Brony hating.. isn't trolling! Not too biased hopefully.

[mabukyuiho 2]

Ok, lets get this straight, I am not what you would call a very big brony if that works out, just one who will watch the show for entertainment and likes it. But, I don't have the need to spread it. I am probably not a brony but I have watched this show, so no trolling on that note please.

 

Full on topic now, hating on bronies isn't trolling. Because, it isn't. Is hating on a food like rotten oranges trolling? No, but that's probably a bad metaphor. Bronies can be hated for reasons such as people are homophobes, but I think the main reason (mentioned before) is the amount of MLP on the internet, even if it isn't relavent. It makes people mad, and I would not call myself a brony. I mean, look at this BS.

 

http://imgur.com/kGQlO

 

See why bronies are hated?  Does a genocide of innocent citizens not matter until there is one pony in it? Is this the loving and tolerating people seek today? 

 

Ok no, I am not a homophobe. Even though I am straight, I don't hate gay people. I don't tolerate gay people, but why should I? They are normal people, so if I tolerate a person, it means I tolerate them for who ever they are. 

 

Also, loads of content is ponified. Any and every song has almost been ponifyed. I know an artist who is famous and hasn't been ponified but I am not going to mention it because I don't want a good artist's work to be messed up and made crappy. 

 

Bronies say "OMG stop trolling us, you homophobe" because someone says " I don't like MLP" and then another guy says "remember, Love and tolerate." Is this a religion people? Are there going to be suicide bombings involving this. Like their suicide cry is "LOVE AND TOLERATE"? It's just like a religion. People try and convert others. I have seen comments on loads of forums saying "I am so proud, I have converted 17 people into bronies." THIS ISN'T A RELIGION! If I go on my minecraftforum account (no pony avatar, I don't approve of this stuff on non pony stuff), I have 2340 mail, most of them consisting of bronies wanting me to watch the show. I say I have, but they want me to go all the way. 

 

No I am not an antibrony. I have friends who I play CoD with who are bronies. They are nice people, but this belief can get out of hand. 

 

I hope this has made some of you people think about why it isn't trolling. Because opinions are opinions, and when someone doesn't like something and it is shoved in their face, they aren't going to like it. I hate Justin Bieber, and if you shove J.B in my face, I will get mad.. 

[khaine21x3 789]

I don't see a problem with it, just remember the quote from Joseph Stalin "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic".

 

I'm ok making fun of any past event that involves genocide, torture or even adding ponies to them.

 

And some bronies doing it =/= all bronies

Edited December 6, 2012 by khaine21x3

[Shiki 5,857]

Your response right now is about 3 times worse than you examples of (annoying) bronies' responses. I am personally hardly into the show, anymore, but no one gives me shit about it. You're probably doing something wrong.

[DusK 1,264]

  On 2012-12-06 at 9:40 PM, mabukyuiho said:

hating on bronies isn't trolling. Because, it isn't.

I am in awe at your reasoning skills and your firm grasp on everything that makes a logical argument what it is.

 

So your argument for why hating bronies is okay is because of their creative interpretations crossing MLP influences with pop culture references, and their inclusion of their own appreciation for the show and/or the fandom in other media? Because if that's the case, that's an extremely closed-minded viewpoint to have.

[Doctor XFizzle 8,670]

I will say I can imagine being annoyed if I kept seeing pictures/memes/art of a show I didn't care for somewhere on each site I usually frequent. However, I feel that pony-related items are mostly contained in pony-catering websites. It's not like you're going on ESPN.com and there's a picture of Lebron James shooting over Applejack. 

 

Also, if something is being pushed in your face, you have the right and option to either stop listening, stop looking, or walking away. Not like you're being tied down against your will.

[Evilshy 5,091]

Just to clarify:

 

Trolling is totally different from what most people say it is these days. It isn't just being a dick, it isn't just disagreeing or arguing with people; trolling is a calculated act specifically made to anger, scare, or otherwise just give someone a lot of negative feelings for comedic purposes. Teasing without the insult, if you will.

The best trolls won't ever insult anyone, because that makes people just ignore you and not take you seriously.

 

Most haters aren't trolls at all, and if they are, they suck at it. In fact, the best people to troll bronies are other bronies, because they know what sets them off.

 

So no, brony haters generally aren't trolls. That doesn't mean that people hate bronies because a few of them only feel emotions for ponies and not other things. Hell, I hardly feel emotions about anything other than my closest friends and family and what happens to them. Yeah, genocide is bad and all, but it isn't personal, so I don't actually feel anything.

Also, the majority of bronies don't kneejerk to calling people trolls just because they don't like the show.

 

 

 

Sorry, but as a former troll, it gets to me when people mislabel trolls and trolling. Where once I was commended for my ability to mess with people, now people say "troll? GTFO, idiot noob".

[DusK 1,264]

I seriously want this guy to link to his Minecraft forum account in this thread, just so we can see what outside media is okay to be referenced when playing Minecraft. I bet his MC skin is some anime or video game character.

[khaine21x3 789]

How about a ponified joke?

 

How many anti brony does it take to change the lightbulb? None. they fear change, even if it can make the world a brighter place.

[H.P. Lance 138]

There's a difference between hating the show and hating bronies. After that, there's an even bigger difference between hating bronies and actually acting on that hate by needlessly hurling abuse at them.

 

It's at this point where trolling is the only definition for the demeaning remarks (and sometimes five-page essays of venom) to which bronies are all too often subjected. Ignoring trolls is always an option, but then, they shouldn't have to - acceptance of someone else's opinion is a life skill that everyone has to pick up on sooner or later, lest they become rightly disliked and mistrusted by the victims. 

 

Problem is that this often turns into a vicious circle, where the more people defend their views (which they are perfectly entitled to, provided they don't attack the troll back in the same way), the more the troll feels totally unjustified and goes on another hater spree.

 

It's an overused example, but I wouldn't listen to a lot of pop music until my limbs started being at stake - but I don't go onto their music videos just to dislike it and leave a damaging comment, and I'm sure the vast majority of the members of this site don't either.

 

Hating the show is purely opinion, which is absolutely fine. Hating bronies because you view them as a whole entity with interests you disagree with is prejudiced, but as long as you keep it to yourself then no-one's going to care. But trolling bronies when they haven't provoked you is narrow-minded, unhealthy and only breeds more hate to widen the gap between people who would otherwise probably get along just fine if they met each other in a bar or some other ordinary, real-life setting.

 

There's enough hatred around as it is. If you don't like the show, press the back button on your browser and get back to supporting the things you're passionate about.     

[~Asuka <3~ 867]

To me, this, as a whole, makes no sense whatsoever. Most pony-related stuff stays in the pony-designated area.

 

Editing pictures that aren't related to ponies is fine. It's made for the community to see and admire, not anyone else. Yet, many people take these pictures, spread them around the Internet, usually with captions such as, "Lol omg look at what this faggot created". What wasn't meant for anyone else is now spread with hatred in mind.

 

Saying "(something) hoof" is just a joke. It's not serious.

 

Not all of us shove out opinions in other's faces. I screw with my friends about it because I know it annoys them. It's not like I'm serious. For other people, I rarely mention ponies. What a few bronies do does not apply to the entire community.

 

I'm sorry if this post was filled with hate/annoyance, but I feel very strongly about this.

[Starshine 16,335]

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JFK getting hit in the face with a pie by Braeburn

 

Oh my sides

 

Yeah, some bronies can be very infuriating and insensitive to anything that isn't related to FiM. A large part of the fandom simply refuse to understand that people can watch be okay with the show without being fanatic about it. Lots of bronies will even say that all haters are automatically trolls, sexist, and insecure about their manliness, without even looking at how themselves can't stop preaching FiM to everyone and everywhere.

 

But that's not means that you can get a jail-free ticket of hating bronies.

 

There is a lot of other fandoms that also tries to 'convert' things, just like bronies ponifying things. You can see sonic fans making TF2 custom skins, or Adventure Time fans converting Touhou characters into their show's style, or even someone mashing Hogwarts and Portal 2 into some unholy abomination. It's the fans way of expressing their love. If you can't really stand seeing things like that, why should you walks in their circle and saying you hate them? It is much easier to ignore all those shitty crossovers and walks along.

 

About stupid Bronies claiming that they are prosecuted for their love of candy horses, we can't really avoid that. In every fandom there will be always the zealot fans that can only see everything in black and white, but that does not mean that every single other fans are also like that. If you hate the entire community because you had a bad experience with a small part of it, then by all means you deserve the counter-hate.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

No offense, but all I see is you pulling the "Political Correctness" card on someone with a valid point. The point of any kind of artistic endeavor like this is to make people think. which the artist has succeeded in. The contrast of mixing ponies in these things really highlights the horror by putting it side to side with something cute and harmless. It strikes emotions in the audience by making them think about what things really happen outside their "happy place".      

 

It's not about "making it matter" it's about showing people it does matter. It's about breaking down the wall and dragging this horrible history kicking and screaming into sun so we don't repeat it.  

Edited December 7, 2012 by Shoboni

[Discovery Dream 592]

I stand up for the mature anti-bronies. I go against my own community if I feel that they are getting a bit out of hand, and it usually works. Once upon a time in the magical land of Youtube, for example, an anti-brony stated his honest and maturely worded opinion on a video. Suddenly, bronies are spamming him and calling him a "troll", a "faggot", and that he had a "piece of shit opinion", Naturally, I stood up for this innocent user. All worked out well.

 

So I like both bronies and anti-bronies. They all deserve a chance, so why call someone a troll if they're being honest?

[Dusty Soul 2,613]

Most pony stuff stays in pony sites and such, though there are some that do link pages and such that have stuff to do with MLP.  Here's what I get from what you said though, I get that if a fandom creates things that go along with pop-culture its automatically bad.  So your saying two unrelated things can't be brought together.  It's called cross-overs and hey, some people hate them some people don't, its a personal preference.  

[Paleopony 707]

Some haters simply hate bronies. Those are not considered trolls because they don't go out of their way to spread their hatred on the internet. Other haters do go out of their way to make bronies upset and post hateful comments on YouTube and other sites. They are trolls by definition.

[Evil Pink One 13,517]

There's a difference between trolls and haters.............

[Evil Pink One 13,517]

  On 2012-12-06 at 9:40 PM, mabukyuiho said:

See why bronies are hated?  Does a genocide of innocent citizens not matter until there is one pony in it? Is this the loving and tolerating people seek today? 

 

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The picture.. It's actually kinda effective

I think that's not the goal of the article... Alot of bronies have goals... That are usually misunderstood.... That's why it's hard to remove hate... Because misunderatanding exist  and a lot of "elements of disharmony" 

[EpicEnergy 23,238]

I think that some haters are trolls, but not all. That isn't to say that trolling is better or worse than hating, both are morally reprehensible actions.

The problem I have with this thread is that what is the goal of attempting to differentiate the two? It seems as if it's an attempt to make haters look better than they really are. I doubt that's the actual goal, but it does come across that way when you look at it. Perhaps it's for technical clarity though, I'm not sure.

[Splashee 28,577]

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