ManaMinori 4,145 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 After decades of Barbie having the same body type, and being considered unrealistic, and a bad standard for little girs to aspire to, Barbie is being made curvy and more realistic. Do you think noodly Equestria girls will get the same treatment? SHOULD they? Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeet 2,027 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 A better question is when are male dolls gonna get different body sizes. And no, eg shouldn't, because it took them long enough to get good looking dolls as it is, since the old ones looked creepy, and the new ones resemble the ponies XD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jest (Inactive) 875 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Do any little girls these age really base their views off of dolls unless they're like 3 years old or something? 3 -Amateur Artist- http://jestwinged.deviantart.com/ Signature by ~Kyoshi~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiratePony 8,475 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Do any little girls these age really base their views off of dolls unless they're like 3 years old or something? They especially don't. Kids are really the ones who don't care. This body image problem is an adult construct, in my opinion. 7 Courtesy of @Sparklefan1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMinori 4,145 February 4, 2016 Author Share February 4, 2016 Do any little girls these age really base their views off of dolls unless they're like 3 years old or something? what 3 year old do you know even understands the pressures of holding themselves to unrealistic body types portrayed by dolls and/ or celebrities? They especially don't. Kids are really the ones who don't care. This body image problem is an adult construct, in my opinion.tweens, teens, AND adults. Not friggin toddlers Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Sadly as I pointed this out in another topic, the artists who draw the characters actually intended them not to be cookie cutter shapes and actually have defined features: http://i.imgur.com/hZs3aAn.png (Sunset has an ass) But the final product removed any of that for cookie cutter body shapes and it will probably stay that way for many reasons: They have already established this universe with 3 films. To "change" it would be difficult without making it come off as jarring. Hasbro is NOT progressive. Contrary to popular belief Hasbro still bases all of their decisions on money and the thought of even losing one bigoted parent's business is too much for them to take. Hasbro would sooner censor something to keep bigots from getting offended over doing something progressive that might cause controversy. Hasbro generally doesn't listen to bronies. THX sometimes does, but Hasbro calls the shots and as we've seen Hasbro has NEVER gone back on a decision because of bronies. To put it bluntly: Hasbro doesn't really care about bronies, they care about their money. Once they stop spending money or threaten Hasbro's other money, Hasbro has no interest in them anymore. If Hasbro even does it now, it'll just be seen as a "Me too!" move. They'll waste all that time and effort doing it and it won't even come off as genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jest (Inactive) 875 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 (edited) what 3 year old do you know even understands the pressures of holding themselves to unrealistic body types portrayed by dolls and/ or celebrities? tweens, teens, AND adults. Not friggin toddlers What kids do you know above 3 - 5 years old that still play with dolls, and if they do why would they're body shape, shape their view on anything. I can't remember any of my friends who had dolls when they were little affecting the way they dressed, p'haps there were some who liked the way they were dressed and bought the same clothes but thats about it. These days parents should be more concerned about kiddies viewing celebrity pictures on their IPAD and what not and basing they're body image off them but all this is just way OTT and sounds more relevant to life 15 years ago Edited February 4, 2016 by Jestwinged -Amateur Artist- http://jestwinged.deviantart.com/ Signature by ~Kyoshi~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba86 1,541 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 but won't making a fat barbie make kids become fat to match the barbie body image? It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyStrike 603 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 but won't making a fat barbie make kids become fat to match the barbie body image? Um, no. Kids would only try to be fat if we say that is the only acceptable idea of beauty(like society says that being thin is). The idea is to present all bodies as beautiful so that kids will be comfortable with whatever weight they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,742 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 (edited) Do any little girls these age really base their views off of dolls unless they're like 3 years old or something? They especially don't. Kids are really the ones who don't care. This body image problem is an adult construct, in my opinion. I'm all for diversity, and I think it's a good thing for the manufacturers of Barbie to do, but the whole "Barbie creates image problems for kids" debate was one I always found to be a load of hot garbage. Throughout my life I've seen hundreds of girls, cousins, nieces and my sister who had a scarily large amount of Barbie dolls, and not once did I ever see a one of the be worried or upset over not looking like Barbie, to them they were just cute toys and had fun with them. To me the whole argument about "Barbie, body image, self-esteem" was made entirely by adults who think the speak for kids, when the reality is kids could care less, to them they're just fun toys and they want to have a good time with them. tweens, teens, AND adults. Not friggin toddlers Of course it won't matter to kids or toddlers. If a tween, teen, or adult worry about their body image, it'll most likely be because of celebrities society constantly puts on a stupid high pedestal, not a toy they they'll have grown out of and not care about anymore Edited February 4, 2016 by Megas 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba86 1,541 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Um, no. Kids would only try to be fat if we say that is the only acceptable idea of beauty(like society says that being thin is). The idea is to present all bodies as beautiful so that kids will be comfortable with whatever weight they are. then why do people say that barbies ruin girls body image if it does not work both ways? It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PictiPie 31 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 I would agree with some of the other comments. I think kids don't care one way or the other. Probably feminists doing most of the complaining. Likely they aren't happy with their own body image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyStrike 603 February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 then why do people say that barbies ruin girls body image if it does not work both ways? Because we live in a society that insists that thinness is the only way to be beautiful. For it to work the other way we would have to have a constant drumbeat that fatness is the only acceptable way to be. But there isn't that, because fat people are underrepresented in media and when they are depicted they get ridiculed. Sure, some shows like Steven Universe are very good at representing fat people, but at large most media is made by thin people for thin people and promotes the idea that fatness is wrong and disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest February 5, 2016 Share February 5, 2016 Um, no. Kids would only try to be fat if we say that is the only acceptable idea of beauty(like society says that being thin is). The idea is to present all bodies as beautiful so that kids will be comfortable with whatever weight they are. So long as we also encourage healthy lifestyles, this is all fine and good to me. Because we live in a society that insists that thinness is the only way to be beautiful. For it to work the other way we would have to have a constant drumbeat that fatness is the only acceptable way to be. But there isn't that, because fat people are underrepresented in media and when they are depicted they get ridiculed. Sure, some shows like Steven Universe are very good at representing fat people, but at large most media is made by thin people for thin people and promotes the idea that fatness is wrong and disgusting. My only issue is what the fat acceptance movement shames skinny people for being skinny. Then we just have the same problem in reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,538 February 7, 2016 Share February 7, 2016 They especially don't. Kids are really the ones who don't care. Thisl body image problem is an adult construct, in my opinion. True especially adults that abuse their bodies during their childhood and balloon up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxsie (Inactive) 1,343 February 7, 2016 Share February 7, 2016 The issue of body image is so much bigger than Barbie. I would even go so far as to say it's not about Barbie at all. When you boil it down, lack of self esteem comes from not being affirmed by a father figure. If you have a good father that let's his daughters know that they are loved and beautiful the way they are, the battle of body image issues is more than half won. Barbie is the result of society's fixation on a cookie cutter idea of beauty -- not the cause of this fixation. If one is to complain about Barbie, then you need to address the whole system. In other words, lay the ax to the root. You would need to change the whole beauty industry. Changing something so minuscule as a doll will change absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. My Johari Window Japanese Word of the Day Today's Kanji (by Tsukuyomi-MLP) Ask Me Anything Sig made by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,538 February 7, 2016 Share February 7, 2016 Barbie or celebrities are very small in terms of influencing body image. It's social situations that speak louder. The dumb people that talk about body image coming from media are mistaken or grew up way too privileged to worry about body image before becoming adults and realizing that body image is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlp13 62 February 9, 2016 Share February 9, 2016 Seriously? ? My 5 year old sister doesn't even mind about the EG's body and I found it realistic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,538 February 10, 2016 Share February 10, 2016 but won't making a fat barbie make kids become fat to match the barbie body image? It'll make them feel it's okay to be fat, ones that do want to reach that body image... well who knows those kids could exist. But most likely they will make the fat one less likable in the show and relegated to being a sidekick or supporting cast or used for comical relief not really giving kids any wish to be like the fat kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discordian 6,015 February 10, 2016 Share February 10, 2016 I'm all for diversity, and I think it's a good thing for the manufacturers of Barbie to do, but the whole "Barbie creates image problems for kids" debate was one I always found to be a load of hot garbage. Throughout my life I've seen hundreds of girls, cousins, nieces and my sister who had a scarily large amount of Barbie dolls, and not once did I ever see a one of the be worried or upset over not looking like Barbie, to them they were just cute toys and had fun with them. To me the whole argument about "Barbie, body image, self-esteem" was made entirely by adults who think the speak for kids, when the reality is kids could care less, to them they're just fun toys and they want to have a good time with them. Of course it won't matter to kids or toddlers. If a tween, teen, or adult worry about their body image, it'll most likely be because of celebrities society constantly puts on a stupid high pedestal, not a toy they they'll have grown out of and not care about anymore I will never be He-Man. I can be like Patrick Star though. SELF-ESTEEM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeSock2018 325 February 10, 2016 Share February 10, 2016 Do any little girls these age really base their views off of dolls unless they're like 3 years old or something? Yes. Theories like Cultivation Theory and Social Construction theory support the idea that people (including adults) base their worldviews based on what they are constantly exposed to in the media. This includes movies, tv, advertisements, and video games. Media, in general. This could also include toys because the studies show that people really do base their beliefs on what they see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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