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How we should deal with clopping and cloppers


Killian Jones

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We are all very much aware of the so called rule 34 of the internet. It states: "If it exists, there is porn of it." It is very famously used to excuse the fact that there is porn of anything out there. And considering the internet is a handy compendium of all media, it also is going to likely contain pony porn somewhere, and it's going to be archived.

 

Now we know there is a significant amount of it out there if you searched for it. So unsurprisingly, considering the amount of it out there, there must be people who like it. And these people have gotten their own name to denote their actions as cloppers. Much like furries have the equivalent of cloppers.

 

Now what does mean for the regular brony? Well short answer is nothing. But there is a problem. A problem that should be solved from both sides amicably.

 

The deal is, people on the internet tend to be a bit public with their lives, perhaps a bit too public to people too unfamiliar with them. And this perhaps poses a kind of too much information problem out there. See the issue here becomes. is it necessary for someone who would fall under the group of "clopper" to publicly announce this? And in all honesty, it isn't. Because as information goes, it holds no added value to your person. It's not exactly wanted information.

 

This would be equivalent to publicly stating you like naked people in a shower while playing guitar as porn, it's slightly too specific and slightly unnecessary to know. It is highly annoying that people feel the need to deprivatise such information and make it like it is a part of themselves. A part of who they are.

 

Now cloppers shouldn't be ashamed of what they do, or what they like. But sexual themes do tend to go a little too far and a little over the rocks when it comes to having a discussion. It never is a good to hand out information if you are unsure if the person receiving it will be at any point interested.

 

That said, for anyone. If it is a part of your life, that's fine, but that information has it's place. While we all try to be less judgmental, don't make your preference in porn a part of you.

 

I hope I conveyed well that it's a discussion that shouldn't be an issue. And that we should only try to separate both from each other. We shouldn't let general bronydom be portrayed with clopping. It's not normal, cause it's not the general norm. And it wouldn't be preferable to have image issues concerning all the heavy debate.

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Unfortunately, i don't think there is a way to deal with it. I agree i don't have any problems with people who do it. But it makes the "Average Brony" look just that much more wrong in the eyes of haters. R34 is very real. I have had to up the amount of content that is blocked on my computer so that when my niece uses it searching for images of the characters clop fiction doesn't appear. Eventually it will fade behind the scenes and it wont be something we talk about often. As it is currently with other fandoms. Star Wars, Star Trek, DC/Marvel etc.

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Just because someone looks at MLP porn, doesn't necessarily mean it's their "preferred" porn. Just sayin'

 

That doesn't matter, does it have to be a public item of discussion whether or not you do so. I mentioned it in the post. Why do we need to know? Why do you have to tell me you actively look for these things. Why can't it be left in the back of our minds. We don't have to be prudes around friends. But around strangers, on a public forum?

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Here are some very easy methods of dealing with cloppers.

 

Don't bring up the subject in any way, manner, shape or form during discussions.

 

If someone else brings it up, make your lack of interest clear ("That's nice, anyway. . . ) and if they keep trying to bring it up "More information than I wanted to know".

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That doesn't matter, does it have to be a public item of discussion whether or not you do so. I mentioned it in the post. Why do we need to know? Why do you have to tell me you actively look for these things. Why can't it be left in the back of our minds. We don't have to be prudes around friends. But around strangers, on a public forum?

Umm, has it happened in this forum? I can't recall seeing it. (Apart from that old R34 thread)

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While I agree that people shouldn't just bring up clopping out of nowhere, if somebody starts hating on cloppers, I don't have a problem with people saying "hey, I'm a clopper, and you're full of shit."

 

Also, yay xkcd reference :D

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Umm, has it happened in this forum? I can't recall seeing it. (Apart from that old R34 thread)

 

This is aimed at people who go around and publicly say "I'm a clopper." in threads, this isn't about the content per se. But more about the people who say they enjoy it. While there is no shame, there is no need to dispense this information to the public.

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This is aimed at people who go around and publicly say "I'm a clopper." in threads, this isn't about the content per se. But more about the people who say they enjoy it. While there is no shame, there is no need to dispense this information to the public.

Yeah.

Telling friend you have known for some time and you know that he is OK with it is one thing. Throwing it in other peoples faces on  a forum is another thing.

 

If its not what the thread is about, i have no idea why they would even talk about it. Its not the nicest thing to talk about >_>

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*clams too coconut half's together*

well I don't see me clopping doing any harm to people..... if a topic comes up around this very subject i'm gonna say the truth because it will effect the weight of my opinion.

 

so the simple thing would be for people who have a problem with it to shut up about it.......

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Well, ya got me to log back onto this place so I could brohoof your blog post. I may as well comment while I've got myself logged in.

 

It is my opinion that clopping is a thing that shouldn't exactly be discussed openly. I mean, don't get me wrong, I can tolerate cloppers. But as you've said, there's real no reason for it to be a publicly known fact that a person masturbates to pictures of cartoon ponies.

 

To me, announcing that one enjoys "clop art" would be like if I, was, say, a coprophile, and openly announced "I'm turned on by feces!". Would that benefit the reader in any way? Nope. Would that be uncomfortable for the reader? Yep. Would it potentially make them see me as some kind of pervert? Yes.

 

It's not a sexuality, which changes their entire life. It isn't a part of who they are is a person, except for in a minor, non-public way. It's just an attraction to images of cartoon ponies. Something that, out of common sense and decency, should remain between the "clopper" and their "Stuff to wank to" folder.

 

(No, I'm not a coprophile. It's obvious I just made that up as an example, but I feel the need to state it anyways so nobody decides to intentionally misinterpret my words to slander me.)

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So you are saying that people should just close themselves because you want it?

What would you say when somebody told you that you shouldn't tell anybody about you being a brony, because 'it constitues no useful information'?

It makes no sense, and just because sexual themes are somehow shunned on the American continent doesn't mean that everyone now has to see things in the same way.

 

What if I tell you that blog posts are something people don't have to write since who cares about what a given person thinks?

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So you are saying that people should just close themselves because you want it?

What would you say when somebody told you that you shouldn't tell anybody about you being a brony, because 'it constitues no useful information'?

 

It makes no sense, and just because sexual themes are somehow shunned on the American continent doesn't mean that everyone now has to see things in the same way.

 

What if I tell you that blog posts are something people don't have to write since who cares about what a given person thinks?

 

You misrepresent my opinion in a way that is remarkable. And then you proceed to attack my blog.

 

The point of saying that stating "I am a clopper." publicly is just not something to say. Roop said it nicely with his feces metaphor. But really, is it that important that everyone knows what kind of porn you masturbate to. Are you that depraved to think it's ok to tell people that horse sex is what turns you on? Because that is essentially what you are admitting to.

 

It isn't useful information because it's not relevant to anything other than porn. What is the point. Are we defining ourselves through what we enjoy watching sexually? If you honestly think it is, then you shouldn't be too surprised if you receive any flak or weird looks, and you shouldn't feel offended if people decide to tiptoe around you. 

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You misrepresent my opinion in a way that is remarkable. And then you proceed to attack my blog.

 

The point of saying that stating "I am a clopper." publicly is just not something to say. Roop said it nicely with his feces metaphor. But really, is it that important that everyone knows what kind of porn you masturbate to. Are you that depraved to think it's ok to tell people that horse sex is what turns you on? Because that is essentially what you are admitting to.

 

It isn't useful information because it's not relevant to anything other than porn. What is the point. Are we defining ourselves through what we enjoy watching sexually? If you honestly think it is, then you shouldn't be too surprised if you receive any flak or weird looks, and you shouldn't feel offended if people decide to tiptoe around you. 

Where did I attack your blog? Where did I say anything about cloppers? No, it seems you feel personally attacked by this and I am sorry for that. But the way you phrase anything is so condescending and arrogant that I couldn't just sit there and watch.

 

Alone the title is annoying "How to deal with X" just tries to place you in an hypothetical position you are not in.

 

And I kinda expect you to take back your comment about how people look at me because that is something not relevant here.

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Umm, has it happened in this forum? I can't recall seeing it. (Apart from that old R34 thread)

 

There was a status update the other day where everyone started admitting they were cloppers. It was kind of funny lol

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Why do you even care ?

 

That's cute.

 

Cartoon horse sex.

 

There is a huge difference. Don't mix em up.

 

There's a specific term for picking out a single insignificant thing and ignoring the rest of the person's argument to make yourself look like you won, but I can't remember it.

 

I'm going to say this: Whatever happened to decency? The concept of "Maybe other people don't want to hear this?"

 

And before anybody claims I'm prejudiced or whatever, no. I am not. There is a difference between expecting some courtesy, and being an asshole. (Most) people who have a problem with people who openly announce their preference in wanking material aren't assholes.

 

Not wanting to hear that somebody likes to masturbate to cartoon horses is not discrimination. Discrimination would be making those people sit in the back of the bus, whether metaphorically or literally.

 

"Cloppers" are simply people who masturbate to cartoon ponies. That's it. It's not a psychological condition, or a physical condition or trait. It's a behavior. Could even be called a hobby. It's like, say, I like to ride lawn mowers. If I were to shove a lawn mower in somebody's face when they didn't want a lawn mower in their face, would I be being discriminated against? No, I would not.

 

Discrimination is a real thing that happens. And I will be honest. It saddens me to see people lumping the clopping scenarios in the same boat with actual discrimination.

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Why are you guys making such a big deal about people saying they clop? I would just be like "ok whatever" and move on. No sense in getting worked up about it.

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When you call it a hobby and then say people shouldn't talk about it you are putting it into a special case which does not exist on the internet. The whole 'shoving into faces' metaphor only works when talking to someone... well face to face. On the internet you can easily ignore things. So why not do that? Why care about a random dude.

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If this is because of what a certain member said in his status, which is the only thing I can think of, why not bring it up with him? True, we didn't need to know that about him, but we don't need you to lecture us about it either. It's a potentially divisive act that doesn't accomplish anything, except vaguely annoy a bunch of people who had nothing to do with the issue.

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We should take all the discriminatory pricks like you and push them somewhere else.

you quit discriminating against my beliefs i am offended

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I personally hate all forms of MLP R34 and Clop and do whatever I can to avoid it.Sure I might see something that ticks me off or gets under my skin but I try to forget about it

 

IMO there's no real way to "deal" with it on a scale that'd change the whole fandom but you bet your ass you can do it on a personal level  :lol:

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