Kind Claw

Plant's do not have a brain or central nervous system so they cannot "feel" pain or perceive damage as painful and even if they did then by default we should all go vegan as it takes way WAY less plants to feed 8 billion humans instead of 70 Billion land animals yearly. People arguing that "plants feeling pain" as an excuse to continue eating creatures that DO feel pain is the most frustrating and idiomatic argument I have ever encountered, it even draws attention from the obvious fact that animals absolutely feel pain and express it in ways we can perceive and identify with. 100% I guarantee that everyone would rather chop a carrot than slit a cows throat even if both of them felt pain and as far as cult behaviour goes no I disagree, few big dumb meanies acting like jerks while being vegan does not mean veganism is a cult, it simply means some jerks are vegan just like some omnivores who ridicule friends and family for being vegan are not cults they too are just being jerks.

Even if it seems unlikely that we wont stop eating meat all together as specie, that doesn't mean that others should not try to reduce and even eliminate their consumption of animal products. People are not going to stop taking illegal drugs all together but doesn't mean I'm going to start taking crack lol (Example used to illustrate a point, don't do drugs kids)

Religious views? Cult views? Extreme views? let's clear things up a bit here on this thread. What is veganism? Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals (Wikipedia) Veganism is not religious, cultist or extreme. If anypony thinks that living a life that reduces violence as "extreme" then you need to re-evaluate your thought's on what classifies as extremism. Let's look at two sides of the argument here, one view eats only plants (or things that do not feel pain) is not unhealthy and is less damaging to the environment the other view literally FORCES animals to live lives of exploitation and then be slaughtered because of taste preferences. Now I'll ask you personally, which view would be considered extreme if you were looking at it objectively? Again one forces animals to die, the other does not.

In terms of nutrition vegans who supplement B12 are healthier than omnivores because they don't consume animal products. Vegans not being opposed to allowing bee's to pollinate fruits and veggies the logical stance is that bee's are not forced to do it they are simply behaving normally. in regard to manure being used to fertilized crops, recycling waste is good for the environment and for better food production but if some are against the use of animal products in all aspects of farming you can get fertilizers from non animals sources like composted plant material. Chickens are treated like products (egg laying machines) and are subjected to horrendous conditions like being cooped and killed early when egg production reduces. The egg industry also kill male baby chicks after one day because they are considered a waste products, they are often thrown into a grinder, suffocated with gas or thrown in mass into a bag to suffocate.

I understand the need to keep this forum site free of violence, sexual violence and gore and understand why my videos and links were removed from this discussion. I will try to share a more light hearted aspect of living a lifestyle that does not directly exploit animals for pleasure. I am however disappointed in human psychology regarding how we are against something (Violence towards animals) yet pay for it to happen without directly seeing it for our own eyes. On hard topics like this we need and deserve transparency in order to make more informed choices that align with our morality. If Anypony want's to learn about the practices in the animal agricultural industries before commenting on this discussion feel free to message me.

I think learning both sides of the argument for yourself is important instead of thinking how society tells you to think. The main reason people go vegan is for the animals, if any type of person wanted to go vegan for the animals it would be Bronies since we all love animals (Ponies and non Ponie alike) Fluttershy would be very upset if you didn't

Let's say for example you had a bad experience with EVERY vegan you ever met, does that mean you shouldn't go vegan? Of course not. Blaming others and using them as an excuse to do something that is exploitive, damaging and unhealthy is irresponsible. So many people call vegans extreme but It's a fact that vegans cannot "Force" their views onto others but omnivores can and do "Force" animals to die for their views even though it's been proven that the optimal amount of animal consumption for health is zero.