gaming PC gaming or console gaming?

[MadDoggyca 710]

truth be told gaming isn't want it use to be, old dos games and nes/snes games were the best, They did not hold your hand ever step of the way telling you "hints" on what to do or were to go. The gamer had to figure ever thing out, the game only came with a detailed manual and that was it.. We didn't evne have walkthroughs back then..

 

today game are bassicly telling you what to do, were to go, and how to do it with no thinking on the gamers side.. its a sad story but true

[Moon Rat 4,772]

I honestly prefer console gaming over PC gaming simply because when I play a game, I just like to sit back, relax, and let myself go into a different world, and Consoles (mostly PS3, single-player games) let me do that without the stress of modders and hackers.

 

I'm also not one to enjoy raging over a game (though I have done so a couple times on some games)

 

besides,

the PC control setup just looks absolutely complicated (too many keys and such for my simple mind though I not mind giving it a shot)

 

 

also, I was raised with Console gaming as well so that's another factor in it

 

and controllers feel more comfortable as well

[go away seb 367]

Both have their pros and cons, but I ultimately prefer PC.

 

Pros for PC:

1. More customizable

2. You can do multiple things at the same time (e.g. Music)

3. Mouse and Keyboard is a better setup for strategy and FPS games, since you can quickly aim/move your cursor.

4. You don't need disks for every single game you play

5. Text Chat with friends is easier

6. Can be potentially stronger than Xbox or PS3, if you're willing to put a lot of money and effort into it

7. Closer to the screen, so it's easier to read subtitles or notice small cameos or details

8.
You can do things such as writing papers or making posters and then you
can hop onto a game without having to move around the house

9. Portable Gaming Laptops. 'Nuff said.

 

Cons for PC:

1. Installing games can take a while

2. Can get uncomfortable if you have a cheap chair

3. You're more vulnerable to viruses or intruders (yes, you run the risk when using Consoles, too)

4. Notifications, such as Facebook, E-Mail, IM, or Anti-Virus, can get in the way.

5. It can be pretty expensive if you're looking for a top-notch Gaming desktop

 

Nutshell for PC:
The Cons can be easily solved, which are just little picky things. I
prefer PC, but that doesn't mean Console Gaming is terrible.

 

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Pros for Console:

1. You can get comfortable on a sofa or lounge chair

2. Controls take less time to get used to

3. Graphics and Processors are generally good when you first buy it

4. Current-Gen consoles cost less than Gaming PCs

 

Cons for Console:

1. Typing or Text Chat is time consuming and sometimes annoying

2. Since wireless controllers are the norm, you might need to constantly change the batteries

3. To change games, you need to get up, grab the disk, and replace it

4. You're far away from the screen (usually), so you might not be able to read subtitles or hear it very well.

5. Consoles are games and games only, which can be less convenient if you were taking a quick break

6.
You don't really have a say in what the developers do with the console.
If there's a bad layout change, you usually can't change it back

7. You are very restricted when it comes to customization

 

Nutshell for Console:
I never really liked Consoles. If you have bad eyesight, like me, it
can be hard to see the screen. I also went through like 2 packs of
batteries keeping my Xbox controller alive. It's good for when you're
playing with family, but if you're by yourself, it really seems
impractical, since a lot of the good games are on PC anyways

[DusK 1,264]

Graphics do not make a better game.

From a technical standpoint, they do. I know you'd never know the difference between 30 FPS and a silky smooth 75, but I do, as do all PC gamers. If a game on one platform can result in better graphics, higher resolutions, and more graphical stability, it's better in that department.

 

Using Sonic Generations as an example again, the console versions see a massive slowdown in some areas where the framerate can drop as low as 15 FPS. This disrupts gameplay and makes at least one portion of the game game (the building run in Speed Highway) almost unplayable. A good PC, such as mine, never sees the framerate dip below 75 in these cases, leaving me free to enjoy the game without stuttering.

 

Nor do Mods.

From an enjoyability standpoint, they do. They can increase the replay value of the game, often drastically, alter aspects of the base game that one or some users may not find enjoyable, or add features that one or some users would find enjoyable.

 

Oh wait, one more thing, did you know you can mod console games as well? I can't believe I didn't present this yesterday. I actually have modded versions of Mario Kart and New Super Mario Bros.

See? You know what's up.

 

So if you take out mods and graphics, how is one version of a game objectively better?

Often, it depends on the game in question, but the flexibility in control method if usually a big one. Yeah, you could argue that keyboard and mouse controls are often shoddily coded and whatnot in a bad console port, but it's better than the complete absence of that method, which is evident in nearly all console releases. Actually, just about any peripheral can be used with any game on a PC, pretty easily.

 

Panoramic displays aren't just fancy, they add peripheral vision to any game. That's a gameplay-affecting addition.

 

Online play is also generally better on the PC. Giving a title things like dedicated servers or integration with a free social gaming platform such as Steam can create a sense of community often not present with consoles.

 

You start throwin' out title names, I could be a little more accurate.

[HailthornX 47]

From a technical standpoint, they do. I know you'd never know the difference between 30 FPS and a silky smooth 75, but I do, as do all PC gamers. If a game on one platform can result in better graphics, higher resolutions, and more graphical stability, it's better in that department.

 

Using Sonic Generations as an example again, the console versions see a massive slowdown in some areas where the framerate can drop as low as 15 FPS. This disrupts gameplay and makes at least one portion of the game game (the building run in Speed Highway) almost unplayable. A good PC, such as mine, never sees the framerate dip below 75 in these cases, leaving me free to enjoy the game without stuttering.

 

From an enjoyability standpoint, they do. They can increase the replay value of the game, often drastically, alter aspects of the base game that one or some users may not find enjoyable, or add features that one or some users would find enjoyable.

 

See? You know what's up.

 

Often, it depends on the game in question, but the flexibility in control method if usually a big one. Yeah, you could argue that keyboard and mouse controls are often shoddily coded and whatnot in a bad console port, but it's better than the complete absence of that method, which is evident in nearly all console releases. Actually, just about any peripheral can be used with any game on a PC, pretty easily.

 

Panoramic displays aren't just fancy, they add peripheral vision to any game. That's a gameplay-affecting addition.

 

Online play is also generally better on the PC. Giving a title things like dedicated servers or integration with a free social gaming platform such as Steam can create a sense of community often not present with consoles.

 

You start throwin' out title names, I could be a little more accurate.

So basically, it could differ game to game on which version is "objectively" better. This I might be able to agree with. But saying that any given PC version is objectively better than any given console version is unfounded as there is undeniable proof that this isn't the case.

 

And the graphics may be better, but graphics do not make a game better. Especially if a PC/Console version suffers from engine problems, bugs, ect. You can put a dress on poop and give it makeup, but it's still poop.

 

So all I'm trying to say is that it's not 100% true that a PC version is always superior. And then when you factor in things like personal experience it can become murkier. From a technical standpoint a PC game might be better, but experience is a key factor in my opinion. If the experience is better on a console, then it is superior.

 

Also I will never argue that online isn't better on PC namely because I don't often play games online, so I can't really give an informed opinion.

 

But I do play Modern Warfare 3 a lot on my Wii (yes, I said Wii) and I enjoy it just as much as I enjoy CODs for the 360. And funny story, I've used my Wii for online purposes more than any other device. So maybe I'm just weird.

[MadDoggyca 710]

I honestly prefer console gaming over PC gaming simply because when I play a game, I just like to sit back, relax, and let myself go into a different world, and Consoles (mostly PS3, single-player games) let me do that without the stress of modders and hackers.

 

I'm also not one to enjoy raging over a game (though I have done so a couple times on some games)

 

besides,

the PC control setup just looks absolutely complicated (too many keys and such for my simple mind though I not mind giving it a shot)

 

 

also, I was raised with Console gaming as well so that's another factor in it

 

and controllers feel more comfortable as well

 

I guessing you dont play games like MechWarrior or Microsoft Flight Simulator, ? Xplane? or another other game that require more then 16 keys/buttons to operate.?

 

these are the games that will never make it a console and when they attempt to IE (MS flight) vs MS flight Simulator it become a really bad game, desiged for 7y/s that dont know how to game

Edited February 8, 2013 by MadDoggyca

[Moon Rat 4,772]

I

guessing you don't play games like MechWarrior or Microsoft Flight

Simulator, ? Xplane? or another other game that require more then 16

keys/buttons to operate.?

 

these are the games that

will never make it a console and when they attempt to IE (MS flight) vs

MS flight Simulator it become a really bad game, desiged for 7y/s that

dont know how to game

to be honest...

no, I do not like playing Flight Simulator games or any certain game that requires 172 buttons be pressed to actually play it (over-dramatizing, please don't kill me for it)

 

I'm more or less play games like Ratchet and Clank

not too many buttons to press plus...

I can just sit back on my chair, relax, and go all postal on bad guys :3

 

Fun :3

[Thundershock 310]

i prefer console gaming,actually.I don't use a PC,actually.I like to just sit down and play right away it does'nt take very long .

[DusK 1,264]

So all I'm trying to say is that it's not 100% true that a PC version is always superior.

And yet, for some reason, the only attempt that someone has done to give an example of a console version that's better than a PC version was RE4, and was wrong.

 

Interesting.

[MadDoggyca 710]

And yet, for some reason, the only attempt that someone has done to give an example of a console version that's better than a PC version was RE4, and was wrong.

 

Interesting.

I did dead island and I was totaly right on the dot.. there not a single way to prove me wrong ether. btw its just shows u failed to read replys before posting 1

 

appretently I can'tt read .lol

Edited February 9, 2013 by MadDoggyca

[Batbrony 16,051]

I prefer console gaming, and I guess if I wanted to get down to why, it's probably because I prefer some of the games on the platforms, that and the Xbox 360 controller is just really comfortable for me (and yes, I know you can get controllers for PCs).  It's just a preference really, and I'll readily admit that there are a lot of pros to PC gaming; just been a console gamer for years, and it's what I like.  So if you prefer console gaming, great, if you prefer PC gaming, great, I don't see the point for a debate here. 

[My Little Mandy 838]

For me it depends on the game. If it has a good story, graphics, and music I'll play it.

It also depends on the genre of the game. I play to play some shooting games and puzzle games.

But I'm mostly a RPGer. 

[HailthornX 47]

And yet, for some reason, the only attempt that someone has done to give an example of a console version that's better than a PC version was RE4, and was wrong.

 

Interesting.

Final Fantasy VII.

 

The PC version was not better than the PS1 version. That's the first example that came to mind. Also, I believe the Mega Man X games were also better on console.

 

Those are just some examples. So no, every single PC version of a game is not better than a console version. I'm not saying that there aren't PC versions that are likely better. But it is not 100% either way.

 

For example, Starcraft 1 is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better on PC than it is on N64. Then again, most RTS's tend to be.

[DusK 1,264]

Final Fantasy VII.

Ran at a higher resolution and was modable. The 2012 re-release also featured cloud saving, full keybinding/input binding options, several bug fixes, omission of disc changes, and a bunch of other upgrades from the console version. See this page for details.

Also, I believe the Mega Man X games were also better on console.

The PC version ran at a higher resolution and music playback with MIDI, meaning that many wavetables increased the music quality of that of the SNES. It also had customizable controls, if I remember correctly. Other than that, there were no differences between versions, so that makes the PC version better.

 

When you're ready to give it another shot, I'll be here.

[Prismatic 49]

If you've played the PC version of Final Fantasy VII you should know that they used bad MIDIs instead of finding a way to use the original music (note: MP3s weren't really used back then).  One of the reasons why I did not like FFVII PC.

[DusK 1,264]

If you've played the PC version of Final Fantasy VII you should know that they used bad MIDIs instead of finding a way to use the original music (note: MP3s weren't really used back then).  One of the reasons why I did not like FFVII PC.

PC was actually the only way I was able to play FFVII when I did, and the quality of the audio depended on which wavetable you used. The music on my system ended up sounding better than the PSOne version.

 

The 2012 one uses .ogg files, and you can actually just replace those and they'll still play. I was actually thinking about seeing if I could sub out the entire soundtrack with Voices of the Lifestream, but I don't own the re-release yet.

Edited February 9, 2013 by DusK

[Nah 3,182]

PC gaming, console is expensive and lacks the ability to customize, plus a wider range of games for the PC over consoles. PCs are more powerful, and can handle more.

 

Consoles have advantages, such as retail price, exclusive games, great platforms, etc.

 

In the end PC > console

[VigilSerus 54]

I'll take a computer over a console any day of the week. The sheer power and versatility of a computer easily dwarfs whatever a console could do. Costs more, but it is easily well worth it.

[Milk Wave 454]

(The scoring between the computer will be marked as computer/console in the color red)

 

Im both integrated and dedicated to a computer.

It might just be my style, but for me I look at graphic's and fps very closly. I cannot play any game if the frame rate is low.

 

As I said in the PS3 or Xbox 360 thread, I have an xbox which plays Fallout: New vegas at a pretty low frame rate. The quality settings were on high of course, but the one problem it would have is that if there was too much going on at one time, it would freeze up.

 

Now for my laptop I have, it has INTEGRATED GRAPHICS which plays Fallout 3 at high fps on high quality. Unusual for a smaller beast, but tis better.

(1/0)

The big difference here is that my Xbox costed $300 and my laptop costed $450.

Yeh, guess which one is worth more.

 

If you didnt guess, the laptop wins in every category.

 

Portability wise, the computer is better because you have a screen attached to a small computer which you can hold in your hands.

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Business and normal thing wise, the computer is better because it has much faster internet streaming + it can run lots and lots of programs that the console cant.

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Gaming wise, the computer easily wins here because of Steam. You can buy games for your computer and have it saved on here without the need of using a Disc to play the game. (HENCE my CoD Black ops II broke for my Xbox so now, I can never play the game again)

(4/0)

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One other thing that applies to gaming is, the response in between controllers and mice. Playing fallout new vegas was a small pain because if you were getting shot at, you turned around slowley. Now with a computer mouse, all you had to do was jerk right and you'd be firing back at the enemy in a much shorter time. The one cool feature about the computer is that most games allow you to use a joy stick if you dont like using a mouse.

(5/0)

 

So overall, the computer wins 5 to 0 in my opionion. Its much more portable, general usage is much better, because you can surf the internet and have many tabs open while watching lots of youtube videos, there is a bigger selection of games, the mouse is much more responsive and controlled, and lastly the gaming graphics/fps are (usually, depending on the computer you have) better overall which makes your gaming experience much better.

 

This is my opionion, so please dont get upset and try to disagree with me. That'll be much appreciated.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Moon Wave

[HailthornX 47]

Ran at a higher resolution and was modable. The 2012 re-release also featured cloud saving, full keybinding/input binding options, several bug fixes, omission of disc changes, and a bunch of other upgrades from the console version. See this page for details.The PC version ran at a higher resolution and music playback with MIDI, meaning that many wavetables increased the music quality of that of the SNES. It also had customizable controls, if I remember correctly. Other than that, there were no differences between versions, so that makes the PC version better.

 

When you're ready to give it another shot, I'll be here.

If you compare vanilla release to the PSX version, the PSX version is undoubtedly superior. Third party content might have made the 90's PC version superior. But upon initial release, which version was superior? Let me answer that, it was the PSX version.

 

And it's also telling that console versions don't have to rely on third party content to be better. Just sayin'.

 

Now I'm sure you're going to disagree and whatnot. And that's fine. But I've said multiple times in previous posts that if you take away mods there's really not much there.

 

And regardless, it's still an opinion. That's how I look at it. If you'd still like to disagree, go for it. But I think after so many posts, neither one of us is going to convince the other. So it's impasse. Have a nice day.

Edited February 9, 2013 by HailthornX

[DusK 1,264]

If you compare vanilla release to the PSX version, the PSX version is undoubtedly superior.\

In what ways?

 

Graphics? That goes to PC.

 

Music? Depends on the system, as is usually the case with modern games and graphics, point goes to PC.

 

Controls? Could be rebound. Point goes to PC.

 

Otherwise, the titles were pretty much the same. So if, in every area, the PC version was equal to or better than the PSX version, point the PC clearly had the better version of the game.

[HailthornX 47]

In what ways?

 

Graphics? That goes to PC.

 

Music? Depends on the system, as is usually the case with modern games and graphics, point goes to PC.

 

Controls? Could be rebound. Point goes to PC.

 

Otherwise, the titles were pretty much the same. So if, in every area, the PC version was equal to or better than the PSX version, point the PC clearly had the better version of the game.

Except for all the glitches fan made mods fixed. Which was conveniently stated on your little fact sheet.

 

And also this: "The PC version of Final Fantasy VII was not released in Japan,

but released to the rest of the world in June 1998. This version is

notable for not being fully functional, requiring a patch to function

properly throughout the game."

 

The PC version of the game has gained significant attention over the

years due to modding communities accessing the game. A fan also

developed a rendering engine was also developed for the game known as Aali's Driver which would fix a number of graphical glitches, as well as other glitches and allow for more modding of the game.

• The translation was re-done. Most grammatical and typographical

  errors were corrected. Other changes to the translation also made things

  incorrect, including timeframes and less faithful translations. One

  thing includes Corral Valley (PS) being renamed Corel Valley (PC) when

  it has nothing to do with Corel, but is instead literally "Coral

  Valley".

• Mouths were added to characters.
• The Speed Square minigame is much faster.
• The Chocobo minigame freezes the game. A patch was developed by Qhimm which would alter be linked to by Square to fix this.
• A number of graphical glitches occurred in the game, most notably Vincent's glitched animation at the Water Altar.
• The music was changed to MIDI format, and thus reduced in quality from the PlayStation version.
• FMVs were downscaled.
• Character naming screens utilize the keyboard to input names.

  These screens also now ignore the given controls and will reset all

  other buttons to their defaults (on the NumPad).

• A "Quit" option was added to the menu.
• When the game is not the active window the game will pause, however the music will continue playing.

So no, it really does not go to the PC version. The PSX version is superior upon initial release in this scenario.

Edited February 9, 2013 by HailthornX

[MadDoggyca 710]

Final Fantasy VII.

 

The PC version was not better than the PS1 version. That's the first example that came to mind. Also, I believe the Mega Man X games were also better on console.

 

Those are just some examples. So no, every single PC version of a game is not better than a console version. I'm not saying that there aren't PC versions that are likely better. But it is not 100% either way.

 

For example, Starcraft 1 is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better on PC than it is on N64. Then again, most RTS's tend to be.

 

you Never played FF VII Remake from squre enix have u. here the link btw and yes its wayyyy better..

from higher res textures to better music tracks and sound effects. Also comes with achvements

 

http://finalfantasyviipc.com/en

http://store.na.square-enix.com/store/sqenixus/en_US/pd/ThemeID.29853700/productID.250845500#.URX1DILTmK5

 

The 1997 Orignal version of FF Vii was also better then  the PSX version to higher Resoulution and the  Yamaha DB50XG sound drivers killed the  MIDI format that the psx used.

 

I know this due to the fact I have PSX, Orginal PC version and the Remake version of Final Fantasy Vii. I also have the PSX and PC version of Final Fantasy VIII as well

 

here is the orginal 1997 PC verion of Final Fantasy Vii (more Fighting/Boss track) useing  the Yamaha Driver for windows 95/98

 

 

compaired to the psx verison

 

 

Edited February 9, 2013 by MadDoggyca

[DusK 1,264]

you Never played FF VII Remake from squre enix have u. here the link btw and yes its wayyyy better..

from higher res textures to better music tracks and sound effects. Also comes with achvements

 

http://finalfantasyviipc.com/en

http://store.na.square-enix.com/store/sqenixus/en_US/pd/ThemeID.29853700/productID.250845500#.URX1DILTmK5

 

The 1997 Orignal version of FF Vii was also better then  the PSX version to higher Resoulution and the yamaha sound drivers killed the  MIDI format that the psx used.

 

I know this due to the fact I have PSX, Orginal PC version and the Remake version of Final Fantasy Vii. I also have the PSX and PC version of Final Fantasy VIII as well

 

Nah, dude, that one magically doesn't count because, well, just because.

 

Anyone else find it funny that all of Hailthorn's attempts to find console titles better than their PC counterparts are games that are over a decade old? Where da modern at?!

[MadDoggyca 710]

Im just saying you can;t say the PSX (console version) is better then the pc version.. since we know thats not true

 

and truth be told if you had the right hardware back in windows 95/98 years having a 3dFX Vodoo (in SLI -  Serial link interface) with GLIDE support & and SoundBlaster Pro mudered the PSX version hands down.

come to think about it the only pc I ever had that did not have 2 Video card was my old intel 80386 with dos 3&5 /w windows 3.0/3.1 after that as soon as vodoo came out I always had atlest 2 video cards for all my pcs. lol 

 

 

shhhhhh don't tell him he dosen't know yet but

 

Diablo 1 is way better on PC then psx,

the Entire Need For Speed Franchies from Road and Track (1994) to Most wanted (2012) is better on PC then it is on Saga Satran/PSX/PS2/Xbox/GameCube/wii/wii U/Xbox360/ps3/DS/Vita/psp/psp go

Edited February 9, 2013 by MadDoggyca