Police shoots dog! [Disturbing]

[FadedSkies 1,874]

Couple of days ago swat and police are waiting on people to come out of the house, when a guy pulls up to record the scene. The man who drove up in the car left his loud music on and that was distracting the police in their  investigation. The man saw the police coming so he put his dog in the car. But he did not close the window. Police comes up to him to arrest him, then the dog comes up the window and runs to the man, it wasnt going to bite but i guess thats what the officer thought so he took out his gun and shot it multiple times.

Edited July 4, 2013 by Chigens and Kay
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[MVC NVMXD JVRXD 2,406]

I mean the dog was posing a threat to the police officers, what else were they going to do? Why did the guy feel the need to have his dog on him while he was filming this anyway? It's his fault.

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

I tell ya. Police these days. They are just pigs. They don't know what to do with themselves nowadays. We pay taxes to them and this happens? Send that cop straight to the jailhouse and never let him come out!

 

Thinking he's doing right, but he's done it all wrong. 

 

Boy I wish Princess Celestia was there to see it. She would be mad beyond mad. In fact, she would look him straight into the eyes and say the famous seven words she said to her faithful student: "You have a lot to think about."

[FadedSkies 1,874]

I mean the dog was posing a threat to the police officers, what else were they going to do? Why did the guy feel the need to have his dog on him while he was filming this anyway? It's his fault.

 

Yeah i agree with your comment because the guy was so stupid leaving his car on while he has loud music and he goes on and tapes the scene. But the police could at least held the dog back or something. Just watching the dog in pain was so hurtfull

[Mephala 2,633]

Even if it were to bite, the police generally have protective gear on, do they not? The dog wouldn't hurt them very much, and it was probably just curious. What a horrible thing to do like that, kill a defenseless creature. That's abuse to an animal. 

I'm not going to watch the video, since I'd probably want to go kick that cop's ass (correction: I WOULD), but I hope that he is at least ashamed of his crime and he is rightfully punished.

Edited July 3, 2013 by Suigintou

[Galen 1,354]

I saw this on another forum and my feelings on this are no different. Cops ought to be trained in self restraint and that's becoming really evident lately. The trigger happy approach is deplorable to say the least.

[repsol rave 2,963]

just one more reason why i think the police in amerika have serious problems with their abuse of power.

i think they should remove their guns as standard equipment and just give them tazers instead. let's see if the 'accidental deaths' happen as much then.

this video makes me utterly sick. i have a dog myself and the behaviour of that dog wasn't aggressive, it was curious what they where going to do with his owner.

[Raiden21 804]

just one more reason why i think the police in amerika have serious problems with their abuse of power.

i think they should remove their guns as standard equipment and just give them tazers instead. let's see if the 'accidental deaths' happen as much then.

this video makes me utterly sick. i have a dog myself and the behaviour of that dog wasn't aggressive, it was curious what they where going to do with his owner.

I'm not trying to be mean but if the police got their guns taken away, then they would all be dead. There are hundreds of gangs in just L.A. alone with access the illegal firearms such as full automatic Ak-47's. Taking away weapons isn't the thing, they need a new method of training.

[3005 332]

Does anyone remember the Chris Dorner case in Southern Cali from February of this year? This guy went on a massacre of LAPD officers, and while the LAPD was searching for him, this happened: 

 

"In two separate incidents during the manhunt, police shot at three civilians unrelated to Dorner, mistaking their pickup trucks for the vehicle being driven by Dorner. One of the civilians was hit by the police gunfire, another was wounded by shattered glass, and a third individual was injured when police rammed his vehicle and opened fire." 

 

It just irritates me that everyone in charge seems to be so incompetent. 

[repsol rave 2,963]

I'm not trying to be mean but if the police got their guns taken away, then they would all be dead. There are hundreds of gangs in just L.A. alone with access the illegal firearms such as full automatic Ak-47's. Taking away weapons isn't the thing, they need a new method of training.

well, i am not trying to offend enyone related to a police officer right now, but if the police use their guns to kill dogs and people, i really think they should be killed themselves. 

this wasn't defence against a gang member with a fully auto AK, this was murder. 

[MelancholicMemory 2,025]

I hate the police.  They're incompetent, brutal, abusive bullies for the most part. This just supports my case against them. I remember a while back the police around here got in trouble 1. For being racist and 2. For how an officer beat a retarded kid.

[Raiden21 804]

well, i am not trying to offend enyone related to a police officer right now, but if the police use their guns to kill dogs and people, i really think they should be killed themselves. 

this wasn't defence against a gang member with a fully auto AK, this was murder. 

I'm actually not related to any cops, I personally hate most of them. A lot of murders and the abusement of power by police happen very frequently. Some are not recorded, some are, and some are first hand accounts but they can't do anything because who is the judge going to believe a sworn duty cop or a minority who looks suspectful.

[Galen 1,354]

I'm not trying to be mean but if the police got their guns taken away, then they would all be dead. There are hundreds of gangs in just L.A. alone with access the illegal firearms such as full automatic Ak-47's. Taking away weapons isn't the thing, they need a new method of training.

It's true that more training is necessary but it can't be denied guns are also the problem. The thing about guns is that they empower those who use them in terrible ways more often than not. If guns weren't around less people would be encouraged to do disgusting things and that goes for cops too. As for illegal guns, the vast majority of them are produced in the US unlike surprisingly popular opinion. Gangs' access to them would also be heavily restricted.

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It's quite unfortunate that this situation was handled so poorly, my father was part of the K9 unit for a majority of his career and he'd be shaking his head in shame if he was here to witness this video. The officer could have used alternative methods to deter the dog instead of approaching it with his glock. It's like he completely forgot about his Tazer and Mace but that could be due to the situation previously building up before the dog and his owner showed up. Hell, the officer who instantly pulled out his gun is a huge sign that he's inexperienced. If they would've let the owner of the dog go to calm his pet down I'm sure this situation wouldn't have unfolded the way it did. 

 

But there's something to take into account for all of us who aren't part of the Police force or like to call law enforcement 'pigs' as it were. You must remember that no matter how much training you receive in controlled environments, you're never ready for the real thing. Prepared, yes, but fully knowing how to truly asses a situation on the fly correctly while you're being filled with adrenaline and hoping that no bodily harm comes to you or your comrades? In the heat of the moment, when you're filled with fear, inexperience and have that adrenaline rush, all the training you've received easily flies itself out the window. 

 

But nobody wants to take the time to think, we're all caught up in the moment that we only allow our initial reactions to choose for us. Both ourselves, the on lookers, and the officer who shot the dog. 

 

 

Even if it were to bite, the police generally have protective gear on, do they not?

 

Not exactly, the most that an officer may have while on duty is Kevlar. But hell, even if the dog were to chomp down on his arm he would've easily had a nice little paid vacation. 

Edited July 3, 2013 by Accellerant

[FancyPhoenix 197]

I'm not going to lie, I think the guy who was arrested was a bit of an idiot, first for stopping to film the situation in the first place (COME ON! They're police! Why would you need to film that kind of a thing?), but also for having his dog with him, and last but not least for not shutting the windows of the car. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for the dog, and I think there would've been numerous ways to avoid this situation. BUT the dog WAS attacking the police officer. Yes, it was in defense of its master, but that doesn't change the fact that it was posing a threat to the police. Just think about it. A big dog like that suddenly jumps at you looking like it's going to bite, you have a weapon at hand, would you not use it? I don't like animal cruelty any more than the next person, but I don't think this is a case of that. The officer did what he had to, and also most likely what he is told to do in such a situation. I feel bad for the dog, and I think the officer could have handled this differently, but I seriously think the owner is at the biggest fault here.

 

EDIT: Yes, the dog did seem to act curious, but notice how the shooting only happens after the dog jumps at the officer's hand? That was an attack, no question about it. 

 

 

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This here I can agree with. There would have been many ways to diffuse the situation without the use of deadly force, but we need to remember that the police are only human too. And humans make mistakes. I have no doubt that the situation at hand was a stressful one and the officer simply made a human error under stress.

Edited July 3, 2013 by Jamza

[Raiden21 804]

It's true that more training is necessary but it can't be denied guns are also the problem. The thing about guns is that they empower those who use them in terrible ways more often than not. If guns weren't around less people would be encouraged to do disgusting things and that goes for cops too. As for illegal guns, the vast majority of them are produced in the US unlike surprisingly popular opinion. Gangs' access to them would also be heavily restricted.

Yes it's true that guns concede to the problem, but chances are in the U.S. guns aren't going to go away soon. I find a gun as a neutral thing since it can be used for good and bad. If guns were prohibited, gangs will always find a way. Look at the drug trade, the U.S. has spent millions on it and drugs are still making it here, not as much as it used to be but still making it.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

I don't think that officer did anything wrong.

 

The dog was aggressive and tried attacking him. What was he supposed to do? Give it a toy to chew on?

 

The owner shouldn't have been such a dumb ass.

[Galen 1,354]

Yes it's true that guns concede to the problem, but chances are in the U.S. guns aren't going to go away soon. I find a gun as a neutral thing since it can be used for good and bad. If guns were prohibited, gangs will always find a way. Look at the drug trade, the U.S. has spent millions on it and drugs are still making it here, not as much as it used to be but still making it.

First off, guns can only be used to kill. That's literally their sole purpose. I don't see how they could be considered neutral or even good when keeping that in mind. Also, the difference between drugs and guns is that in the Americas, the US is by far the largest producer. Getting them from places like Mexico isn't going to be easy since Mexico gets them from the US. Unlike drugs which can be made anywhere pretty easily. I don't expect guns to be completely removed for 20 years if the US actually made real attempts at getting rid of them. The gin culture needs to be curbed and that can't be done without more restrictions and background checks.

 

@Lady Rarity, I sure hope you're trolling...

 

@Accelerant, I understand that training can only prepare you so much, but really, they were going after an average civilian. He was absolutely no threat and the cops had no reason to perceive any kind of threat.

Edited July 3, 2013 by Freedan

[~Squishy Skies~ 756]

Why'd you have to remind me of this? This is supposed to be my safe haven 

I'm very disgusted with how the cop reacted, but I do kinda-sorta sympathize with him. He had to act fast. Cops are forced to make split second decisions with a whole lot of stress hanging off their shoulders. I get it.

 

But seriously. There was no reason to kill the poor creature. He could have used pepper on it, though, even I wouldn't do that to a dog. If I was the cop, the most I would ever do is physically attack the dog with my appendages, but I'd most likely just try and calm the dog. I have a knack with that sort of thing.

 

So yeah, this is definitely a case of animal cruelty, and I hope this eats away at that cop's poor, cold heart.

 

@Lady rarity: Killing is wrong. Especially if it's a creature who can't think coherently. I see this as no different than killing a human child. 

Edited July 3, 2013 by Keiichi

[Raiden21 804]

First off, guns can only be used to kill. That's literally their sole purpose. I don't see how they could be considered neutral or even good when keeping that in mind. Also, the difference between drugs and guns is that in the Americas, the US is by far the largest producer. Getting them from places like Mexico isn't going to be easy since Mexico gets them from the US. Unlike drugs which can be made anywhere pretty easily. I don't expect guns to be completely removed for 20 years if the US actually made real attempts at getting rid of them. The gin culture needs to be curbed and that can't be done without more restrictions and background checks.

 

@Lady Rarity, I sure hope you're trolling...

So I guess hunting is really bad then since in your opinion all killing is bad. The US's population is bigger than the Mexico's so of course there is going to be more production. If guns are so available in the US then why would they need to go to Mexico to buy them? I agree with you on background checks but can you be more specific on the restrictions you are talking about?

[Galen 1,354]

So I guess hunting is really bad then since in your opinion all killing is bad. The US's population is bigger than the Mexico's so of course there is going to be more production. If guns are so available in the US then why would they need to go to Mexico to buy them? I agree with you on background checks but can you be more specific on the restrictions you are talking about?

 

That's a bit of a strawman as I was referring to killing other people as opposed to animals for the sake of nourishment, which is a separate discussion from this. Tho perhaps I should've specified? -_-

 

They'd go to Mexico because amazingly, they failed the background checks in the US. I say amazingly because it's really easy to acquire one in the US as it is. And like I said, Mexico gets its guns from the US. Reduce production there, and Mexico will also suffer a decrease in gun supply, which makes it harder to get guns regardless of legality.

[The Soldier 2,044]

I don't think that officer did anything wrong.

 

The dog was aggressive and tried attacking him. What was he supposed to do? Give it a toy to chew on?

 

The owner shouldn't have been such a dumb ass.

You know, officers have more than a handgun. He could've at least used a stun gun (on his other side) to stop the dog, but no, the incompetent "officer" got the handgun instead...

Edited July 3, 2013 by Psyche Clops

[XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 777]

@Accelerant, I understand that training can only prepare you so much, but really, they were going after an average civilian. He was absolutely no threat and the cops had no reason to perceive any kind of threat.

 

In situations such as the ones the cops were in (from what I can see in the video was quite serious) they can't take the risk of a random individual possibly destabilizing the situation. I know this sounds completely crazy, but there have been past situations where distractions, even something as little as someone approaching a scene and recording it, have cost lives. 

 

If a civilian was shot during the situation BECAUSE the cops didn't tell them to back of or remove the individual from the scene, then they would be liable. It's a safer bet to detain and release than to just let someone walts around. Besides, he was there blasting his music and not giving any fucks as to what was happening and just wanted to record. If I was an officer on duty at that situation, I sure as hell wouldn't want something to be distracting me when lives are on the line. 

 

In the end though, this situation was (once again) handled poorly.

 

P.S. Can we take the whole "Guns are Terrible" discussion to another thread? I'd like to discuss the whole semantics of this situation than about the distribution of firearms. 

Edited July 3, 2013 by Accellerant

[Raiden21 804]

That's a bit of a strawman as I was referring to killing other people as opposed to animals for the sake of nourishment, which is a separate discussion from this. Tho perhaps I should've specified?

 

They'd go to Mexico because amazingly, they failed the background checks in the US. I say amazingly because it's really easy to acquire one in the US as it is. And like I said, Mexico gets its guns from the US. Reduce production there, and Mexico will also suffer a decrease in gun supply, which makes it harder to get guns regardless of legality.

If you specified that I wouldn't have tried to sound as hostile. The criminal with a bad record is going to try to get a gun legally? Criminals are not as dumb as they are pointed out to be. A gang will either use (sometimes force) someone with a clean record to buy a gun, that can be counted as initiation to the gang or their first assignment. I am not going to deny that Mexico gets its guns from the US because that is true.

[Champion RD92 8,658]

Oh god that was painful to watch...I love animals and I hate seeing them in pain. 

 

It's sad that the dog had to pay for the stupidity of the owner. 

 

(It's ironic that I have a dog as my profile picture right now lol)

Edited July 3, 2013 by Champion RD92