ChoroChii 284 January 9, 2014 Share January 9, 2014 It's perfectly right for them to held responsible for it, letting them get away with pushing someone that far would be all kinds of wrong and the exact opposite of justice. And what you just described IS cyber-bullying. It's a more extreme form, yes: but it's still cyber bullying. I once had someone try to DOX me(and fail miserably because there's like a dozen people with my name in IOWA alone) just for posting(clean) furry and Sonic art somewhere. That's how bad this kind of fandom hatred can get. I just can't agree with something like that. I don't think it's right to allow them to get away with it but I simply can't agree with treating them like murderers. Didn't say it wasn't? I said extreme cases like that make regular cyber bullying look like nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 January 9, 2014 Share January 9, 2014 (edited) I just can't agree with something like that. I don't think it's right to allow them to get away with it but I simply can't agree with treating them like murderers. Didn't say it wasn't? I said extreme cases like that make regular cyber bullying look like nothing. and I can't agree with that, if you goad someone into killing themselves you're no better than a murderer. You should at least get a few years in the clink to pay for it Edited January 9, 2014 by Shoboni 1 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deesinn 393 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 (edited) and I can't agree with that, if you goad someone into killing themselves you're no better than a murderer. You should at least get a few years in the clink to pay for it Nah I disagree, you choose how to react to somebody, so in the end they can't be held responcible. It really comes down to self-esteem and confidence more than anything. If your opinion of yourself is more valuable than other peoples opinions about yourself, this probably wont even be an issue. Luckily, that can be changed with some work. Edited January 10, 2014 by Deesinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootaloo Is Best Filly 578 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 And people wonder why I try to keep my love for My Little Pony secret from some people. The people online are cruel , most people I meet in real life don't care about me being a Brony. They make a few jokes or they don't care. Or they simply don't say anything. I try my hardest not to put up anything Brony related on other sites just for this sole purpose. The people online can be very , very, vicious. People hate the stuff they can't understand. I am really sorta surprised that people hate us so much that they would say half the things that they say to Bronies. Wishing death on anyone is a bad thing, especially for people who haven't done anything to you. 1 Facebook: Josh B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 (edited) Nah I disagree, you choose how to react to somebody, so in the end they can't be held responcible. It really comes down to self-esteem and confidence more than anything. If your opinion of yourself is more valuable than other peoples opinions about yourself, this probably wont even be an issue. Luckily, that can be changed with some work. You obviously don't know much about human psychology and the possible effects of peer-pressure and repeated mental abuse. I've seen the most confident and self-assured people you can imagine reach a breaking point and do stupid shit out of emotional overload. I'm normally not one to use such terms, but that attitude is plain-old victim blaming, especially in cases where the target did nothing to deserve it. Edited January 10, 2014 by Shoboni 1 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparklejack 9 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 I was surfing on facebook, and I found a group named "Bronies must be stopped." someone said we should kill ourselves and it's good if us "perverts" are dead. And this is coming from a MOTHER. I've also seen other cyber bullying for other things not just liking a certain show. I don't even understand why we have to be so cruel to each other. Then I got called a lot of words by three people in this group JUST because I had said "If you don't like it, Just ignore it." I am honestly sick to my stomach because of so many people being bullied... I have been for years. I've been through stuff like that before.. The fact that ANYONE would hate a certain religion, or skin color is ridiculous. It's just appalling.. I need hugs ;_; But with all of this, I want to say, I love you my new family of Bronies. I bet I could tell anypony anything here, and I would never get judged. I guess I could call a lot of us on this site my family. We don't judge each other, We know the ways of the Elements of Harmony, we belong to them and they belong to us. I love you guys. Thanks for being there when others weren't. thats life for us haters gonna hate but don't listen to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomk 20,663 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 It's a shame that there's no room for people to be themselves. To exercise those things that make ourselves authentic is what being human is all about. To conform to a societal standard would make us all the same. We'd be robots. I don't disagree with norms, but there comes a point where it goes too far. When it comes to pass that anyone would defy a societal norm and be belittled for it is what I hate most about it. It's one thing to disagree. It's great when people can agree to disagree. What irks me most is when someone is guilty of bigotry. There are approximately 7 billion people on this planet. In my opinion, no opinion is fully correct. Not even that opinion. But you can't possibly make everyone see things the way you do. I've had to toughen up after battling suicidal thoughts for a couple years and move past the hurtful things that were said to me when I was younger. I think we belittle those who are easy to pick on in order to make ourselves feel bigger than we really are. This community, for example, is something that goes against what has been accepted as normal. I think people pick on us in order to make themselves feel bigger or tougher so that their own insecurities are diminished because they compare those insecurities to us, a fanbase of something that is different. They probably think that they'd feel like a total idiot for enjoying ponies so they bash that in order to reaffirm that there really isn't something wrong with themselves after all. It sucks being talked down to about something you enjoy. But you can't let that mess with you. If you let people get under your skin, you're letting them win. That's just a fancified way of saying "Don't feed the trolls." But really, don't feel bad for those who tell you that you're less of a person for enjoying ponies. Because you've got thousands of others right here who disagree with that, and we'll back you up all the way 1 I refuse to let go until you're impressed. I refuse to let go until I'm depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimCW 658 January 10, 2014 Share January 10, 2014 To conform to a societal standard would make us all the same. Problem is, society enforces the "norms" They do it by forcing anyone out of their set "norms" onto medications, or ousting them as awkward and just odd. They don't want individuals, they want a mass hive mind that acts similar unto itself. The following problem of that is however, that this is where society is falling apart. Any look deep into the past, and anyone who had much to do with making history was not a "norm" follower. Often they were the people that were so out of the way abnormal, that they would be imprisoned for it. So while its not new, it is becoming harder to be yourself with all the "diagnoses" and drugs they have out there. As well as the inability for kids to be kids anymore, they too are now set to a standard where any child not intent and content with studying, is the new freak show and must be tamed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Sir Hugsalot 9,297 January 10, 2014 Administrator Share January 10, 2014 I was surfing on facebook, and I found a group named "Bronies must be stopped." someone said we should kill ourselves and it's good if us "perverts" are dead. And this is coming from a MOTHER. I've also seen other cyber bullying for other things not just liking a certain show. I don't even understand why we have to be so cruel to each other. Then I got called a lot of words by three people in this group JUST because I had said "If you don't like it, Just ignore it." I am honestly sick to my stomach because of so many people being bullied... I have been for years. I've been through stuff like that before.. The fact that ANYONE would hate a certain religion, or skin color is ridiculous. It's just appalling.. I need hugs ;_; But with all of this, I want to say, I love you my new family of Bronies. I bet I could tell anypony anything here, and I would never get judged. I guess I could call a lot of us on this site my family. We don't judge each other, We know the ways of the Elements of Harmony, we belong to them and they belong to us. I love you guys. Thanks for being there when others weren't. People tend to hate what they do not understand and it really does not suprise me that such group exists. But know this. Most people just don't care about bronies. They don't hate them. They may consider us weird but that's the end of their opinion. Haters may look like they are numerous group of people but they are few in numbers. Few people hate bronies so much that they stop at nothing to express that. They are just very loud and use "canterlock" all the time so it appears like they are much bigger in numbers. Just ignore those jerks and carry on. Some of them might even be trolls. Oh, and *HUG* 2 As one person I cannot change the world, but I can change the world of one person. Art, profile picture and signature by one and only Silky <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deesinn 393 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 You obviously don't know much about human psychology and the possible effects of peer-pressure and repeated mental abuse. I've seen the most confident and self-assured people you can imagine reach a breaking point and do stupid shit out of emotional overload. I'm normally not one to use such terms, but that attitude is plain-old victim blaming, especially in cases where the target did nothing to deserve it. It's true, I aint no psychologist, and I'm just articulating my own experiences, but I have been on both sides of the coin. I did go to high school, I was bullied, and I went through the whole "It's not fair, it hurts, make it stop, why does everybody hate me, I'm worthless" thing. But I also brought myself up, and over the years I worked really hard at becoming a better man, becoming social, confident, and unyielding. Desirable. Through this, I have learned that people who appear confident and self-assured, usually don't get bullied. In fact, they normally lead the social circle, and their peers generally look up to them, or they in-fact themselves are bullying. Sometimes they are considered the weirdos or whatever, but that's because they usually challenge societal "norms" or "rules". They don't take being messed around with and will fight back if need be. Generally, that is. There are plenty of exceptions, but the way you react to somebody directly correlates with your level of self-esteem, the most important thing you have on the planet regarding survival and social status. People with low self-esteem get offended easily, people with high self-esteem don't. People with low self-esteem graciously accept compliments, while people with high self-esteem will thank somebody, but not act as if it was a sign of approval. If self-esteem is low, you are more prone to believing other peoples opinions about yourself and consequently, feeling negative emotions over it. If your self-esteem is high, than the opposite is usually true. Confident people most of the time have great social lives, a great sex life, and they're happy. The best way to beat bullying, is to fight bullies, because they literally go out of their way to disrespect you and usually start the confrontation (Which makes them look dumb in the first place, why do you care?). It's one thing to walk away, and I say do this if nobody is physically threatening you, but tell them that you aren't going to take their abuse before you turn your back and start walking. If they get physical, put em up and fight I say, even if you lose. Know what I mean *blows a kiss* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 (edited) It's true, I aint no psychologist, and I'm just articulating my own experiences, but I have been on both sides of the coin. I did go to high school, I was bullied, and I went through the whole "It's not fair, it hurts, make it stop, why does everybody hate me, I'm worthless" thing. But I also brought myself up, and over the years I worked really hard at becoming a better man, becoming social, confident, and unyielding. Desirable. Through this, I have learned that people who appear confident and self-assured, usually don't get bullied. In fact, they normally lead the social circle, and their peers generally look up to them, or they in-fact themselves are bullying. Sometimes they are considered the weirdos or whatever, but that's because they usually challenge societal "norms" or "rules". They don't take being messed around with and will fight back if need be. Generally, that is. There are plenty of exceptions, but the way you react to somebody directly correlates with your level of self-esteem, the most important thing you have on the planet regarding survival and social status. People with low self-esteem get offended easily, people with high self-esteem don't. People with low self-esteem graciously accept compliments, while people with high self-esteem will thank somebody, but not act as if it was a sign of approval. If self-esteem is low, you are more prone to believing other peoples opinions about yourself and consequently, feeling negative emotions over it. If your self-esteem is high, than the opposite is usually true. Confident people most of the time have great social lives, a great sex life, and they're happy. The best way to beat bullying, is to fight bullies, because they literally go out of their way to disrespect you and usually start the confrontation (Which makes them look dumb in the first place, why do you care?). It's one thing to walk away, and I say do this if nobody is physically threatening you, but tell them that you aren't going to take their abuse before you turn your back and start walking. If they get physical, put em up and fight I say, even if you lose. Know what I mean *blows a kiss* "both sides of the coin" I'd hazard to say there's certain side of that coin you should NEVER be on. There's times to fight and be an asshole, but only towards people that really deserve it and not to be knocked down a peg because they won't stop belittling others and making an ass of themselves. I'd argue that finally coming off the bottom step of the latter just to act the people that once bullied you is hypocritical and shallow. It also continues the cycle that causes the bullying in the first place. Also, I fail to see what a sex life has to do with anything(unless you consider it a part of social life) because not everyone wants to screw everything in sight. In fact, studies have shown that people that jump into bed with everyone tend to be worse off emotionally(probably because they're using it to compensate for other insecurities). I'm not saying it's wrong, but I am saying banging everything in sight is kind of shallow. I'd also argue that walking away if you can makes you the bigger man because it shows the strength to not resort to violence when it's not needed. As nice as it is to entertain the thought of wiping that smirk off their face, violence should only be an option when lives are at stake. So I kind of a agree with you to an extent here. The point is, don't pull the "bullying is okay because being hurt by it means someone is weak" card. Damn, I think I just went on a rant. Although, I do like your chill attitude and point of shrugging of assholes and living your life. Edited January 11, 2014 by Shoboni "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 Maybe someone should report the group, that'll probably do it. And one last thing and this is the ten trillionth time I've done this From a mother? 1 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWg-TtBRMfqketa1ELyKGg Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/menelik-david-kenneth-cannady 2nd SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thunder-dash-alternative/tracks Pony.fm: https://pony.fm/thunder-dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoniesPlease 365 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 I feel sorry for the children of these mothers. Whilst they slander an innocent group of people over the internet the are neglecting their kids. Fascists, all of them. Let the scum do their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightPie 11 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 That's just stupid. If someone doesn't like bronies, they should just ignore us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deesinn 393 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 "both sides of the coin" I'd hazard to say there's certain side of that coin you should NEVER be on. There's times to fight and be an asshole, but only towards people that really deserve it and not to be knocked down a peg because they won't stop belittling others and making an ass of themselves. I'd argue that finally coming off the bottom step of the latter just to act the people that once bullied you is hypocritical and shallow. It also continues the cycle that causes the bullying in the first place. Also, I fail to see what a sex life has to do with anything(unless you consider it a part of social life) because not everyone wants to screw everything in sight. In fact, studies have shown that people that jump into bed with everyone tend to be worse off emotionally(probably because they're using it to compensate for other insecurities). I'm not saying it's wrong, but I am saying banging everything in sight is kind of shallow. I'd also argue that walking away if you can makes you the bigger man because it shows the strength to not resort to violence when it's not needed. As nice as it is to entertain the thought of wiping that smirk off their face, violence should only be an option when lives are at stake. So I kind of a agree with you to an extent here. The point is, don't pull the "bullying is okay because being hurt by it means someone is weak" card. Damn, I think I just went on a rant. Although, I do like your chill attitude and point of shrugging of assholes and living your life. I love you man! Gimme a hug! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
)O( Scarlet )O( 1,259 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 (edited) also please change the title to i am really sad guys the guise part is making my brain crawl ^ A bit late for this I know, and I'm sorry if this is seen as backseat moderating, but I know most of you do speak English and do go to school, so I know you know how to spell things propperly, please read over this rule: Write in proper, legible English. You are on an English-speaking forum run by English-speaking staff. We cannot moderate content that we cannot read, and "but you can always use Google Translate!" is not an excuse. In addition, while we do not require perfect grammar, you should at least try to punctuate, capitalize, space, and spell properly. Every time I see terrible spelling like that (not the rule but the thread tittle and a few posts here), I just want to punch someone Edited January 11, 2014 by Night Song (Avatar art done by and Signature art done by @Guardian Braveheart (Aka my little brother), Avatar and Signature done by myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Electricity 729 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 -snip- I don't see the problem, it was in good fun, and still gives me lols every time I see it XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
)O( Scarlet )O( 1,259 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 I don't see the problem, it was in good fun, and still gives me lols every time I see it XD My mum used to be a primary school teacher, so she's quite the grammar Nazi and it's safe to say I'm pretty much the same 1 (Avatar art done by and Signature art done by @Guardian Braveheart (Aka my little brother), Avatar and Signature done by myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Electricity 729 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 (edited) My mum used to be a primary school teacher, so she's quite the grammar Nazi and it's safe to say I'm pretty much the same It looks like your avatar is out to get me. Edited January 11, 2014 by Static Electricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 I love you man! Gimme a hug! I have no idea if we're using sarcasm here of actually agree with each other, but what the hell: 1 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgement 445 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 "My little anti-brony: Trolling is magic". That is what the title of this thread should be. Why should we even bother with them. It is like I said before, they are just doing it for sick kicks. I personally think that they are just doing it because they have nothing better to do. I saw a MLP YTP on youtube and then there was just a comment saying: "so it was a fan thing?! Brony FAAAAGS!" SERIOUSLY?! So here you have some guy that is just watching YTPs of MLP so he has an excuse that he doesn't watch the show and he can still make fun of it. Don't make me laugh! See all the pony videos with dislikes?! Yeah! That is because some low-life went and wasted 3 hours of his time searching for any pony-related video on youtube so he can spam "Gay Fag Brony!" and hit dislike. They waste HOURS of their pathetic lives on US. I feel honored. They complain that "This video wasted a minute of my life" on videos they hate, but yet they are perfectly fine with wasting HOURS upon HOURS on US. Now tell me who the REAL "Gay Fags" are! Good Day! 1 Tom V.S. Boulder: Who will win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Chaos~ 3,967 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 There will always be hate around, that's the awful truth, the best thing we can do as human beings is treat each other with respect and kindness, and hope it spreads. Every fandom will be hated on, no matter which one, you just have to enjoy it and ignore the hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bashscript 10 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 You know how I combat haters... I look them straight in the eyes and say, "Why you mad bro, didn't you know, Friendship its Magic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamy Arty 6,252 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 This thread appears to be related to the My Little Pony franchise and/or the Bronydom in general. Thus, it has been sentenced to Sugarcube Corner. This is an automatically generated message, by the way. Kyoshi made this ^^ Come join us on Equestria.tv on Fridays at 6 PM Eastern for our weekly movie nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blades Shadow 444 January 11, 2014 Share January 11, 2014 (edited) Wow.... This is, kinda disappointing. It just proves that there are actually people who have such worthless lives that they think they need to spend all their time hating us for no better reason than that they feel like it. Edited January 11, 2014 by Blazing Hoof "Live and die by the blade." - Talon, The Blade's Shadow (League Of Legends) Temporary signature by DokiLoki (I hope I spelled that right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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