Brohoofs in Cloudsdale Colosseum

[DubWolf 17,386]

I say that brohooves shouldn't count in the cloudsdale colosseum, and that we add a second statistic to each topic, which tells you how many brohooves you have earned in that topic. That way you can still keep count of all the brohooves you've earned there, and people in other forums don't see it as unfair that that forum is very liberal with brohooves.

 

It works good for the post count issue.

Edited May 18, 2014 by Super80 Wolf

[ghostfacekiller39 23,860]

 

Read Wolfie's post, he worded it much better than I did.

Then you'll get it.

 

"Brohooves themselves have no bearing on your worth or popularity as a member, and are simply a fun but ultimately meaningless statistic. They are intended to express gratitude, agreement, or similar sentiments without one having to make a post. Perfect for situations where you can't think of something like that to say or can't meet the section's character minimum requirement when doing so. If you want more, just get out there and start posting in topics that interest you, but please don't create meaningless threads for the sole purpose of farming them."

 

"Intended to express gratitude, agreement, or similar sentiments without one having to make a post."

The problem is, though, it isn't hard to make a post in that topic. I can run over there right now, slap down a number, quote someone to show agreement with just a couple letters, and I'm done How is that a problem? You have no character limit to reach, honestly. You can just do as I'm about to do here:

 

 

 

Or how about we keep brohoofs as an option to show agreement/approval/thumbs up, but just don't have the accumulation of them counted anywhere on a person's profile. Boom, problem solved.

^this

 

And there's absolutely 0 effort being put in there

[DubWolf 17,386]

*woop*

 

Check our my last statement . It's analogous to the post count in the cloudsdale forum.

[equerio 6,153]

So you're trying to say that the fact we can just quote someone's post prevents us from brohoofing it as a sign of gratitude or agreement? That just doesn't make sense...

[ghostfacekiller39 23,860]

*woop*

 

Check our my last statement . It's analogous to the post count in the cloudsdale forum.

Yeahh - I was actually about to try and change my quote in my other post from XFizzle's to yours, but I couldn't figure out how

So you're trying to say that the fact we can just quote someone's post prevents us from brohoofing it as a sign of gratitude or agreement? That just doesn't make sense...

No - I'm saying that it's unfair to every other forum that A.) Posts don't count in there B.) There's no character minimum and C.) The topics there are mostly nonsense/games of the sort. People can take advantage of all 3 of those things in order to make themselves look better in comparison to other members, and that's my problem with it. I'm simply providing an alternative to brohoofs when I say that - of course, I find Wolf and XFizzle's solutions to be a good idea as well

[Pastel 7,630]

I say that brohooves shouldn't count in the cloudsdale colosseum, and that we add a second statistic to each topic, which tells you how many brohooves you have earned in that topic. That way you can still keep count of all the brohooves you've earned there, and people in other forums don't see it as unfair that that forum is very liberal with brohooves.

 

It works good for the post count issue.

Not sure the administrators/poniverse staff can do that.

[DubWolf 17,386]

Not sure the administrators/poniverse staff can do that.

Are they not able to do it or are they not authorized to do that?

 

Wouldn't be a surprise; the suggestion to unfollow status updates like on Facebook couldn't be implemented.

[equerio 6,153]

No - I'm saying that it's unfair to every other forum that A.) Posts don't count in there B.) There's no character minimum and C.) The topics there are mostly nonsense/games of the sort. People can take advantage of all 3 of those things in order to make themselves look better in comparison to other members, and that's my problem with it. I'm simply providing an alternative to brohoofs when I say that - of course, I find Wolf and XFizzle's solutions to be a good idea as well

I've said this already, and I will say it again. I post there every day. I read every post I missed. And I am yet to see a member who went there just to earn brohoofs and "make them look better in comparison to other members".

And these "nonsense" stuff you keep talking about don't get brohoofs. Except if it's some kind of a "creative" nonsense, if you know what I mean.

Edited May 18, 2014 by equerio

[Pastel 7,630]

Are they not able to do it or are they not authorized to do that?

 

Wouldn't be a surprise; the suggestion to unfollow status updates like on Facebook couldn't be implemented.

Not able to do that (IP Board fails) Edited May 18, 2014 by Blobulle

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

I've said it countless times, there's no character limit and things that are nonsensical are often relegated there. Just because brohoofs don't matter to me doesn't necessarily mean they don't matter to anyone on here - some people like their brohoofs, and feel they should be earned, and I find that to be a perfectly understandable sentiment.

 

 

 

 

Just because it's likeable doesn't mean you have to give it a brohoof, though - again, there's no character limit in the Colosseum. If you find something to be funny, you could easily quote it and say "lol." It isn't fair to the other sections that posts don't count in that section when brohoofs do, given the nature of that section.

But according to the very staff of this website, brohoofs are nothing more than a variant on the facebook like. Calling them somthing to be earned is rather silly, and more people see them as a variant on the like than a defining characteristic of a forum poster. Just because you like it, doesn't mean you have to quote it and say lol.

 

Personally, I'd just do away with the whole counter as it seems rather unnessicary and can be used as a tool to further elitism.

[Flutter's lover <3 8,206]

 If you find something to be funny, you could easily quote it and say "lol." 

 

That creates excess spam and is off topic. Not to mention it could be from 4-5 pages ago. Giving the post a brohoof is just easier, and cuts down on spam and off topicness. I'm not gonna quote a post just to say "lol" that seems silly, I'd sooner brohoof it.

 

Honestly, I don't know why people are making a big deal out of these "brohooves" or "likes".  It's kinda silly to be making such a big deal out of some silly counter on your profile. It's kinda like kids arguing over who has the most Legos, and what they've built with them.  It's like saying "I've got so many brohoofs" Who cares? No one cares.

[Banul 3,831]

Limiting the post count makes sense to me because you get something out of it (The little symbol under the avatar). But brohoofs don't get you anything. I mean, sure, the amount of brohoofs you have shows up on your profile page, but does anyone really care?

[Creamy Arty 6,252]

Do you feel more respect for the member with 2000 posts and 5000 brohooves,or the member with 18 posts and 4000 brohooves?

Neither. I only feel respect or not for the member based on his character, and I'll judge the worth of one of his posts by its content, not how many brohooves he's amassed for posts preceding. There are a number of people here I've befriended with low counts of both, or even more posts than they have brohooves. Even so, some of them are of more worth to this place from my perspective than several people with posts and brohooves numbering in the thousands. At the end of the day, it's a worthless statistic.

 

 

As has been suggested before, brohoofs are intended for posts that one agrees with or simply likes (although I've been known to brohoof posts I disagree with if it's well-constructed). Brohoofing or "liking" a post from either of those boards is perfectly valid. There may not be much there in the way of intelligent discussion, but the humor and wit that often get posted in Cloudsdale bring joy and entertainment to a lot of people. Posts that do that are no less deserving than posts from a serious discussion anywhere else. Simply because a thread is destined for the Lounge or Games doesn't mean that there's no quality to it. To a lot of people the levity and nonsensical nature of those boards improve the quality of the forum's atmosphere and their relationships with other people. By their measure, the posts therein could be considered "quality posts," possibly of greater value than those from discussion threads.

 

Something else to consider is that there are even people who will hand out brohooves to friends of theirs in threads they don't necessarily care about. Just because a certain person made a post, some people will brohoof it. There's no way to regulate this. Even if brohoof incrementation was tightly controlled, people would still use it in such a way that wasn't intended. Attempts to game the system will never end.

 

Threads for brohoof farming and threads made solely to boost one's post count, which are just invitations for spam, are locked and removed by the staff. I've killed more threads of both kinds than I can recall anymore. If there's any particular threads not intended for that purpose that have this sort of behavior going on in them, then it needs to be eradicated.

 

 

But you know, XFizzle had the same idea that I originally had when spotting this thread — just get rid of the damn counters. I'd be glad to do that.

[Lightwing 12,978]

Or how about we keep brohoofs as an option to show agreement/approval/thumbs up, but just don't have the accumulation of them counted anywhere on a person's profile. Boom, problem solved. Because I know of a place where this works.

That's the best solution to this problem.

No counter=No more "Nuuu!!You have more brohoofs than me!!"

 

The solution would be to make it visible just to the user(I can see my brohoofs,but I can't see how many brohoofs does another have)

 

Is removing the counter harmful?I don't see why it should be...Without counter,this topic would never existed on a beggining.And there's no more "Popularity Contest",like other users said before.

 

 

Or,as a second option,have an option to Enable/Disable the Brohoof counter on your profile.

I would personally have it disabled,and I know a bunch of users that will have ot disabled too,but there's a lot of users,and not all of them will have that counter disabled

 

I'm up for this change ^^

Edited May 19, 2014 by Lightwing

[Guest90210 3,569]

But you know, XFizzle had the same idea that I originally had when spotting this thread — just get rid of the damn counters. I'd be glad to do that.

 

At the same time, the counter is a nice indication of the impact you've had on the forums to an extent. It would also piss a lot of people off who are wondering where all their brohoofs vanished to. Everyone likes approval. And on the other hand, there would be less "brohoof farming" and spam (presumably), and less pressure on newer members who have just joined to increase their own counter. Keeping the counter or removing it - Either is fine with me. Pick your poison.

Edited May 20, 2014 by Rivendare

[NavelColt 22,882]

Keeping the counter or removing it - Either is fine with me. Pick your poison.

 

Black and white isn't the reality in which we live :3 Topic relevant, trying to implement a means to turn off the counter *at least the immediate, obnoxious green one*, on an individual basis. It'll only be listed as a regular stat, down in the wall of other stats that are far, far more out of view and thus not in anyone's face, which is the core arguement for 'looming it over others', etc. The individual who turns it off would no longer see the green counter on any profile, including theirs. Tech ponies still seeing what can come of it.

[Sailor Venus 12]

I mean brohoof's is like people think that something is funny or like what they say I mean 99% of the brohoof's are for reasons it's not like someone made a thread in there so they can get brohoofs "brohoof this post and I will brohoff yours" 

[equerio 6,153]

Black and white isn't the reality in which we live :3 Topic relevant, trying to implement a means to turn off the counter *at least the immediate, obnoxious green one*, on an individual basis. It'll only be listed as a regular stat, down in the wall of other stats that are far, far more out of view and thus not in anyone's face, which is the core arguement for 'looming it over others', etc. The individual who turns it off would no longer see the green counter on any profile, including theirs. Tech ponies still seeing what can come of it.

This is the best solution we could have come up with. If this is really going to happen, you guys have my full support.

[Shift 4,272]

Since this thread is becoming a very seriously serious debate thread, seriously that I seriously do not find amusing at all, seriously, why don't we make a poll, OP?

 

Polls save lives. I think. Um... VOTE SHIFT FOR PRESIDENT! Polls save lives, you heard it here first, folks!