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It seems to fit your talents and skill set. Though being able to use a gun would also be useful, don't know where you are there.

 

Not.

 

I've been to two gun ranges and couldn't hit anything that was beyond point blank. My archery wan't much better either. I'm not exactly a master in my own martial arts either, but I'm trying and certainly show more talent there then in marksmanship.

in terms of durability. boop.

 

They require maintenance sure, but they'll last you a battle or two. Maintaining the weapon is just part of the discipline in actually using it.

 

Look I'm not saying it can cut through concrete, just that it does deserve it's reputation as a damn good sword, however exaggerated. (Which is nothing new by the way for those who know the tale of Masamune.)

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While I'm more of a bow lass myself, my husband has a predominantly western sword collection.  My favorite bladed weapon is probably the Ngbaka!  It's a rediculous looking throwing blade that does an insane amount of damage.  You don't necessarily want to be in close range either...

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While I'm more of a bow lass myself, my husband has a predominantly western sword collection.  My favorite bladed weapon is probably the Ngbaka!  It's a rediculous looking throwing blade that does an insane amount of damage.  You don't necessarily want to be in close range either...

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I've seen this thing before. Not my first choice of weapon, I would find using it awkward. However, that is a useful option, you can cut up on your foe when he's right next to you, or throw it accurately if he's barreling down on you.

 

Not many larger weapons have that amount of versatility.

better in every way possible ( ?° ?? ?°)

 

That's impossible. Nothing can be better "in every possible way." If I were to say that a jet plane is better in every possible way to a toaster, that would be a fallacy.

 

You can't make waffles with a jet engine, unless you want them coated in after burner gunk and incinerated.

 

Plus, both "gun" and "sword" refer to an insanely wide variety of weapons. All weapons have their uses and some are better suited to a situation than others. For instance, in a situation such as mine, where I practice martial arts but are a piss poor shot, a rapier would actually be more effective in my hands than an assault rifle.

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I've seen this thing before. Not my first choice of weapon, I would find using it awkward. However, that is a useful option, you can cut up on your foe when he's right next to you, or throw it accurately if he's barreling down on you.

 

Not many larger weapons have that amount of versatility.

This guy wasn't very good with his weapons, but it's still cool to see them in a fight scene :)

 

From my art history courses that covered these people, those who carried around a Ngbaka usually had more than one, a long narrow sheild, and both a bow and a short sword along with it. Armed to the teeth!

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This guy wasn't very good with his weapons, but it's still cool to see them in a fight scene :)

 

From my art history courses that covered these people, those who carried around a Ngbaka usually had more than one, a long narrow sheild, and both a bow and a short sword along with it. Armed to the teeth!

 

Which made sense considering that one of the main methods of attacks was throwing the damn thing.  :lol: Similarly, pirates would carry many pistols on them back in the day so they didn't have to take five minutes to reload after every shot.

 

(Fun fact, pirates were not the most feared swordsmen that they are said to be. Some were, having been trained as naval officers before defecting to piracy, but the common sea dog would rather use an short axe or knife during boarding actions than a sword.)

 

Personally, I would prefer to have one or two weapons that I'm really good with, as opposed to a dozen weapons that I have to worry about and think about in the middle of a fight.

 

 

See? One weapon in the hands of a master, is better than many weapons held by a pretender.

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See? One weapon in the hands of a master, is better than many weapons held by a pretender.

True, and if it were me I would stubbornly use one weapon and then immediately lose any scuffle I got into! haha Thus, I would prefer avoiding confrontation and taking something out with a bow from a distance ( I am the most boring theif character in Elder Scrolls, but heck I never take any damage)

Still, I appreciate the versitility and effectiveness of the Ngbaka.  It's like a utility knife. You throw, you slice, you impale, you hook away your oponent's weapons, you rip open armor, etc. Plus its pretty unique looking coming from a visual standpoint. (I'm more of an artist than a fighter!) 

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Why do you think I named myself after the samurai adage of "pen and sword, in equal accord"?

I'm a writer just as much as I am a martial artist. Still learning in both. We call them the martial arts for a reason, there is an aspect to their practice beyond combat. It's expression through the body and mind.

Plus a weapon can be both aesthetically pleasing as well as practical. A Naginata is a beautifully designed weapon and is often better to have than a katana, due to it's reach.

Plus it's not like archery doesn't take a great amount of skill either.

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You can use a handgun in your off hand with a sword to. Cavalry Officers in the Civil War were actually trained to use sabers in their main hand and a revolver in their off hand.

 

Regardless of practicality, they are romanticized for a reason, they speak to something profound in the human condition. Mastering swordsmanship requires passionate, disciplined, and loving dedication to the art.

 

 

Not sure about art in guns, but holding a gun in your hands don't make you a marksman either. Yes, using guns is easier, and requires much less time to be good at it than a sword, and also takes away most of the physical condition required to master it, but  compensates it with an overwhelming amount of discipline and mental condition, because guns are far more dangerous than swords, since are far easier to accidentally hurt or kill someone. I know that because my dad trained me a bit, but he always put much emphasis in dicipline 


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That's impossible. Nothing can be better "in every possible way." If I were to say that a jet plane is better in every possible way to a toaster, that would be a fallacy.

 

You can't make waffles with a jet engine, unless you want them coated in after burner gunk and incinerated.

 

Plus, both "gun" and "sword" refer to an insanely wide variety of weapons. All weapons have their uses and some are better suited to a situation than others. For instance, in a situation such as mine, where I practice martial but are a piss poor shot, a rapier would actually be more effective in my hands than an assault rifle.

 

 

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Not sure about art in guns, but holding a gun in your hands don't make you a marksman either. Yes, using guns is easier, and requires much less time to be good at it than a sword, and also takes away most of the physical condition required to master it, but  compensates it with an overwhelming amount of discipline and mental condition, because guns are far more dangerous than swords, since are far easier to accidentally hurt or kill someone. I know that because my dad trained me a bit, but he always put much emphasis in dicipline 

 

Exactly, key word here is discipline. Mastering either weapon can be a noble art in of itself. Just because I'm no good with firearms doesn't I don't recognize the care and dedication it takes to becoming a real marksman.

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As I said, in another post, there's nothing wrong with guns by themselves. As I'm trying to stress, it's the man, not the weapon.

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If there's still any kind of debate over this,

 

Claim: Objects cannot be evil.

 

The distinction between good and bad is a moral one, morality presupposes a consciousness and freedom of choice.

Where there is no choice, there can be no 'good' and 'bad', or 'right' and 'wrong'. You are literally unable to choose between either, which voids your morality, as your hands have been forced to act (lack of alternative). This applies to some human actions, but mostly, to non-human things, such to include: inanimate objects. For an object to be moral, it must have the capacity for rational decisionmaking (first and foremost, between 'moral' and 'immoral'), which it doesn't possess.

 

It is said thus, that weapons can be neither evil, nor good*. QED

 

 

Furthermore, the same line of reasoning applies to fire and water.. evidently, we need both of those things, because of their constructive properties. However, do you blame the fire for killing that orphanage? Do you blame the water when you drown?

You don't, because they cannot be held responsible for their actions, they have no choice but to act in one way, and one way only.

 

You would be merely sanctioning the actions of an arson, or freak that tossed you in the ocean, or the burglar that shot you, if you were to do that.

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If there's still any kind of debate over this,

 

Claim: Objects cannot be evil.

 

The distinction between good and bad is a moral one, morality presupposes a consciousness and freedom of choice.

Where there is no choice, there can be no 'good' and 'bad', or 'right' and 'wrong'. You are literally unable to choose between either, which voids your morality, as your hands have been forced to act (lack of alternative). This applies to some human actions, but mostly, to non-human things, such to include: inanimate objects. For an object to be moral, it must have the capacity for rational decisionmaking (first and foremost, between 'moral' and 'immoral'), which it doesn't possess.

 

It is said thus, that weapons can be neither evil, nor good*. QED

 

 

Furthermore, the same line of reasoning applies to fire and water.. evidently, we need both of those things, because of their constructive properties. However, do you blame the fire for killing that orphanage? Do you blame the water when you drown?

You don't, because they cannot be held responsible for their actions, they have no choice but to act in one way, and one way only.

 

You would be merely sanctioning the actions of an arson, or freak that tossed you in the ocean, or the burglar that shot you, if you were to do that.

 

Didn't stop Captain Ahab.  :P

 

"Vengeance on a dumb brute! That simply smote thee from blindest instinct! Madness! To be enraged with a dumb thing, Captain Ahab, seems blasphemous."

 

"Talk not to me of blasphemy, man! I'd strike the sun if it insulted me! For if the sun could do that, then I could do the other."

 

I completely agree with you, I'm just highlighting the fact that people will always imbue objects and forces with agency and responsibility for their perceived evils. Much as I personal detest this kind of thinking, I can see how it might be a coping mechanism for a good number of people.

 

Because if guns aren't evil (as viewed by them), then evil remains something nebulous and undefined rather than something that can be blamed on the existence of an obvious scapegoat meant to empower evil in the world. Better the Devil you know, after all.

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Swords are very cool! lets see, a long sharp metal  blade on a stick that is technically legal to have in your home What could be better?

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@@Steel Accord,

 

Yeah, pretty much

 

It doesn't mean that you cannot arrive at constructive ends by making, for instance, your building fire-proof

but that line of reasoning requires more thought that a clear ban or sanction to a potent force,

 

and people wonder why no problems are being solved, like, ever.

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@@Steel Accord,

 

Yeah, pretty much

 

It doesn't mean that you cannot arrive at constructive ends by making, for instance, your building fire-proof

but that line of reasoning requires more thought that a clear ban or sanction to a potent force,

 

and people wonder why no problems are being solved, like, ever.

 

Well honestly, we are both talking in a vacuum. I'm not exactly Spock myself, as introspective and cautious as I am, I think more with my heart than I do my head.

 

I'm sure both of us also have areas where we are far less well adjusted.

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I personally prefer a small and much faster weapon

 

A master swordsman can be pretty damn fast on the draw. Iajutsu is entirely based around drawing your weapon, attacking, and then resheathing your weapon all in one or two motions.

 

In addition, ever see a master use a jian? Thing looks like it's a fan blade sometimes! 

 

Hell I once heard that an Italian fencer was so quick and so precise that he was able to take off another guy's glasses with the tip of his weapon before the other guy blinked! (Albeit that last one is apocryphal.) 

 

Again though, whatever works best for the individual, just don't count on a sword to operate as a slow and unwieldy weapon no matter it's size. Personally, I prefer the obvious ways. It's honest and sincere. One shouldn't seek to fight, but if one must, it's better to overcome your foe with the superiority of your skill, not because you have an ace up your sleeve.

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I love all kinds of swords, but once swords become like this I will be officiall the happiest man alive.

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Then you will never be happy. That thing is an unpractical waste of resources. Even I, "Mr. preference before practicality" can see that!

 

If swords were to make a comeback as a self-defense weapon, they would resemble thiner weapons like the jian or a rapier and the superior materials and technology intricate to them would allow greater cutting power than the pictured weapon would offer.

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I take it you are a pacifist?

 

Yeah... I hate violence in reality. For some reason I think swords are really cool, but to be honest, the way they actually work is not at all. I've just played too many video games, watched too much anime. =/


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Then you will never be happy. That thing is an unpractical waste of resources. Even I, "Mr. preference before practicality" can see that!

 

If swords were to make a comeback as a self-defense weapon, they would resemble thiner weapons like the jian or a rapier and the superior materials and technology intricate to them would allow greater cutting power than the pictured weapon would offer.

Waste of resource he say when he's only seen one its forms.


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