Black Licorice 58 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 Yeah, so somepony on a different forum who wanted to help record this song told me that this song was demeaning to bronies. Kepp in mind, this was originally not supposed to have anything to do with MLP. But I'm wondering, if I were to record it as is, would it be deemed offensive to bronies at all? Here's the lyrics: Outcasts Everyone hates usWe're different from themTo them, we're the epitome of disgustIt's all because of themIt's all a mystery to meWe always get the blameWhy can't we live in harmonyAnd not in shameWhy can't everyone seeWe're all the sameWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWith nobody's loveWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe always get the shoveWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe're all pushed awayWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSThe hate won't go awayTime to go back into the rainWhile we try to find our placeWe can deal with the painEven when it's in our faceIt's all a mystery to meWe always get the blameWhy can't we live in harmonyAnd not in shameWhy can't everyone seeWe're all the sameWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWith nobody's loveWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe always get the blameWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe're all pushed awayWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSThe hate won't go awayWe always get beaten downIt's not over for usWe're the laughingstocks of our hometownsIt's not over for usBut if we all stand togetherIt's not over for usThings will get betterWe're different from them...We're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWith nobody's loveWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe always get the shoveWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSWe're all pushed awayWe're the OUTCASTS, OUTCASTSThe hate won't go awayEverything will get better(WE'LL FIND OUR PLACE!)We'll have something to praise(WE'LL FIND OUR PLACE!)We'll all stand together(WE'LL FIND OUR PLACE!)WE'LL FIND OUR PLACE! Just let me know if it would be harsh to bronies at all, because if it is, I'm gonna change the lyrics. 2 Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3hzb0t 43 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 Nonsense, these lyrics do not offend me at all! I don't really see anything that I would even consider classifying as offensive. I like these lyrics. :3 4 Twily's favourite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blades Shadow 444 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 I don't think it's offensive... But then again, that's just me... And usually what I say doesn't matter, so it could be... (At least it isn't offensive to me) "Live and die by the blade." - Talon, The Blade's Shadow (League Of Legends) Temporary signature by DokiLoki (I hope I spelled that right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Changeling 132 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 (edited) I am disgusted. You are expressing yourself in away I do not approve of. There for I feel obligated to make you feel bad although you are not hurting anybody (in all seriousness, I like the lyrics, but im not a big lyrics guy. I will probably get a better understanding of it once the tone and beat of the song all in place). (P.s.- I was just kidding about the first part) Edited July 9, 2013 by Mr. Changeling 2 Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 (edited) I don't see how anyone could possibly get offended by song lyrics, song titles, album artwork, etc. Like, if you don't it like then just ignore it and get on with your day. Edited July 9, 2013 by AtDawnTheySquee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Licorice 58 July 9, 2013 Author Share July 9, 2013 The guy threatened to back out unless I changed the lyrics saying that I was practically ASKING for death threats, just to give a little more info. Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discount_Flunky 75 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 I'm missing how the lyrics are connected to MLP at all. This song isn't offensive to anything really, it's just someone singing about being an outcast. By the way, what genre is this supposed to be. The guy threatened to back out unless I changed the lyrics saying that I was practically ASKING for death threats, just to give a little more info. Death threats for WHAT. Seriously there's nothing offensive about the song. And it doesn't mention MLP. You cam make the case it's referencing Bronies, but you could make that case for any group that is not main stream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Licorice 58 July 9, 2013 Author Share July 9, 2013 (edited) This is gothic rock music, the original song was a mix of "One-X" by Three Days Grace and "Hollow Life" by KoRn. Yeah, I kind of did this after some fans were complaining about AliTwi and EqG, etc. and me feeling like I was caught in the middle and as an "outcast", hence the title. As for the death threats, he thought that some lyrics were dark and I'd get death threats from bronies claiming I'd be as bad as the author of Cupcakes, I was way too harsh on bronies, etc. Anyway, he also flipped s*** when I told him that there mods on a forum I posted the lyrics on didn't give me any trouble about it. Edited July 9, 2013 by Black Licorice Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discount_Flunky 75 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 This is gothic rock music, the original song was a mix of "One-X" by Three Days Grace and "Hollow Life" by KoRn. Yeah, I kind of did this after some fans were complaining about AliTwi and EqG, etc. and me feeling like I was caught in the middle and as an "outcast", hence the title. Cool I guessed the genre right then. When a song has short quick sentences like that it's usually a heavy metal like song. (Or Rap) What is this person your arguing with role in the recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Akemi 974 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 Um. No. They're just song lyrics that have nothing to do with MLP or the fandom. If anyone got offended by it, they are looking too deeply into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Licorice 58 July 9, 2013 Author Share July 9, 2013 His name is Kodokuna, and I don't believe he's on this forum. I PM'd him after he said his voice was too deep but I told him it was fine and asked if he was still interested. He said yes, but wanted to see the lyrics first, so I showed him. When in chat, he privately told me the lyrics were too dark and that I should change them to a more lighter tone. After I tried to defend the lyrics, things started going downhill. Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discount_Flunky 75 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 His name is Kodokuna, and I don't believe he's on this forum. I PM'd him after he said his voice was too deep but I told him it was fine and asked if he was still interested. He said yes, but wanted to see the lyrics first, so I showed him. When in chat, he privately told me the lyrics were too dark and that I should change them to a more lighter tone. After I tried to defend the lyrics, things started going downhill. So your making a song that is inspired by Korn and he says the lyrics are too dark? By Korn standards your lyrics are very light, and Korn is hardly dark compared to many other bands. I think this guy is barking up the wrong tree with looking to sing songs like this when he can't take a song this tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Bot 183 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 Nonsense, that isn't offensive to me by any definition of the term. I feel that the same could be said for most other bronies. I don't like you. My OC's thus far: Feverfew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetDemon 31 July 9, 2013 Share July 9, 2013 This doesn't sound offensive at all, but THIS must be the deleted song from The Lion King, "No One Cares"! I thought it could have been written in if Timon and Pumbaa were originally villains in the movie and thought about their actions. Or maybe it is the song of the Main Villain Six! "I am your princess now, and you will be loyal to me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Licorice 58 July 10, 2013 Author Share July 10, 2013 This doesn't sound offensive at all, but THIS must be the deleted song from The Lion King, "No One Cares"! I thought it could have been written in if Timon and Pumbaa were originally villains in the movie and thought about their actions. Or maybe it is the song of the Main Villain Six! Oh my God, why didn't I think of it that way? xD Anyway, @Discount_Flunky, I was originally going to ask him what he had expected from a song called "Outcasts", but didn't wanna tick him off more. I also had to tell Keypassion, the guy doing the instrumentals, that we might have to do something lighter if we had to change the lyrics. He wasn't exactly pleased with the news, either. Kodo was also a bit teed off when I told him this is one of my cleanest songs. I also might get more controversy for what I was thinking for the cover art of my debut album. Not gonna go into details about that. Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blique 211 July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Just my thoughts on the matter...People generally like being special, even if it's in a "negative" way like being an outcast, or alternatively, "someone who stands out from the masses". It's common knowledge that the majority isn't always right, and "outcast" is sometimes just another way of saying "the only one who is right". The song lyrics clearly convey that the "outcasts" are the ones who are morally right and good, heroes even, so I don't see why any bronies would take offense to it. If anything, maybe someone would think bronies are exaggerating their troubles, but that's not even an offensive thing, so it doesn't matter. How is this song not "clean" anyway? It's an expression of emotion - it's not even vowing revenge on society or threatening anyone; it's just a personal statement. 1 I make digital art, traditional art, scarves, and crafts. http://mlpforums.com/topic/65309-bliques-ponies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discount_Flunky 75 July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Oh my God, why didn't I think of it that way? xD Anyway, @Discount_Flunky, I was originally going to ask him what he had expected from a song called "Outcasts", but didn't wanna tick him off more. I also had to tell Keypassion, the guy doing the instrumentals, that we might have to do something lighter if we had to change the lyrics. He wasn't exactly pleased with the news, either. Kodo was also a bit teed off when I told him this is one of my cleanest songs. I also might get more controversy for what I was thinking for the cover art of my debut album. Not gonna go into details about that. Ya I wouldn't work with this guy. He doesn't fit your style. Did you want him to sing the whole thing or was he doing a backup/duet type thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Dude, I see no way that is dark in the offensive sense, it's just a expression of how you feel for being forsaken by people for being different. It reminds me of a more punk spin on "Long Way from Equestria" to tell the truth. It's not dark, like at all(I think I've written darker at least once), in fact I'm going to link two Christian Rock songs that can be seen as much darker to demonstrate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ20zy7qQZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-RHFJ2Vmg: "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,488 July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 How the heck could that be offensive? It's not even specific. The lyrics could apply to bronies, furries, trekies, otaku, punks, skinheads, homeless, gangbangers, etc. It's about as offensive as Pink's 'Raise your Glass', except your lyrics make slightly more sense and don't rely on last year's memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proton 565 July 10, 2013 Share July 10, 2013 Umm... Offensive? Wut? I don't find those lyrics offensive to bronies, and even worse, offensive at all. They're perfect just like that. The guy who told you to change them is most likely a stupid person or a troll. "Walk always in shadows, so that you will see your foes before they see you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Licorice 58 July 10, 2013 Author Share July 10, 2013 Ya I wouldn't work with this guy. He doesn't fit your style. Did you want him to sing the whole thing or was he doing a backup/duet type thing? I was gonna do a group song, almost like when those artists came together for Haiti. If anybody wants to get involved in this, just PM me and I can hook you up. At least I'll have an actual REASON to ditch him instead of getting into a huge fight with him. Don't give up on your dreams, keep sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevenomous 59 August 4, 2013 Share August 4, 2013 Just like everyone else, I'm gonna tell you those lyrics aren't in any way offensive. If that guy Koto... kono... whatever, thinks they are so bad then why bother having him be a part of it? Clearly he's not going to be okay with them and there's no reason for the lyrics to be changed. Also, I'm wondering when this song will be done, since I am gonna be a part of it, right? :3 1 Time Warp:http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/time-warp-r3205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valormos 262 August 5, 2013 Share August 5, 2013 There is no way this could be offensive to any brony I say this would be awsome to hear it as a song this is pretty coool dude awsome §*ADVENTURE TIME*§ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chain Combo 135 August 5, 2013 Share August 5, 2013 The only thing about this song that would make me thing about mlp is the word harmony, and that's only because I'm just so used it being associated with mlp. I think the song could easily represent any group with haters. Also the fact it's trying to spread a positive message makes it even less offensive, which it wasn't to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notdog1996 315 August 5, 2013 Share August 5, 2013 I liked those lyrics. Don't change them please . In fact, I would love to listen to the final product. Also, this could be applied to pretty much any group society doesn't view as ''normal''. INTJ Introvert(56%) iNtuitive(12%) Thinking(75%) Judging(1%) You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (56%) You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%) You have distinctive preference of Thinking over Feeling (75%) You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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