Opinions on bias

[Clarity 3,094]

Bias is another perpective of an opinion.

 

Nothing, not even the most factual thing, does not include even a teeny bit of bias.

 

But sometimes, it can irritate the heck out of us...

 

 

This topic is inspired by something a friend told me today. I thought that it was really, really unfair of that (person) to let (person's friend) get away with it while (my friend) takes the blame.

 

Another example is something pony-related that annoys me--fanon stuff. When someone drew a picture of AJ, and the same person (who draws with the same quality) drew Derpy, then the Derpy picture would get more comments/likes/faves/whatnot, simply because the subject is more liked, despite that the quality of the art is the same.

 

So, yes--opinions on bias?

[Champion RD92 8,658]

 

Another example is something pony-related that annoys me--fanon stuff. When someone drew a picture of AJ, and the same person (who draws with the same quality) drew Derpy, then the Derpy picture would get more comments/likes/faves/whatnot, simply because the subject is more liked, despite that the quality of the art is the same.

 

 

Well that just shows that people like Derpy more than Applejack for whatever reason. Obviously the more popular character is gonna have more views, that's just the way it is, unfortunately.

[Shiki 5,855]

My answer is short and sweet:

 

I don't give a buck.

 

People will believe what they want to believe, like what they want to like, and do whatever it is they want to do. Caring is pointless, and accomplishes nothing. Other peoples' opinions do not have an effect on me whatsoever, whether they be biased or no. By not caring, I almost have a sense of respect, as I don't get butthurt and dislike others because of their opinion. It is what it is, it will be what it is, and there's no reason to really discuss of it because of that.

[Circadian 1,273]

Caring is pointless, and accomplishes nothing.

Breathe, breathe in the air

Don't be afraid to care

 

Apathy is a great coping mechanism, for a little while anyway. However, it eventually leads to nihilistic thoughts overwhelming every thought you have and making life generally miserable.

 

It isn't a trip you ever want to go on, believe me. I'd know.

 

YOU GOTTA SHARE, YOU GOTTA CARE

Edited November 12, 2012 by Circadian Rhythms

[Clarity 3,094]

there's no reason to really discuss of it because of that.

Y'know, some people have different opinions--there are people who get irritated by bias. I think it deserves discussion.

 

Well that just shows that people like Derpy more than Applejack for whatever reason. Obviously the more popular character is gonna have more views, that's just the way it is, unfortunately.

Yes, and as I've said, even if the person drew them both the same quality, the Derpy art gets more views--no matter that both these two art are the same. Just an example of bias.

[Champion RD92 8,658]

Well something that kind of annoys me is when people say "*insert pony here* is best pony cause I say so and if you disagree then you're wrong!!!"

 

I suppose that could be considered bias

[Shiki 5,855]

Y'know, some people have different opinions--there are people who get irritated by bias. I think it deserves discussion.

>gets irritated with period being biased towards things

>thinks her thread is worthy of discussion because of her personal opinion

 

 

Seriously, though, this is a perfect example of what I was trying to say. If you simply didn't care, and didn't comment (I'm being hypocritical right now, I know, but it's for a purpose) on my opinion that I posted, then you'd probably be better off. I only enforce my previous post.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Sugar Plum

[Starshine 16,334]

Having a personal opinion is unavoidable. No matter how open-minded or informed, one will always have his/her own opinion, whether s/he tries to enforce it is optional. It's useless to try and push others to see things your way, especially over the internet.

 

 

And the second example looks more like Favouritism instead of bias to me

[Party Cannon 876]

Very interesting topic. I don't know what you necessarily want to accomplish with it, but I guess you simply want more of an analysis of it?

 

If you really wanted to, you can tie it to instinct, like the whole survival of the fittest thing. For example: there are two types of berries in a forest, one kind is delicious, the other brings near instant death. One person may think the poisonous kind is most appealing, while another the other kind. One dies, the other doesn't. The one who doesn't reproduces and influences their offspring and cohorts either directly or indirectly as to what kind is best.

 

Now because us humans are so complex, this instinct if you will is not limited to simply life or death, but rather others things such as art. Of course there is no type of selection per se so there are all kinds of opinions and biases on such matters, while on 'important' things such as food people tend to have much more cohesion.

 

What I stated is simply a theory. Though I have taken a scientific approach to it, it may as well be false. Whatever, all we can do is our best.

[Clarity 3,094]

Having a personal opinion is unavoidable. No matter how open-minded or informed, one will always have his/her own opinion, whether s/he tries to enforce it is optional. It's useless to try and push others to see things your way, especially over the internet.

I wasn't trying to convince people of anything lol, just asking for opinions on bias. Is all.

 

And the second example looks more like Favouritism instead of bias to me

Kind of the same thing, I guess.

 

Very interesting topic. I don't know what you necessarily want to accomplish with it, but I guess you simply want more of an analysis of it?

Yup, just wanted to hear opinions.

[Guest]

Having a personal opinion is unavoidable. No matter how open-minded or informed, one will always have his/her own opinion, whether s/he tries to enforce it is optional. It's useless to try and push others to see things your way, especially over the internet.

 

Having a personal opinion does not equal to being biased though. If you can back up your opinion with arguments and if you aren't ignorant to other views or opinions then you aren't biased.

 

People will believe what they want to believe, like what they want to like, and do whatever it is they want to do. Caring is pointless, and accomplishes nothing. Other peoples' opinions do not have an effect on me whatsoever, whether they be biased or no. By not caring, I almost have a sense of respect, as I don't get butthurt and dislike others because of their opinion. It is what it is, it will be what it is, and there's no reason to really discuss of it because of that.

 

Sorry but to me it sounds like you are being ignorant to other people's opinion almost to the point where I would call it a bias.

Not caring about other people's opinions... where have that ever brought humanity? Well, we would basically all still go around saying that the Earth is flat.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

Opinions are, by their very nature, bias.

 

Therefore I can't really speak a bad opinion about bias unless I want to brand myself as a hypocrite, lol.

 

Everyone has their own opinions. Yeah, there's a lot of stupid opinions out there. However it's really nothing to get bothered about. Unless you want to live a very annoying life.

[Bronium 512]

I quite like the title. Opinions on bias.

 

Actually, some facts aren't biased. I would bring up gravity but since some people say that's sort of biased (how your brain perceives it and what not), I'll bring up math. Math isn't biased. If x + 50 = 70, x is always going to be 20, no matter what personal biases. You might note 20 units as a 30, but the idea remains the same. Facts aren't biased. Of course, you could always twist the facts out of context to suit your needs, but that doesn't make the facts any less true.

 

Onto the next point. Bias is wide spread. And that's not a bad thing per say.

I mean, take reviews, you really can't judge a product on subjective quality (such as enjoyment) without trying it yourself. But we do that all the time. And most of the time, it saves us time. I mean, take Twilight. I'd be willing to bet that most of the forum dislike the novel, but haven't actually read the book (I did, and if you like what I like, don't bother). You judged, using your bias, that the book was awful and thus you didn't read it, saving you time and money. Here, bias was pretty good.

 

It only becomes bad when you can't realized that you're biased and when you twist information to suit your opinion, due to your bias. Like when you like some brony remixes but since you dislike ponies, you say you dislike the music once the pony information comes to light.

[Lupus 127]

A lot of bias is the result of subtle state propaganda, which over time becomes less subtle, more overt and more strident, leading people think that this is the ONLY way to think. News reporters lose all objectivity and for example ONLY question politicians on why they are not being more harsh, more tough, more dictatorial, and never question the underlying assumption that this is how certain isues should be reacted to.

 

Your moron down the bar who is spouting "String them up" rubbish is just someone who has taken in ALL of the propaganda thrown at him, not filtered it through any humanity or sanity, and is spouting the natural end result of the hate we are fed on a daily basis.

[Sky 746]

I think bias opinions are all ignorant but wait isn't that a bias opinion?.....processing....Okay to be honest I sometimes get annoyed when people are only able to see a subject from one side but really we all do it so I can't really complain.

[Betez 1,734]

The whole point of bias is to get you to agree with an opinion or idea. Sometimes it's obvious that it's there, other times it's harder to sense. But like you said, there's always bias.

 

I don't really like it as sometimes it can even be entirely untruthful. But there's nothing that can really be done about it.

[Nothing&NoOne 695]

Opinons are fine as long as you aren't trying to convince that only your opinion is correct.

And it's even worse when people like that say that everyone is intitled to their own opinion, but theirs is better.

 

As it's been said, there's no real solution to it.