Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 They were almost completely absent from the show in the early seasons, but lately they've become almost routine. I'll give my opinion later, first I want to hear what others here think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 I would like you to elaborate on how the show has become more violent. The show has always had fantasy violence to a very small degree. 3 Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Lona 382 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 I'm okay with it as long as it is done well and does not overshadow the non-violent content that drew me to the show in the first place. I wouldn't want fighting to become the focus of the show. I like the group fighting scenes such as in Power Ponies and A Canterlot Wedding more than the one on one type stuff like Twilight vs Tirek in the season four finale. 5 My OC, Tabula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 I would like you to elaborate on how the show has become more violent. The show has always had fantasy violence to a very small degree. It's gotten more violent, meaning there's more violence. But more importantly than that, the show has only recently begun using violence to solve problems. While ponies were using violence as early as season 2, I believe it wasn't until Princess Twilight Sparkle that it was actually used to effect rather than to spectacularly fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 I believe it wasn't until Princess Twilight Sparkle that it was actually used to effect rather than to spectacularly fail. What about in "A Canterlot Wedding: Part 2"? Anyway, I think if an uptick in violence means we're going to see more story driven episodes than I'll support it. As long as it's not too severe or distracting. 1 Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DND 2,355 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 (edited) It's pretty violent now, actually- I agree. Only, they're also doing a fine job to still make it appropriate for the initial target audience. I see no problem with it; in fact, I think it's a pretty cool thing to have badass ladies getting things done with physical power especially in a kid's show like this. c: Edited January 9, 2015 by IncognitoKiwoy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZRD WZRD 1,929 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 If it makes sense and it doesn't look stupid, then I'm for it. 4 Check out my channel for awesome video reviews and analysis! https://www.youtube.com/c/LZRDWZRD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwanky 17,599 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 Any new ideas are always welcome to the show for me. Still FiM is distinctly different from other shows like Dragon Ball Z or Transformers or even older generations of MLP for that matter. I don't think its been overdone yet, even in Twilight's Kingdom, but there should be a cautionary approach taken so as not to let the show turn into a testosterone pumped thriller. Unless of course the creators intend for it to go that direction, which itself is a different subject. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleverclover 1,526 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 I'm okay with it as long as it is done well and does not overshadow the non-violent content that drew me to the show in the first place. I wouldn't want fighting to become the focus of the show. I like the group fighting scenes such as in Power Ponies and A Canterlot Wedding more than the one on one type stuff like Twilight vs Tirek in the season four finale. Agreed wholeheartedly with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 What about in "A Canterlot Wedding: Part 2"? Anyway, I think if an uptick in violence means we're going to see more story driven episodes than I'll support it. As long as it's not too severe or distracting. What about it? They lost. Nothing was accomplished. And wait, when did more violence equal more story driven episodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 (edited) Violence has become a bit more common in the series but is still not occurring often enough to be called common. It seems to mostly happen in season premiers and finales which have tended to be more action oriented that most of the episodes even in the beginning of the series. Edited January 9, 2015 by EarthbendingProdigy 2 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 Violence has become a bit more common in the series but is still not occurring often enough to be called common. It seems to mostly happen in season premiers and finales which have tended to be more action oriented that most of the episodes even in the beginning of the series. In addition to the premiere, Daring Don't, Power Ponies, Three's a Crowd and Somepony to Watch Over Me all relied on fighting to solve the conflict. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilt 286 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 Well I disagree, alot of the 'violence' you speak off has no lasting effects on any of the characters in the later seasons, they get blasted or whatever then get up and shrug off with no signs of physical pain. Now I direct your attention to season 1's Feeling Pinkie Keen. What all the pain and suffering Twilight goes through and goes progressively worse and in season 2's It's about time, she gets really jacked up in that one. Season 3 and 4 I can't really recall any scenes where the painful aftermath of any hits or bangs were even shown. Sure the violence is implied but you don't see any long lasting after effects. I mean look at the season 4 open, Celestia and Luna come out of those vines completely clean and untouched...what was stopping them from blasting free? If anything I think the shows gotten less violent but more impactful and flashy. 3 My pony OC If you would like to Roleplay please Private message me, I only like one on one Roleplays cause groups get overwhelming and becoming attention contests, I like to rp with people equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 In addition to the premiere, Daring Don't, Power Ponies, Three's a Crowd and Somepony to Watch Over Me all relied on fighting to solve the conflict. Yes but if you include the season premiers and finales that is 8 episodes which out of 26 in season 4 is still a minority. It still indicates an increase but I don't see how this is enough to call it "routine", routine implies that is happens in almost every episode which is not the case. Whether it is the case in season 5, I don't think it will be but another increase is possible so we will have to wait and see on that. 1 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manman20x6 359 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 Now I direct your attention to season 1's Feeling Pinkie Keen. What all the pain and suffering Twilight goes through and goes progressively worse and in season 2's It's about time, she gets really jacked up in that one. That is called "slapstick comedy" and it's generally considered to be a more kid-friendly form of violence since it doesn't involve actual combat. Personally, I disliked "Twilight's Kingdom" because gigantic laser duels aren't the reason why I like My Little Pony. I do enjoy a great fight scene in a show that's about fighting, but MLP isn't one of them and it just felt out of place as a result. I SHIP FLUTTERSHY X BULK BICEPS SO HARD Also, I really like Cloudchaser's mane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilt 286 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 That is called "slapstick comedy" and it's generally considered to be a more kid-friendly form of violence since it doesn't involve actual combat. Personally, I disliked "Twilight's Kingdom" because gigantic laser duels aren't the reason why I like My Little Pony. I do enjoy a great fight scene in a show that's about fighting, but MLP isn't one of them and it just felt out of place as a result. I get that, but Slapstick is still at it's core violent and usually slapstick has characters bounce back with no after-effects. Whilst Twilight gets grazed, bandaged, blinded and even wheelchair bound. 1 My pony OC If you would like to Roleplay please Private message me, I only like one on one Roleplays cause groups get overwhelming and becoming attention contests, I like to rp with people equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 Yes but if you include the season premiers and finales that is 8 episodes which out of 26 in season 4 is still a minority. It still indicates an increase but I don't see how this is enough to call it "routine", routine implies that is happens in almost every episode which is not the case. Whether it is the case in season 5, I don't think it will be but another increase is possible so we will have to wait and see on that. I said it was almost routine, and when the first two seasons had ZERO problems solved by violence, I think it's a fair assessment. Do you really think something has to be in more than half of the episodes to be a problem? Well just to add to my stance here, I really liked how in the first two seasons, not only did violence never once solve a problem, but it was kind of presented as the wrong thing to do in all cases. The show seemed to be sending a message: "In the world of friendship Equestria, violence will never aid Good." Go on, count the number of dangerous monsters they face and pacify/escape without violence. Ahem, Nightmare Moon, Discord, Chrysalis, Sombre, and Sunset of course. But also a manticore, a hydra, two dragons, Cerberus, an ursa minor, Trixie (x2), ravenous parasprites, diamond dogs, rampaging buffalo, monster Spike, windigoes, Ahuizotl, dragon teenagers, does Iron Will count? And that's mostly just the first two seasons. Violence, not even once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 And that's mostly just the first two seasons. Violence, not even once. King Sombra was obliterated, it dosen't outright state that he died but he probably did die as if you look at that scene he was clearly blown to bits. The Changeling invasion culminated in an epic fight scene between the changeling army and the mane 6 which wasn't surpassed until Twilight's duel with Tirek in the season 4 finale. And Discord was turned to stone which is a fate even worse than death. 2 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 What about it? They lost. Nothing was accomplished. Then I'm not sure what you're getting at. Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 King Sombra was obliterated, it dosen't outright state that he died but he probably did die as if you look at that scene he was clearly blown to bits. The Changeling invasion culminated in an epic fight scene between the changeling army and the mane 6 which wasn't surpassed until Twilight's duel with Tirek in the season 4 finale. And Discord was turned to stone which is a fate even worse than death. They didn't set out to explode Sombre. The others don't even remotely count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC_Maud_Pie 6,431 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 If it's kid-friendly and not gory, then I'll be fine with it. 1 All my life needed was a sense of someplace to go. I don't believe that one should devote his life to morbid self-attention. I believe that someone should become a person like other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 Then I'm not sure what you're getting at. The problem is violence actually doing something. If you just wanted to point to it in general, you could have pointed to Rarity kicking a manticore in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilt 286 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 They didn't set out to explode Sombre. The others don't even remotely count. How do they not count? It's still violence, now this thread is getting silly, lets not bicker and argue over who laser blasted who! Lets just agree that the series is a cesspool of violence! XD My pony OC If you would like to Roleplay please Private message me, I only like one on one Roleplays cause groups get overwhelming and becoming attention contests, I like to rp with people equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 January 9, 2015 Share January 9, 2015 The problem is violence actually doing something When did violence accomplish something significant in the season four opening episodes? Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulset Tarn 441 January 9, 2015 Author Share January 9, 2015 How do they not count? It's still violence, now this thread is getting silly, lets not bicker and argue over who laser blasted who! Lets just agree that the series is a cesspool of violence! XD Because as I mentioned before, the changeling "fight scene" doesn't accomplish anything. And the elements of harmony aren't violent. When did violence accomplish something significant in the season four opening episodes? When Twillight saves her friends by blasting a plant with an incinerator beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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