Is magic better for jobs in Equestria?

[Simcity11100 772]

Does Magic dominate every other pony's job in Equestria? If you think so, then please say so and state why you would think that and if not, then do the same, state why.

 

I think so, because in apple bucking season, you could clearly see her take so many apples from a lot of trees in a short time and put them away in the buckets, then you look at sewing and you can see the rarity can make a lot of dresses in a week compared to a non magic user who takes like 3 weeks at the least to make. You can also see in the super squeezy cider 6000 which is powered by magic could out run the apple family which is non magic using.

[HomuraBL 851]

Magic is better for jobs. Twilight even said that most unicorns don't even learn a lot of magic and instead focus on magic spells that fit their job.

[Fizz. 1,078]

I can't remember where I say the chart, but it showed how ponies work in a feudal system. Unicorns would be considered the Clergy, providing "spiritual" (in this case magical) protection, Pegasi were the Nobility providing physical protection (from weather), and earth ponies did the dirty work by growing food.

 

Though Hearth's Warming Eve is more accurate for this, the modern day ponies still show that they operate by this system.

[Fox 5,330]

The only restriction to a unicorns magic, is that they only can perform a few spells that reflect their cutie mark. Twilight is different because she can perform many spells through her studying. Rarity only has a few that benefit her skills. Like finding gems, and telekinesis, but it seems telekinesis can be used with most unicorns magic. However, we've only seen Rarity, Trixie, and Twilight use it. Maybe some unicorns can't use telekinesis.

 

No, magic is not best for Equestria, because it all depends on the cutie marks. Which indicates what kind of job they should be doing.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Fox

[HomuraBL 851]

Maybe some unicorns can't use telekinesis.

 

 

 

Actually you are correct. Twilight said, in addition to the unicorns learning magic that reflects one's cutie mark, that some unicorns don't learn magic it all. (Also its called levitation spell in show, but I guess its the same thing).

Edited July 23, 2012 by Bandana RaccoonBLee

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

I actually believe that all ponies have inherit magic that lays dormant inside themselves. Unicorns are able to use this magic through their horns as a medium for their power; the cutie mark tells you the actual take on what they are capable of.

 

As for Pegasi and Earth ponies, their take on magic may be dormant, but it is used in a sort of use I like to call "skills" They apply their dormant energy through raw strength or as an additional coated layer of a sort of unseen shielding around a pony if they are damaged. For instance, Rainbow Dash may apply her dormant energy through her raw speed that she's training. Also Pegasi have the cloud walking ability along with a control over such clouds.

 

Earth ponies may have a better understanding of the land that others do not such as Granny Smith being the one to fully understand the Zap Apples and to pass it down to family. Or pinkie transferring all her energy to an overabundance of pure unadulterated physical energy, sort of like a caffeinated jive 24/7.

 

This is my take on the whole magic system used in the show. It makes things more evened out with this in mind, don't you think?

[thegoodhen 698]

I have to admit that I really liked Twilights trolling where she, at the end of "Applebuck season," after Applejack was totally exhausted, just picked all the apples with t/k.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

Magic, I think can make a lot of jobs easier, but if that unicorn does not have full control over their magic it just may make a mess.

 

Like magic may be good for lifting a hole bunch of appeals, but would be for like baking cakes. That is something that would take time, maybe.

[Simcity11100 772]

Well, as far as I can tell, a cutie mark has nothing to do with what job you have, because if you look at Rarity's cutie mark, it's three gems, but yet she does sewing as a occupation, and if her cutie mark were to fall with sewing then wouldn't it be something along the lines of a thread and a needle, Twilight is a librarian, but yet she has stars as a cutie mark, and if the cutie mark matched her job it would be something like 3 books. Rainbow Dash likes to go really fast, but her occupation is being a part of the weather team, if we were to match the cutie mark with the occupation, it would be along the lines of a cloud. "In the series, numerous evidence has shown that the cutie marks appearance will only take place if the pony acknowledges their talent". - My little pony Friendship is Magic wikia

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

Well, as far as I can tell, a cutie mark has nothing to do with what job you have, because if you look at Rarity's cutie mark, it's three gems, but yet she does sewing as a occupation, and if her cutie mark were to fall with sewing then wouldn't it be something along the lines of a thread and a needle, Twilight is a librarian, but yet she has stars as a cutie mark, and if the cutie mark matched her job it would be something like 3 books. Rainbow Dash likes to go really fast, but her occupation is being a part of the weather team, if we were to match the cutie mark with the occupation, it would be along the lines of a cloud. "In the series, numerous evidence has shown that the cutie marks appearance will only take place if the pony acknowledges their talent". - My little pony Friendship is Magic wikia

 

Just because their cutie mark represents something doesn't mean they can't go on to do other things. Rarity's special talent is gems. That's probably because of her magic talent kicking in at that young age. Doesn't mean she can't go off and enjoy making garments for her career; she in fact still creates many with the gems. Twilight Sparkles may be a "librarian" as you put it but she continuously studies magic as that is who she is. If you read my post up above, that is how I actually feel on the whole magic ordeal in the darn show.

[CommadorTheCyborgPony 53]

I actually believe that all ponies have inherit magic that lays dormant inside themselves. Unicorns are able to use this magic through their horns as a medium for their power; the cutie mark tells you the actual take on what they are capable of.

 

As for Pegasi and Earth ponies, their take on magic may be dormant, but it is used in a sort of use I like to call "skills" They apply their dormant energy through raw strength or as an additional coated layer of a sort of unseen shielding around a pony if they are damaged. For instance, Rainbow Dash may apply her dormant energy through her raw speed that she's training. Also Pegasi have the cloud walking ability along with a control over such clouds.

 

Earth ponies may have a better understanding of the land that others do not such as Granny Smith being the one to fully understand the Zap Apples and to pass it down to family. Or pinkie transferring all her energy to an overabundance of pure unadulterated physical energy, sort of like a caffeinated jive 24/7.

 

This is my take on the whole magic system used in the show. It makes things more evened out with this in mind, don't you think?

 

Very similar to what my perspective of magic is, exept i dont think earth ponys have magic in them, if so its a very little amount like as you said, PinkiPie, but i think that Earth ponys cant take magic as well as Pegesi or Unicorns, thus making them hyper like PinkiPie, and even if they do gain control over that small amount they dont use it that often.

[Simcity11100 772]

Just because their cutie mark represents something doesn't mean they can't go on to do other things. Rarity's special talent is gems. That's probably because of her magic talent kicking in at that young age. Doesn't mean she can't go off and enjoy making garments for her career; she in fact still creates many with the gems. Twilight Sparkles may be a "librarian" as you put it but she continuously studies magic as that is who she is. If you read my post up above, that is how I actually feel on the whole magic ordeal in the darn show.

 

I never said That they couldn't do something that their cutie mark represents, I just said it had nothing to do with what their occupation is and what it would look like if we matched their occupation, and if you're going to tell me what you wanted me to say and not what I actually said, then you might as well go back and read my post again; I read your post and made sure I read it to my self loud and clear before I typed my sentences.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

I never said That they couldn't do something that their cutie mark represents, I just said it had nothing to do with what their occupation is and what it would look like if we matched their occupation, and if you're going to tell me what you wanted me to say and not what I actually said, then you might as well go back and read my post again; I read your post and made sure I read it to my self loud and clear before I typed my sentences.

 

I reread your post three times to make sure I got everything clear; you're stating that magic users have the upper hand in any job in Equestria.

 

Well that can't be true with the Pegasi. Their jobs usually for the most part entail towards air travel of some type. Unless all magic users can create spells that grow wings or teleport like Twilight, this sort of shuts out a 1/3 of the jobs there. And I highly doubt every magic user can do what Twilight does I mean come on, she was trained by Celestia. The most I expect from other Unicorns is the spells that pertain to what they do and the few simple ones like levitation. I don't see many Unicorns actually training above what they do unlike Twilight.

 

Earth ponies are extremely hard workers and very durable towards what they do. Not saying any other pony isn't, but they have a very wide variety of jobs available to them that usually any other magic user can do as well. The only upper hand magic users get here is their above and beyond efficiency rate of their work, but even then they have to train on what to do specifically.

 

Yeah, I can see Twilight able to pick a lot of apples a time as an example here, but with the Ursa episode we can see that there are limits to what usual Unicorns can do, and she is definitely not usual. Plus after apple picking, you usually have to check for any deficiencies of the product, make the product presentable in what you do with it whether it's cooking or just having it in a bin, and sell it.

 

The only way I see Unicorns getting any type of superiority in any of the other ponies is if they train exclusively in the magical studies like Twilight did for nearly all their life like she did, and I doubt any others (barring maaaaaybe Trixie) would go out of their way to do so.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Hazardus_Havard

[Simcity11100 772]

But that doesn't state why you said that I said that the cutie mark had to represent their occupation when I didn't say that at all.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

But that doesn't state why you said that I said that the cutie mark had to represent their occupation when I didn't say that at all.

 

I don't recall actually stating, oh wait. You must be confused, I was agreeing to your standpoint by adding my own on top of it. I guess there was just some confusion being placed here.

[Simcity11100 772]

Just because their cutie mark represents something doesn't mean they can't go on to do other things. Rarity's special talent is gems. That's probably because of her magic talent kicking in at that young age. Doesn't mean she can't go off and enjoy making garments for her career; she in fact still creates many with the gems. Twilight Sparkles may be a "librarian" as you put it but she continuously studies magic as that is who she is. If you read my post up above, that is how I actually feel on the whole magic ordeal in the darn show.

 

This is something you quoted me on, do you recall or should I give another reason why I didn't say anything about their cutie marks having to match their job?

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

This is something you quoted me on, do you recall or should I give another reason why I didn't say anything about their cutie marks having to match their job?

 

I was AGREEING with you adding my point of view on the topic of cutie marks you just stated. Sort of like adding on more info to help push a cause forward with a greater amount of support. Yes, I quoted you, but I don't recall that quotes on arguments had to be argumentative on the arguer in question. Edited July 24, 2012 by Hazardus_Havard

[Eenohay 318]

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I'm pretty sure all unicorns can use telekinesis. It seems like the most basic spell, just that there are not too many Unicorns in the show so we don't see it that much.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

I'm pretty sure all unicorns can use telekinesis. It seems like the most basic spell, just that there are not too many Unicorns in the show so we don't see it that much.

 

I'm going to agree with you there on the basis of the episode showcasing Pinkie babysitting Pound and Pumpkin Cake. It clearly shows Pumpkin Cake levitating objects directly to herself even though she is still only a child. It can therefore be argued that a ponies inherent traits come with certain capabilities when they first come to their skills, such as flying or magic, and the strengths to them may differ from pony to pony. But as stating before, yes; I believe all Unicorns have the telekinesis ability at birth It's just the strength of their magic that ultimately relays to what they can do with it later on.. Edited July 24, 2012 by Hazardus_Havard

[Rainycakes 30]

Magic dominates over the advancement of technology, not a pony's job. When one discovers their cutie mark, that's when they discover what they're best at, and thus what kind of job they'll do OR how they'll enrich pony society AND/OR Equestria itself.

 

Rarity (since everyone's mentioning my favorite pony) has always had a knack for aesthetics, and it's reflected in her cutie mark. She discovered a special spell that lets her find gems. When she realized that this was the last remaining ingredient to her self-discovery/purpose, she gained her cutie mark; it's part of her "job" or role in pony society. It may not seem like it, but Rarity makes wearable art. She's an artist. <3 Sparkling, shiny, awe-inspiring gems are her trademark. We may find out in future episodes whether there's a more serious/adventurous purpose for Rarity's gem-finding...

OH THAT'S RIGHT SHE'S GOING TO MARRY SPIKE.... or save Spike's dragonkind from dying of hunger?

 

 

Unicorns may seem like they can do anything, and maybe some of them can, but they're also very weak. The majority of unicorns don't have the magic reserves to exert their magic for long. Twilight sparkle is an exception, not the rule. Her special affinity with magic has helped her develop the concentration it takes for strenuous or long-term telekinesis.

 

By the way, this is a great topic. <3