Boast Busters: Is it really so bad?

[ZStrike37 107]

So is it just me or is the general consensus that people don't really like Boast Busters too much?  Trixie aside, I always hear complaints on the episode.  It's up there with Mare do Well, which I don't understand the dislike for either.

 

Dont' get me wrong, I'm not angry or anything because "U NO LIEK EPISODS I LEIK!!".  I just would like to know why people seem to dislike Boast Busters.  I thought it was pretty interesting and fun.  But maybe I am crazy and it's just a small population I've heard that don't like it.  Possibly

[ShadOBabe 18,997]

No it's alright. I enjoyed it as well.

Mysterious Mare Do Well is fine too. 

 

I'm not sure I have an episode I actively dislike... I'll have to think about it.

 

EDIT: Oh, I remember now... "Bats". I didn't like that episode at all.

Edited June 20, 2015 by ShadOBabe

[cider float 2,538]

Boast Busters and Mare Do Well are awesome.

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

The thing is, the ponies criticize Trixie for being a loud mouth and a bragger, which isn't that big of a deal, because Trixie is a show pony. If you have ever seen a magic show, a stage show, or even a wrestling show, you get these kinds of people, because they play role.

 

The ponies should have been a bit smarter and just let her do the show, instead of getting angry by her kayfabe.

[Jeremiah 1,586]

Boast Busters and Mare Do Well are awesome.

Yeah, both episodes are great, but who is the writer we hate on for writing Mare Do Well?

[ZStrike37 107]

The thing is, the ponies criticize Trixie for being a loud mouth and a bragger, which isn't that big of a deal, because Trixie is a show pony. If you have ever seen a magic show, a stage show, or even a wrestling show, you get these kinds of people, because they play role.

 

The ponies should have been a bit smarter and just let her do the show, instead of getting angry by her kayfabe.

 

I suppose they're a bit hot-headed, but I think it's because Trixie has been to Ponyville before and may have caused some upsets or something.  We know this isn't Trixie's first show ever.  We also know she's quite famous.  But my biggest reason for thinking this isn't her first trip to Ponyville is that Pinkie always greets a newcomer to the town, but was no where to be seen for Trixie's show. 

 

OK, so I may be reading a bit deep into, but hey, it's just what popped in my head.

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

I suppose they're a bit hot-headed, but I think it's because Trixie has been to Ponyville before and may have caused some upsets or something.  We know this isn't Trixie's first show ever.  We also know she's quite famous.  But my biggest reason for thinking this isn't her first trip to Ponyville is that Pinkie always greets a newcomer to the town, but was no where to be seen for Trixie's show. 

 

OK, so I may be reading a bit deep into, but hey, it's just what popped in my head.

 

Sorry, that is just not good enough for me. I am not much into headcanon and i take the episodes as i see it. So for me, there is no indication that she was there before.

 

If you like the episode, more power to you.

[cider float 2,538]

The thing is, the ponies criticize Trixie for being a loud mouth and a bragger, which isn't that big of a deal, because Trixie is a show pony. If you have ever seen a magic show, a stage show, or even a wrestling show, you get these kinds of people, because they play role.

 

The ponies should have been a bit smarter and just let her do the show, instead of getting angry by her kayfabe.

I don't know how that's a reason to hate Boast Busters. The ponies were in character and so was Trixie. If you remember how the ponies reacted to Rainbow Dash in Mare Do Well you should expect them to always dislike braggarts.

[Singe 2,111]

Trixie was a show performer putting on an act like Steven Colbert does for The Colbert Report, but that just flies over the Mane 6 heads who see it otherwise. They end up destroying Trixie's career in the end and shame her for trying to make a living.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Singe

[baba_booey 4,302]

I've typed up why I think it's the worst episode yet tons of times. So I might as well just quote what I said from my "Top 10 Least Favorite Episodes" blog post.

 

 

But like all of my Top 5, I have more to say about this one. Because looking past the introduction of my least favorite MLP characters, Snips and Snails and how almost 1/3rd of the episode is wasted to Rarity, Rainbow Dash and Applejack acting hypocritical toward Trixie, there's OTHER problems to this episode. First of all, Twilight's conflict feels incredibly forced. I can give her credit because she's doing the right thing, but it's for the wrong reason, because her friends will hate her if she went up against Trixie. Yet her friends are GOING AFTER TRIXIE THEMSELVES, and getting rekt by Trixie. Heck, Spike, Rainbow Dash and Applejack were actually egging Twilight Sparkle on to try to go against Trixie. I hate to say it, but if her friends are OBVIOUSLY egging her on, then why is she scared of getting hated by them? It makes the moral and conflict both feel overall forced and in a really bad way. But, either way, I still have to say that, if you look at it from an in-depth standpoint, and focus on what cutie marks are pretty much for, it's really screwed up towards Trixie. If you think about it, show magic is Trixie's goal in life, her cutie mark, her destiny, everything. Sure she gets over the top with her act, but she's still a magician. Now, there's half the Mane 6 trying to battle her and wanting her pushed out of her job, but even after being rekt, there's still Snips and Snails who try to prove she's amazing, so they bring a giant monster to Ponyville, which destroys the town, causing her to get kicked out of Ponyville, and with Magic Duel, shows that she's put out of her job and her home because she exaggerated about defeating an Ursa Major. Okay, even if she got OTT and exaggerated, would she really deserve THAT much? It's no wonder there's so many people that feel bad for her. Even if Trixie's one of my favorite characters, she can't save this episode. At all.

tl;dr - It's in general mean-spirited toward Trixie despite her being a showpony.

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

I don't know how that's a reason to hate Boast Busters. The ponies were in character and so was Trixie. If you remember how the ponies reacted to Rainbow Dash in Mare Do Well you should expect them to always dislike braggarts.

 

Mare Do Well was also an episode i didn't like.

 

Also, like i said before, Trixie was a show pony. If you have seen those people before, you know it's pretty much for the act. If these ponies can't seperate from show and reality, then that makes them look very stupid.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Boast Busters is hated for the following reasons:

 

1. AJ, Rarity, and RD were picking on Trixie's bragging when it's very much part of her whole shtick as a magician to entertain the crowd through a boisterous persona. Trixie is unfairly cast as a villain for the episode because it is bad.

 

2. Those three ponies tried to discredit and upstage Trixie when she has done nothing wrong and yet we're still expected to view Trixie as the villain when those three were far more antagonistic.

 

3. Twilight's conflict is poorly thought out as being afraid to use magic because she didn't wanted her friends to hate her despite it being obvious that they didn't like Trixie's manner rather than her ability to use magic, especially when Rainbow Dash, AJ, and Spike all but confirmed that they wanted Twilight to use her magic to battle Trixie for who is the superior unicorn.

 

4. Snips and Snails were the ones who caused the damage to Ponyville and ruined Trixie's career by believing in Trixie's lie and than deciding that what better way to prove how great she is by actually summoning a dangerous creature for her to battle against. And they were never called out for it but yet Trixie's the one who is still the villain.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Nuke87654

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

I like this episode. Sure it's not one of my all time favorites but I like far more than Magic Duel. 

[Singe 2,111]

I see a problem with Twilight Sparkle showing off her magic in dealing with the Ursa Minor, which encroaches on Fluttershy's role of dealing with wild dangerous animals.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Singe

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Mare Do Well was also an episode i didn't like.

 

Also, like i said before, Trixie was a show pony. If you have seen those people before, you know it's pretty much for the act. If these ponies can't seperate from show and reality, then that makes them look very stupid.

The reality is Trixie was boasting and pretending to be the best magic wielding unicorn around to gain fame, she caught wind of the criticism and challenged the mane six. In the end Twilight showed her up. They did separate show and reality and realized Trixie was a fraud and any respect she could have had was gone. Trixie was trying to pretend to be a competent magic using unicorn she was not putting on a show to entertain but to try and garner fans that really think she is a wizard. Again she is not trying to put on a show she is trying to gain fame as a serious wizard making up lies about how she defeated an Ursa Major.

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

The reality is Trixie was boasting and pretending to be the best magic wielding unicorn around to gain fame, she caught wind of the criticism and challenged the mane six. In the end Twilight showed her up. They did separate show and reality and realized Trixie was a fraud and any respect she could have had was gone. Trixie was trying to pretend to be a competent magic using unicorn she was not putting on a show to entertain but to try and garner fans that really think she is a wizard. Again she is not trying to put on a show she is trying to gain fame as a serious wizard making up lies about how she defeated an Ursa Major.

 

WELL OF COURSE SHE MADE IT UP, BECAUSE SHE IS AN ACTOR.

 

I've seen hundreds of stage shows, where amateur magicians pull out a magic towel, where they can let stuff dissapear and then say stuff like "i got this towel from one of the greatest magicians of india and he got from one of the greatest magicians in Tibet."

 

So, Trixie talking shit here and acting arrogant, isn't bad. It's part of the freaking show.

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WELL OF COURSE SHE MADE IT UP, BECAUSE SHE IS AN ACTOR.

 

I've seen hundreds of stage shows, where amateur magicians pull out a magic towel, where they can let stuff dissapear and then say stuff like "i got this towel from one of the greatest magicians of india and he got from one of the greatest magicians in Tibet."

 

So, Trixie talking shit here and acting arrogant, isn't bad. It's part of the freaking show.

She's not deliberately being an actor, she's pretending to be something she's not. And she did assault the mane six on the challenges so I don't see how they would not get upset about her. She is not a magician in that sense she is claiming to be the best there is. And magicians just do their tricks they don't go around challenging people, boeasting and making a fool out of them. There might be personalities like that but Trixie was not one of them. I'm looking at the video right now and it's evident that she is not a performer in that sense.

 

You need to remember the magic the unicorns use are REAL. Their world is different from our own. If you try and fake magic there you are a fraud.

Edited June 20, 2015 by cider float

[Mesme Rize 15,683]

She's not deliberately being an actor, she's pretending to be something she's not. And she did assault the mane six on the challenges so I don't see how they would not get upset about her. She is not a magician in that sense she is claiming to be the best there is. And magicians just do their tricks they don't go around challenging people, boeasting and making a fool out of them. There might be personalities like that but Trixie was not one of them. I'm looking at the video right now and it's evident that she is not a performer in that sense.

 

Tell you what. We could probably go on for the next 20 pages and i think we would still hammer our heads together, so how about we just agree to disagree?

[cider float 2,538]

You need to remember the magic the unicorns use are REAL. Their world is different from our own. If you try and fake magic there you are a fraud.

[Singe 2,111]

Trixie was a harmless actor boasting an image like a heel wrestler. There is no rule that says a magician can't play as a heel.

Mane 6 took it personally.

Trixie embarrassed them in the challenges.

Snips and Snails along with the Mane 6 was all a conspiracy to destroy Trixie's career.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Singe

[cider float 2,538]

Trixie was a harmless actor boasting an image like a heel wrestler. There is no rule that says a magician can't play as a heel.

Mane 6 took it personally.

Trixie embarrassed them in the challenges.

Snips and Snails along with the Mane 6 was all a conspiracy to destroy Trixie's career.

An fake magician is not that amusing in the world of magic. Though that isn't her career which is obvious, but if I was to play your game and say she was playing out a fake magician and letting everyone know it her career would of flopped before it even started no matter where she performed.

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

I didn't even notice it till someone told me but Trixie was treated horribly in this episode. I don't blame her for wanting to take revenge in Magic Duel.

Think about it. That traveling thing was her home. And it got crushed when the Ursa fell on it. And there was no reason for Twilight's friends to start ganging up on her. Magicians are known to brag and boast. That's what they do. Especially the flashy kind. What reason did Twilight's friends have for wanting to butt in and interfere with her performance? It's like the episode treated her as the bad guy for just doing what magicians do...

[cider float 2,538]

So basically you're saying when Snips and Snails called for Trixie to take care of the Ursa Minor Twilight Sparkle shouldn't have put it to sleep and let it destroy the entire village so Trixie could continue faking.

[Singe 2,111]

Double Standard. Double *bleeping* Standard.Twilight Sparkle was taught to act by engaging in fake magic, brag, and boast to out do the magically enhanced Trixie in Magic Duel.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Singe

[cider float 2,538]

Yeah makes a lot of sense... after Trixie's boasting that got Snips and Snails to want to see if she was for real went and brought the Ursa Minor and yeah let's let the the Ursa Minor destroy Ponyville... even if Twilight didn't do anything Trixie being a fraud came out. Twilight was just trying to fix her problem.

 

Double Standard. Double *bleeping* Standard.Twilight Sparkle was taught to act by engaging in fake magic, brag, and boast to out do the magically enhanced Trixie in Magic Duel.

Done for the purpose of helping her friends from Trixie's toxic pride. Yeah if I would side with two people with gun I would side with the one that is shooting it to protect me not the one trying to shoot me.

Edited June 20, 2015 by cider float