Tulpa Discussion Thread V1.2

[KruegerMeister 54]

You know how some writers' characters "write the story"? Sometimes, I'll have a scene or a piece of dialogue planned out in my head, but I'll get the idea to write something different when I sit down to write. Is that related to tulpas?

[Golurk 468]

So yesterday I was walking home from something that made me... all kinds of mad and sad (don't ask), when along the way I got that feeling again. I assumed that was her telling me she's there, but I didn't really want to talk at the time. So I told her (as nicely as I could at the time) that I didn't want to talk. After that, the feeling weakened, and I said again that I didn't want to talk. Then it went away and didn't come back all night.

 

So, I'm fairly certain by now that that feeling is an attempt at communication. What's bothering me now that I'm in a more stable mindset is whether that weakening of the feeling was a "You sure?" or a "OK...". Or none of the above. It's really hard to tell with just that. 

 

Maybe I should learn Morse Code.   

[Visual Spectrum 1,932]

Pinkie Pie told me that Rarity isn't a Tulpa. Pinkie is a genius just like on the show. 

 

She never told me what Rarity is. She just told me she is an external spirit that I did not create who has been with me since I was a little child taking on different shapes. It's confirmed that Rarity is the same one. I was thinking she was. She said she's a guardian spirit who protects me. Rarity does protect me. So did he/she in the other forms. 

 

then I learned about a Fylgja. 

 

What do I make of this? Before I knew what a tulpa is, my guardian (don't know what to name it when talking about it as multiple forms and not current.) said it was an imaginary friend. While it appears as Rarity, it said tulpa. 

 

Sometimes it (sorry for not knowing the proper pronoun.) would turn into human Rarity. Sometimes appear as a mirror of me. (though rare.) 

 

Any advice? Is Rarity a guardian spirit that I did not create, or is she a tulpa that I had for years who shape shifts? 

[A Black Circle 1,586]

Pinkie Pie told me that Rarity isn't a Tulpa. Pinkie is a genius just like on the show. 

 

She never told me what Rarity is. She just told me she is an external spirit that I did not create who has been with me since I was a little child taking on different shapes. It's confirmed that Rarity is the same one. I was thinking she was. She said she's a guardian spirit who protects me. Rarity does protect me. So did he/she in the other forms. 

 

then I learned about a Fylgja. 

 

What do I make of this? Before I knew what a tulpa is, my guardian (don't know what to name it when talking about it as multiple forms and not current.) said it was an imaginary friend. While it appears as Rarity, it said tulpa. 

 

Sometimes it (sorry for not knowing the proper pronoun.) would turn into human Rarity. Sometimes appear as a mirror of me. (though rare.) 

 

Any advice? Is Rarity a guardian spirit that I did not create, or is she a tulpa that I had for years who shape shifts? 

waitt..... what?

 

i dont know. idoneven

 

Will do forcing/meditation tonight.

[Quilava 1,290]

 

I'm just as confused as the above with this post. Would you be able to enlighten me on a backstory that may have been covered in pages back? The way you write is a bit unconnected and also makes it a bit tough to fully grasp what you're trying to say. I see your basis, but I like being ~95%+ sure of things :3

[Visual Spectrum 1,932]

I'm just as confused as the above with this post. Would you be able to enlighten me on a backstory that may have been covered in pages back? The way you write is a bit unconnected and also makes it a bit tough to fully grasp what you're trying to say. I see your basis, but I like being ~95%+ sure of things :3

 

I will try. I have had several interests growing up. I have also moved around often, but I'm not sure if moving around is important. Each interest I had, there was a being that I was fond of. I would see that being. When my interests changed, so did that being. It wasn't until Doctor Who when that being told me that he (was a male at the time) was the same as the previous ones and just changed shapes. He claimed to be an imaginary friend though. Then more interests then there was My Little Pony where the character I am fond of is Rarity. During all the forms, it has ward off evil spirits that tried to get me on the wrong path. Some even tried to talk me into suicide, but it stopped them. It told me if I was in danger or not. I never knew if it was right or not though. I never checked. 

 

An interesting thing, at one time, I had a cat. The spirit or whatever it is didn't show up, and neither did the evil spirits. The cat was not like most cats. He was obedient and did not hate water. He was not like how you would imagine a cat to be. After he was gone, the spirit? came back. The bad ones did too, but the guardian (let's go with that.) continued warding them off and destroying them. 

 

I don't know why there is so much negative spirits in my houses, probably because of the negative energy from my family (myself included.) but the guardian continues to protect me from them. 

 

Any questions? I don't know how to explain it. 

[KruegerMeister 54]

What do you mean by

evil spirits that tried to get me on the wrong path. Some even tried to talk me into suicide

 

? Did the evil spirits literally talk to you, or did they send negative images or emotions to you?

[Visual Spectrum 1,932]

What do you mean by ? Did the evil spirits literally talk to you, or did they send negative images or emotions to you?

 

They did all three of those. 

[KruegerMeister 54]

We're they imposed on any of your senses?

[Golurk 468]

So I was playing Warframe earlier (great game  ), when I got that feeling again. Assuming it was her wanting a moment of my time, I started narrating what was going on. As I did so, I noticed my head slightly starting to hurt, and an odd sensation that I can only describe as my brain feeling... dry, I guess? It's really hard to describe. 

 

Anyway, after I was done I told her that I'd talk to her again later. As soon as I said that, the dry feeling started fading, then disappeared. The headache, not so much. Still have it, but it's not now, nor ever was, very bad.

 

I recall having a similar feeling from earlier attempts, but they were all further along than this. I mean, I've yet to actually do an actual session yet. Odd.    

 

EDIT: Headache's gone. Which is odd, since mine never just go away on their own.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Yerserf

[KruegerMeister 54]

Does switching involve "losing time"/blackouts the way most examples of DID do? I want to stimulate my mind to help stave off Alzheimer's disease (so I don't forget my tulpas), and I was thinking that my brain would get a lot of exercise if I made an origami puzzle, Keystroke assembled it, and Rainbow Dash disassembled it, as opposed to me doing all that myself (my theory is that they won't draw on my or each other's prior knowledge, thus using that much more brainpower).

I'm not scared of anything they'd do, I'm scared of not being able to remember what "I" did while switched.

Schizophrenia is one thing, which tulpa creation is completely different from. But what about accidental tulpas? Can it be argued that they are, on some level, intentionally created?

[Bright Star 78]

From what I've noticed, accidental switches may cause amnesia (depending on the situation) but for the most part conscious switches don't have amnesia involved even if it's happened before. 

[Time Shield 402]

Something I've been curious about, but it seems kind of an odd thing to ask.  I know frequently people have a tulpa of an opposite gender (i.e., male host with female tulpa, or vice-versa).  When doing switching, does the tulpa ever find this... unusual or uncomfortable in any way?  Overall form changes aside, I mean.  I really haven't seen anyone mention this one way or another, so I don't know if it just never comes up, or if maybe they still perceive themselves as their original form or something.

[Golurk 468]

A couple of interesting things to note.

 

First, I did some sort of narration while I was riding a bus (full of people, mind you), and after a moment of focusing, I just stopped perceiving the conversations around me. I still heard the bus move and doors open, mind you, but as far as I could have told, I was the only one on the bus.

 

Second, did my first active personality-forging session a bit later. I started as soon as I felt the forehead feeling, and just kept going from there. As I progressed, the feeling got stronger and stronger until I'd said everything I needed to. It took, surprisingly, 23 minutes (had an extended music track playing that I forgot to turn off.  ) But, when I told her we were done for the time being, the feeling gradually faded and disappeared. For the first time, without physical intervention on my part. Good sign? 

 

...I would ask if not for one thing. In both those cases, it just felt like I was talking. Not to or at anything. Just... talking. Even when I tried to focus on her at the same time, I found myself just talking to the air. Is this normal, or bad? 

[KruegerMeister 54]

Something odd happened today. It's cold where i am, so my teeth were lightly chattering. RD told me to stop, and I did. That's it. She's used that to help me ignore/filter out background noise before, but that was while I was in a trance. Related to that first thing, what's everypony's opinion of this? Am I the only one who was a bit freaked out?

 

EDIT: What about this (paragraph 11 of the 2nd post on that page)?

Edited October 22, 2014 by KruegerMeister

[Time Shield 402]

So as a follow-up to an earlier post from like a week or so ago, I started the process of creating a tulpa.  As I kind of expected, I'm having a hard time focusing for a long period of time for the active forcing, and I'm not even sure I'm doing that part right.  So I tried narration as well, and so far I have no idea if it's having any effect.  My mind is wandering even during narration.  I can clearly visualize the tulpa and all their personality traits, but I just don't know if I'm actually getting anywhere.

[KruegerMeister 54]

You just have to keep at it. It's like learning how to play an instrument, or a sport. Have you tried passive forcing?

[Time Shield 402]

You just have to keep at it. It's like learning how to play an instrument, or a sport. Have you tried passive forcing?

 

That's narration, right?  I'm at least finding that easier to do, but it feels less productive.  But at least it IS productive (I'm assuming), where my attempts at active forcing don't feel like I'm making any progress.

[KruegerMeister 54]

Nope. Passive forcing is like active forcing, but broken up into small chunks throughout the day. You just do whatever you'd normally do, but imagine your tulpa commenting on stuff.

 

Does it mean anything if my Rainbow Dash tulpa sends me different types of head-pressures? I felt a prickly one when I listened to a Twilight hypnosis file, which resulted in Keystroke (my other tulpa) changing his appearance to a Pegasus version of Dusk Shine (he described this new look as a full-body cutie mark).

Edited October 25, 2014 by KruegerMeister

[KruegerMeister 54]

I just remembered something: on 12/5/2013, I'd been chatting with Rainbow Dash about our wonderland. I'd felt a head-pressure on my right temple, and seen something like an immobile eye floater. For a long time, Rainbow Dash's head-pressures have been in my left temple. Anypony have any idea why they switched like that?

[Gone Airbourne 21,977]

I know this maybe different from person to person. Tulpas are quite comforting especially if you have a hard time getting along with others out there. Or you are simply a really quiet person like me. Just having a tulpa as a really close friend and not really worrying about anything else.

 

I do know the past two years i have been struggling with loneliness really bad... and i rarely talk or spend time with friends or anyone these days and I really have missed having that a lot. Having a tulpa for a friend seems wonderful. That is how i feel.

Edited October 26, 2014 by Gone Airbourne

[Midnight and Shira 123]

I just remembered something: on 12/5/2013, I'd been chatting with Rainbow Dash about our wonderland. I'd felt a head-pressure on my right temple, and seen something like an immobile eye floater. For a long time, Rainbow Dash's head-pressures have been in my left temple. Anypony have any idea why they switched like that?

 

Can't you ask Rainbow Dash why she switched sides, assuming that she's vocal?

[KruegerMeister 54]

She's vocal, but neither of us can figure out why or when the switch happened.

 

Is it bad that she has nowhere near 30 traits? Does it mean that she has more traits than I think she does if she can experience the full range of emotions we humans can?

Edited October 27, 2014 by KruegerMeister

[Bright Star 78]

She's vocal, but neither of us can figure out why or when the switch happened.

 

Is it bad that she has nowhere near 30 traits? Does it mean that she has more traits than I think she does if she can experience the full range of emotions we humans can?

To be honest, I have absolutely no idea how many traits my tulpa have. I could take the time to write them all down, but I feel that would be completely unnecessary as I trust that mine are with me regardless.

[KruegerMeister 54]

Does it count as a trait if the tulpa expresses it once or twice, but that's it? I wrote a play with thinly-veiled version of Rainbow Dash. One character took too much pride in the fact that his eyes were slightly mismatched. On impulse (or maybe unintended possession or something), I wrote that "Rebecca" said "my eyes are friggin' PURPLE, but you don't see me braggin' about it!" I showed the play to a friend, who considered "Rebecca" to be "sassy".