Death Battle is losing it again

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Just after they explained Deadpool can kill the entire Marvel Universe they put him up with Pinkie? WTF? I know that one with Deadpool killing off Marvel is non-canon but why'd they bring it up then?

 

Also Pinkie is not a match for Deadpool's 4th wall abilities, Pinkie's 4th wall abilities are rated children, Deadpool's 4th wall abilities is rated R. How is Pinkie going to handle that?

Edited December 15, 2016 by cider float

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

 

 

Also Pinkie is not a match for Deadpool's 4th wall abilities, Pinkie's 4th wall abilities are rated children, Deadpool's 4th wall abilities is rated R. How is Pinkie going to handle that?

 

Change the Death Battle rating to Y-7 is a suggestion I've seen. Anytime Deadpool tries to change it back she stops him, and he can't kill her as easily with that rating, has to be creative to get past the rating's restrictions.

 

 Or, they won't kill each other at all, they can both break the 4th wall, so they might just totally ignore the rules, irritate the show hosts, and become besties because why not?

 

I don't think this is going to be a very serious battle at all, because if it's meant to be one it's a massive mismatch. 

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Change the Death Battle rating to Y-7 is a suggestion I've seen. Anytime Deadpool tries to change it back she stops him, and he can't kill her as easily with that rating, has to be creative to get past the rating's restrictions.

 

 Or, they won't kill each other at all, they can both break the 4th wall, so they might just totally ignore the rules, irritate the show hosts, and become besties because why not?

 

I don't think this is going to be a very serious battle at all, because if it's meant to be one it's a massive mismatch. 

But you got to remember who the writers are, Pinkie's writers will never let that happen. Writers are still king. Even 4th wall powers have a limitation by ESRB rating.

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But you got to remember who the writers are, Pinkie's writers will never let that happen. Writers are still king. Even 4th wall powers have a limitation by ESRB rating.

 

 

Pinkie's writers? As in the show writers? They aren't part of the death battle, the only writers Pinkie has to answer to in the battle are the DB ones.

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Pinkie's writers? As in the show writers? They aren't part of the death battle, the only writers Pinkie has to answer to in the battle are the DB ones.

 

Of course they have to answer to them, the writers are the ones that made all the rules Pinkie is stuck with. There is no evidence Pinkie has killed anyone in the show for starters so how the hell is she going to kill Deadpool? The harshest thing she's ever done is sent Tirek to a different location and that's with the power of the mane six.

 

Remember the writers have 4th wall powers that completely counter the characters because they set the rules to how far their 4th wall powers can go. If Pinkie Pie is represented any differently than Pinkie from MLP than that isn't Pinkie anymore but an invention of Death Battle which if they're profiting off of, than Hasbro can magically use their 5th wall powers of copywrite and sue Screwattack.

Edited December 15, 2016 by cider float

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Of course they have to answer to them, the writers are the ones that made all the rules Pinkie is stuck with. There is no evidence Pinkie has killed anyone in the show for starters so how the hell is she going to kill Deadpool? The harshest thing she's ever done is sent Tirek to a different location and that's with the power of the mane six.

 

Death Battle removes restrictions against killing. It doesn't matter if Pinkie wouldn't kill, or if she hasn't killed before, or whatever. If they keep the Death Battle serious, both Pinkie and Deadpool will be aiming to kill each other. As for how she'd kill Deadpool...If they take it seriously, she probably won't, Deadpool will probably win. With his regeneration, the only way she could kill him really is to completely destroy him.

 

 Changing the rating to Y-7 if she has that ability would only buy her some time at best, and keep him from easily killing her.

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Death Battle removes restrictions against killing. It doesn't matter if Pinkie wouldn't kill, or if she hasn't killed before, or whatever. If they keep the Death Battle serious, both Pinkie and Deadpool will be aiming to kill each other. As for how she'd kill Deadpool...If they take it seriously, she probably won't, Deadpool will probably win. With his regeneration, the only way she could kill him really is to completely destroy him.

 

 Changing the rating to Y-7 if she has that ability would only buy her some time at best, and keep him from easily killing her.

Remember the writers have 4th wall powers that completely counter the characters because they set the rules to how far their 4th wall powers can go. If Pinkie Pie is represented any differently than Pinkie from MLP than that isn't Pinkie anymore but an invention of Death Battle which if they're profiting off of, than Hasbro can magically use their 5th wall powers of copywrite and sue Screwattack.

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If Pinkie Pie is represented any differently than Pinkie from MLP than that isn't Pinkie anymore but an invention of Death Battle which if they're profiting off of, than Hasbro can magically use their 5th wall powers of copywrite and sue Screwattack.

 

No they can't, that's utterly ridiculous. Ponies are represented in ways not like the show every single day with plenty of videos, games, fanfics and pictures. They aren't going to sue Screwattack just because "Pinkie was out of character!" or whatever.

 

 Anyway, it's in death battle's rules. Restrictions against killing are removed. The entire point is to see which character would win in a death battle scenario.

 

 

 

Remember the writers have 4th wall powers that completely counter the characters because they set the rules to how far their 4th wall powers can go.

 

Yeah, and the writers might make it so that Pinkie and Deadpool can completely resist the rules of the show, because it's funny. It's a match between two 4th wall breakers, the entire point of this episode, whether they have a serious ending or not, is probably for laughs. 

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No they can't, that's utterly ridiculous. Ponies are represented in ways not like the show every single day with plenty of videos, games, fanfics and pictures. They aren't going to sue Screwattack just because "Pinkie was out of character!" or whatever.

 

 Anyway, it's in death battle's rules. Restrictions against killing are removed. The entire point is to see which character would win in a death battle scenario.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, and the writers might make it so that Pinkie and Deadpool can completely resist the rules of the show, because it's funny. It's a match between two 4th wall breakers, the entire point of this episode, whether they have a serious ending or not, is probably for laughs. 

No they cannot. Remember Death Battle has to do their research right, if the characters are represented incorrectly from previous points of evidence than they fail. They have to attempt to have everything down that correlates with the original source material they can't start making things up.

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No they cannot. Remember Death Battle has to do their research right, if the characters are represented incorrectly from previous points of evidence than they fail. They have to attempt to have everything down that correlates with the original source material they can't start making things up.

 

I never said they can start making things up, the fans will tear them apart if they do that, they need to do their research of course.

 

 But restrictions against killing are removed for the purposes of the battles, even though Pinkie probably wouldn't be willing to kill someone, she will be for the fight, that's been in the rules since the start. Otherwise, yes, they should keep her accurate to her canon self.

 

 By restrictions by the way, I don't mean physical ones. I don't mean they'll give Pinkie killing moves she doesn't usually have, I mean things like moral restrictions. Batman usually tries to avoid killing, but he killed Captain America just fine in that Death Battle.

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I never said they can start making things up, the fans will tear them apart if they do that, they need to do their research of course.

 

 But restrictions against killing are removed for the purposes of the battles, even though Pinkie probably wouldn't be willing to kill someone, she will be for the fight, that's been in the rules since the start. Otherwise, yes, they should keep her accurate to her canon self.

 

 By restrictions by the way, I don't mean physical ones. I don't mean they'll give Pinkie killing moves she doesn't usually have, I mean things like moral restrictions. Batman usually tries to avoid killing, but he killed Captain America just fine in that Death Battle.

Killing is very non-canon that is not found in the source material and is very unlikely to happen if Death Battle is doing it right. This is one reason I heavily criticize the Rainbow Dash vs. Starscream battle. Never has Rainbow Dash demolished a living creature like than neither has she eaten something like a ball of energy, she never had a tendency to eat any random alien object like that. Neither has Rainbow Dash actually done the Buccaneer move or whatever it's called, neither is the Buccaneer move ever implied to be some kind of attack technique or anything far as she's said it's just a move to awe the audience... and to repeat she never performed that move she just said she did.

Edited December 15, 2016 by cider float

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

Totally. Pinkie Pie's 4th wall breaks usually come randomly, and it's not like she accesses them on purpose. Unlike Deadpool who plays with the 4th wall like a toy. 

 

Plus, you know, the huge difference in fighting experience, weaponry, and durability.

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Killing is very non-canon that is not found in the source material and is very unlikely to happen if Death Battle is doing it right.

 

Death is canon in the MLP verse, we've seen a funeral during the song in Hearts and Hooves day, Sombra got blown up in-show, we've seen the skull of that one monster who stole the Griffon idol, one of the comics even straight up uses the word "Killing".

 

 For the purpose of the battle, Pinkie will be capable and willing to kill Deadpool, otherwise that tiny, tiny, tiny chance she has of winning ceases to exist, because then you've made it literally impossible for her to win. Unless they go the "FRIENDSHIP" route for laughs, which is what I'm expecting to happen. 

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Death is canon in the MLP verse, we've seen a funeral during the song in Hearts and Hooves day, Sombra got blown up in-show, we've seen the skull of that one monster who stole the Griffon idol, one of the comics even straight up uses the word "Killing".

 

 For the purpose of the battle, Pinkie will be capable and willing to kill Deadpool, otherwise that tiny, tiny, tiny chance she has of winning ceases to exist, because then you've made it literally impossible for her to win. Unless they go the "FRIENDSHIP" route for laughs, which is what I'm expecting to happen. 

Death maybe but not killing there's a big difference. Nothing in the source material shows this.

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Death maybe but not killing there's a big difference. Nothing in the source material shows this.

 

We've seen death, we've seen fighting, we've even seen a war. That somepony has been killed by another at some point is a pretty reasonable assumption to make. Yes, we haven't seen killing in show because of the rating, but that won't stop them from using it in the fight. Saying, "But killing hasn't been shown in canon!" is just getting to a ridiculous level of need for things to line up with source material.

 

 Anyway, they're using the comics as well as the show as shown in the preview, and it's heavily hinted that Chrysalis kills a kitten in the comics, so there, close enough.

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We've seen death, we've seen fighting, we've even seen a war. That somepony has been killed by another at some point is a pretty reasonable assumption to make. Yes, we haven't seen killing in show because of the rating, but that won't stop them from using it in the fight. Saying, "But killing hasn't been shown in canon!" is just getting to a ridiculous level of need for things to line up with source material.

 

 Anyway, they're using the comics as well as the show as shown in the preview, and it's heavily hinted that Chrysalis kills a kitten in the comics, so there, close enough.

Pinkie Pie killing isn't canon, she also hasn't used her 4th wall powers to kill anyone or reach that point of using her 4th wall powers for sinister things. She has done some funny things with it battling the Changelings but all her lasers are set on stun not kill. Also how does she react to a super powerful villain? If she can be set to challenge Deadpool she would have killed Tirek, Discord, Sombra, stopped Starlight's little time travel fest and killed her, then also killed off Chrysalis. But she didn't, the fact of the matter is she didn't have to have to have run out with the mane six to use the EoH she could have taken care of them all right there and then. The fact that she is restricted to do so is canon as the writers have written or she cannot extend her 4th wall powers to make them kill. You violate the source material than you no longer represent Pinkie Pie.

 

First of all Chrysalis killed a kitten not Pinkie Pie, second of all comics is not original source material. That would mean Dark Knight move's Bane is canon which makes no sense since Bane didn't have respiratory problems in the original source material.

 

There was another 4th waller the writers would not allow to kill.

 

 

The Disney's genie original source material is that he can't kill simple as that.

 

Any new writers that want to write on the character needs permission of the original writer and second of all need to follow the original source material. All which if Death Battle doesn't follow their research fails. I would say the choice of another MLP character in their show is a failure to begin with.

Edited December 15, 2016 by cider float

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My brother watches this and he knows I like mlp some but im still trying to hide my enjoyment of the show/fandom, so, awkward, will prolly end up watching it with him. 

 

Also maybe they would reference cupcakes? Idk lol. But DeadPool would survive the cupcakes treatment lol.

 

But DeadPool vs Pinkie, Pinkie at best predicts all his moves, idk if she has any techniques that can translate into killing. So the fight might be very one-sided but they are prolly doing it because everyone asked for it in the comment section for ages. So even if she doesn't win it might still be entertaining. Actually it'd be funny if she ate him, but that won't happen because they didn't reference how much she can swallow at once and it'd be a repeat gag at that point if they did that cuz RD ate the other guy's soulspark.

 

I imagine at best she ends up tying him up and interrogating him. *shrugs* Also just because she is sturdy vs impacts, is she sturdy vs his katana? (unintentional double entendre) like its super sharp, or will they calculate the velocity of pound cake punching her and the friction or surface area of the impact and determine it would've cut normal people, thus she is immune to his swords and bullets? I mean unless they have dead pool a lightsaber that can cut through adamantium, she might be immune, if not already dodging everything.

 

But she can probably pull random stuff out of her mane for a win if you ask me, otherwise yup, she gonna die lol. OH wait, they DO have her eating rocks, she WILL eat him lol. 

This will be hilarious https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JMjdeiWaAZY/maxresdefault.jpglol he will die in a second if he hides in a cake.

I am entirely amused right now 

All it will take is for DeadPool to say bite me when she tries interrogating him like she did with spike during party of one then she will oblige and he will die lol.

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The chances of Pinkie defeating the likes of Deadpool are incredibly slim, but I think the point behind this battle is to showcase two of the greatest manipulators of reality in recent memory. Still, I think this is very lopsided especially if Deadpool is going to rely on his more questionable means of breaking the fourth wall.

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Not sure how rated R is any better than rated 'children'. Death Battle is not really supposed to be taken seriously.

[JeyWiz 1,097]

Two fourth wall breakers. Pink vs Red! Man vs Pony! Kid-friendly vs Mature! This is gonna be tough, even though it is probably gonna be one of those joke death battles like Vegeta vs Mewtwo. Whoever wins, the haters lose. XD

 

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

Unless this is the darkfic version of Pinkie, she cant kill Deadpool or even thinking about that. I guess this battle Deadpool will be the only one who try to kill Pinkie, and somehow fail to do so or a bland one-sided battle and i dont like one-sided battle. Poor Pinkie will be sliced in half by Deadpool katana, damn it, Screw Attack should choose participants with at least 1/0 kill/death ratio.

Edited December 15, 2016 by Lambdadelta

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Pinkie Pie killing isn't canon, she also hasn't used her 4th wall powers to kill anyone or reach that point of using her 4th wall powers for sinister things.

 

It does NOT matter if she hasn't killed in canon, it doesn't matter if she wouldn't kill in canon. That is ignored for the purpose of a death battle. I never said she'd use her 4th wall powers to kill anyway.

 

The point of the show is "Who would win a Death Battle?", so they analyze their weapons, skills and abilities to find out. Pinkie has kicked things and shot cannons, so she theoretically could "Kill" even if she hasn't in the show and wouldn't, that is good enough. Complaining she wouldn't do that in canon is pointless, everyone knows she wouldn't. Batman wouldn't just up and kill Captain America either.

 

I'm not arguing my point of view, I am pointing out what the actual rules of Death Battle are. Restrictions against killing are removed, it's been in the shows rules, since day one. If they have a moral reason to not kill? Removed. If they're from a series that normally wouldn't show killing? Doesn't matter.

 

 

 

If she can be set to challenge Deadpool she would have killed Tirek, Discord, Sombra, stopped Starlight's little time travel fest and killed her, then also killed off Chrysalis.

 

 

 She's not set to challenge Deadpool, I don't think she is capable of taking him down and I never argued she was, if they decide to make the battle accurate, she will get sliced into shreds.

 

 

 

First of all Chrysalis killed a kitten not Pinkie Pie, second of all comics is not original source material.

 

 

They're using the comics, you can't argue with me against that, because I'm not the one who decided it. They show the comics in the preview, they are using them. They consider them canon enough, just like Hasbro.

 

 

 

Any new writers that want to write on the character needs permission of the original writer and second of all need to follow the original source material.

 

 

No they don't, Death Battle isn't a "Legit" thing, it's an internet show. They aren't like "Hey, Hasbro, we want to use Pinkie!", they don't have to do that.

 

 

 

I would say the choice of another MLP character in their show is a failure to begin with.

 

It honestly feels like you're arguing all this simply because you don't want Pinkie used, and you're trying to find any justification for it. It's fine, I get it. If they make this a serious match it's stupid because it's a huge mismatch, Pinkie has no chance of winning. But they're doing it, oh well. 

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Of course they have to answer to them, the writers are the ones that made all the rules Pinkie is stuck with. There is no evidence Pinkie has killed anyone in the show for starters so how the hell is she going to kill Deadpool? The harshest thing she's ever done is sent Tirek to a different location and that's with the power of the mane six.

 

Remember the writers have 4th wall powers that completely counter the characters because they set the rules to how far their 4th wall powers can go. If Pinkie Pie is represented any differently than Pinkie from MLP than that isn't Pinkie anymore but an invention of Death Battle which if they're profiting off of, than Hasbro can magically use their 5th wall powers of copywrite and sue Screwattack.

This second paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. Theres no document that clearly says "pinkie pie has these 4th wall abilities, but not this". You either have 4th wall, or you don't. To the degree that there are levels of fourth wall powers, It's a spectrum based thing, and where they are on the spectrum is interpreted by the viewer, not the creator (unless there is such a document detailing exactly what pinkie can and can't do). You seem to be arguing that pinkie can only do EXACTLY what she did in the show, but what death battle does and is going to do is make assessments about what she CAN do, based on what shes done, and with killing removed (the limitation on killing that is).

 

As for the first arguement... they already used rainbow to kill starscream sooo

Edited December 15, 2016 by trademark2

[Castle Bleck 19,376]

Or, they won't kill each other at all, they can both break the 4th wall, so they might just totally ignore the rules, irritate the show hosts, and become besties because why not?

 

After so many lazy, @$$pull victories/defeats lately, that would be such a refreshing change of pace.

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

 

 

fter so many lazy, @$$pull victories/defeats lately, that would be such a refreshing change of pace.

 

Pretty much, though like I mentioned earlier, Deadpool Vs Pinkie feels like such a mismatch. DP should win easily if it's serious, so then there's nothing really interesting here, it's not even much of a challenge. If they go down that route, it'll feel like the fight was picked just to see a pony die.

 

 Or, if Pinkie won it'd feel ridiculous and unbelievable most likely, unless they have some seriously smart reasoning I'm unaware of, which I doubt. So, a silly friendship ending would be the best option.