crazitaco 596 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 (edited) Here are my thoughts on Discord: I don't think he could ever be truly "good" or "evil." Discord is chaos, and chaos is neutral. The reason he screws with the Mane Six so much, I think, is because he wants to test their friendship toward him. He knows that most of them really don't like him, so I think he's just trying to either a.) make them like him, or b.) get them to fess up and admit that they aren't truly his friends. He may be the embodiment of Chaos, but he still doesn't like being lied to, so, like a child, he acts up in an attempt to get back at the ponies as long as he feels that they may be lying to him. When I watched the episode "Three's a Crowd" the other day, my sister said she thought Discord was faking it when he told Twilight he was testing her friendship, because of the way he was still trying to get between her and Cadance afterwards. I don't think this is the case. He seemed to me to be very genuinely happy that Twilight had actually done something for him. His reaction to her relationship with Cadance seems to be a jealous type of reaction. I think he is jealous of the ponies for having the ability to form lasting friendships with one another -- something he can't seem to do with anyone but Fluttershy. Long story short: Discord will never be truly "reformed," but he really does want to have friends; he just doesn't know how to make ponies like him. Wow, I think you hit the nail on the head with Discord's motivations! I was feeling the same thing too from him. The rest of the mane six keep hesitantly claiming to be his friend, basically lying straight to his face. The only pony discord was unsure of was fluttershy. By exchanging letters with Fluttershy, I think he was seeking confirmation that fluttershy would not only claim to be his friend, but commit and show willingness to actually BE his friend. So based on the joy he expressed when he thought twilight was his friend, and the fact that he may have been testing the ponies faithfulness to see whether or not it is true, then I think he may actually be semi-reformed. If fluttershy hadn't committed, he would likely just renounce his "friendship" with her and then they would be screwed. Of course his chaotic nature will still always cause him to be naughty and mischievous He'll never be all good, but then again who wants that anyway? He's more fun when he's unpredictable. Edited January 28, 2014 by crazitaco 2 *Click the picture to join the Nega-Bronies!* "Every cloud has a silver lining" *except for the mushroom-shaped ones which have a lining of Caesium-127, Strontium-90 and other radioactive isotopes. My OC: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/krazie-taco-r3366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlpfan185 1,763 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 (edited) Something was here. Something was here. Something was here. Edited October 10, 2018 by NONAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Cutter 294 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 in a simple word that's simply put. no Avatar by Jokuc ~ Signature by me ~ (Try it) War Thunder ID: ColonelWaffle studying to be a pilot! ~ I like planes (B-17 FTW) ~ What's-its-face window "Never accept the sky as the limit, we got to the moon and beyond." - some guy with an unhealthy obsession of planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naive Wolf Josh 93 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 He would be in a DnD term is for Discord: chaotic neutral.... Yeah, though I'm in the camp that he had reasons for what he did. It seems odd that he was there just the mess with Twilight and Cadence's outing, considering it wouldn't take much to try for another day, but if he was there to keep them away from the Starswirl the Bearded traveling museum... After all, Twilight Sparkle did finish Starswirl's unfinished spell, what else might she put together...? Yay head canon! "Oh dear, I'm way past strange. I think I'm probably incredible." - The Doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shine 166 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 Of course his chaotic nature will still always cause him to be naughty and mischievous He'll never be all good, but then again who wants that anyway? He's more fun when he's unpredictable. I know, right! The reason I love Discord so much is because of his crazy antics and unreliable morals. lawl You are a ghost, driving a meat-coated skeleton made out of stardust. What have you got to be afraid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,883 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 Odd topic? I think this topic's been talked about in all sorts of topics discussing Discord's redemption xP It's not at all odd. That said, I find the answer simple, because I'm one of those who's on the mindset of, 'No, he's not, and he's not evil either'. As Megan said herself, he's now the 'Not-always-reliable ally instead of the known enemy'. He's chaotic neutral at best, not good, nor evil. He accepts the fact that trying to take over the pony universe anymore with what he sees as fun, will end the friendships he's discovered that he enjoys having, but that doesn't mean he's stopped being a chaotic, sneaky and trollish character. In both the premiere and Three's a Crowd, I think he's displayed that perfectly. Others will blatantly disagree, but their pony underwear is in a bunch so feel free to ignore them that's what makes fandoms go round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecal97 340 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 He's not as bad as he used to be, but he's definitely not reformed, he still just wants to cause 'Discord' If you actually took the time to read my forum post, I thank Love you Dashie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 January 28, 2014 Author Share January 28, 2014 Odd topic? I think this topic's been talked about in all sorts of topics discussing Discord's redemption xP It's not at all odd. That said, I find the answer simple, because I'm one of those who's on the mindset of, 'No, he's not, and he's not evil either'. As Megan said herself, he's now the 'Not-always-reliable ally instead of the known enemy'. He's chaotic neutral at best, not good, nor evil. He accepts the fact that trying to take over the pony universe anymore with what he sees as fun, will end the friendships he's discovered that he enjoys having, but that doesn't mean he's stopped being a chaotic, sneaky and trollish character. In both the premiere and Three's a Crowd, I think he's displayed that perfectly. Others will blatantly disagree, but their pony underwear is in a bunch so feel free to ignore them that's what makes fandoms go round. I guess I am just looking to deep into it. Its just Discord seems to have lost a aspect of himself, sense his reformation. He does not strike me as intimidating anymore, atleast not on the level he used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,883 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 I guess I am just looking to deep into it. Its just Discord seems to have lost a aspect of himself, sense his reformation. He does not strike me as intimidating anymore, atleast not on the level he used to be. He's not supposed to be intimidating, because he's no longer a threat in the same way he was before :3 Some people find that this takes away from his character, others like me, enjoy him for who he is, what his personality is, and the chaos that he causes through gags, all three of which have not changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 Odd topic? I think this topic's been talked about in all sorts of topics discussing Discord's redemption xP It's not at all odd. That said, I find the answer simple, because I'm one of those who's on the mindset of, 'No, he's not, and he's not evil either'. As Megan said herself, he's now the 'Not-always-reliable ally instead of the known enemy'. He's chaotic neutral at best, not good, nor evil. He accepts the fact that trying to take over the pony universe anymore with what he sees as fun, will end the friendships he's discovered that he enjoys having, but that doesn't mean he's stopped being a chaotic, sneaky and trollish character. In both the premiere and Three's a Crowd, I think he's displayed that perfectly. Others will blatantly disagree, but their pony underwear is in a bunch so feel free to ignore them that's what makes fandoms go round. Nonsense. I think the jump for pinkie to be chaotic neutral is surprisingly small. I think she has extend periods in that state. Discord is literally as evil as you can be and not get stoned. I've compared him to beatle juice, but honestly? I think he's worse. and that guys evil (yes the cartoon one). Beatle juice stood up for his friends on occasion. I'm not entirely sure discord would help his friends out. In fact i kinda doubt it. I think that's fanciful thinking of the flutter shy-discord alliance that discord will one day save fluter shy from some great evil and prove he's a big softy deep down inside. I think your setting your self up for alot dispointment. In the setting of mlp, discord is as evil as you can be with out getting sombreded. He bends all the loop holes for all his needs. he's purely selfish and juvenile. I think fans just say "he's not evil" cause they like him. As a card carrying member of team bad guy, I like his charisma that he's taken you all in. but it's a lie. it's bad for you. and i'm only telling you cause i know you won't beleive me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjamon102938 222 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 I think Spike said it best, he may be reformed but he's no that reformed. Discord will always be Discord special thanks to Lunia for this AWESOME signature MY OC: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/valiant-gamer-r5975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deesinn 393 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 (edited) See Discord isn't really evil. He doesn't physically harm anypony, enough to murder or maul, that we're aware of anyways, he just likes things to be a different way than everypony else. He is selfish, but in a more destructive way. We really don't know his true motivations, I mean why would Celestia free him and try to reform him, when you can just keep him a statue and not have to worry about it. To teach him the magic of friendship? Did Celestia feel bad about keeping him as a statue? NO! Come on! It seems odd to me. There is something more going on that we're obviously not aware of. He must hold some sort of key, or know something that everypony else does not. My prediction is that he actually becomes a key in stopping some evil force down the road, during the final acts of the series, saving all of Equestria, maybe even sacrificing himself for everypony else, finally learning what it truly means to have friends and experience those feelings. It's clear he is self-aware, and can make choices, and he can also learn and experience emotions he may not have before. He may be the essence of chaos, but that doesn't mean he has to act chaotic, or even cause chaos. Edited January 28, 2014 by Deesinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroSparks 232 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 As it's been said previous to me, I'm pretty sure he's chaotic neutral right now. But with as much as he's been showing up lately, it wouldn't surprise me if he has a major good role to play later in the season. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree next to the river of truth, and tell the whole world"No, you move." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 January 28, 2014 Author Share January 28, 2014 He's not supposed to be intimidating, because he's no longer a threat in the same way he was before :3 Some people find that this takes away from his character, others like me, enjoy him for who he is, what his personality is, and the chaos that he causes through gags, all three of which have not changed. I get what you are saying and I agree, I do like those aspects of Discord, but part of me feels that all of Discord's appearances after '' The Return of Harmony'' could have been centered around him as a villain and still had the same effect. The way I look at it is, I associate a character base off how said character is introduced to me. If he is introduced as a villain than that is what I would generally associate that character as. To me, to reform Discord would be like reforming MoJo JoJo or Him from the Powerpuff Girls. The character just would not feel the same in retrospect. Don't get me wrong, the concept of Discord befriending the Mane 6 has grown on me, its just that I feel that there needs to be actual purpose behind his reformation other than friendship as that is a alternative they could have tried in ''Return of Harmony'' instead of turning him to stone. Also Celestia hinted that his magic was needed, yet there really hasn't been any mention on what that entails. And with this being(possibly) his final appearance this season, that would mean that revelation wont come up until next season, if it is to come up at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,883 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 I get what you are saying and I agree, I do like those aspects of Discord, but part of me feels that all of Discord's appearances after '' The Return of Harmony'' could have been centered around him as a villain and still had the same effect. The only thing that awaited Discord by staying a villain is the exact same process of Get stoned, break out through some plot device, cause havoc, get stoned again There's no room for expansion in any shape or form. This is usually true with any character powerful enough to warp reality. The writer's felt the same way, so here we are ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 January 28, 2014 Author Share January 28, 2014 The only thing that awaited Discord by staying a villain is the exact same process of Get stoned, break out through some plot device, cause havoc, get stoned again There's no room for expansion in any shape or form. This is usually true with any character powerful enough to warp reality. The writer's felt the same way, so here we are ^^ Good point. I hope that we atleast learn why Celestia wanted Discord reformed as I feel there must be a purpose, unless it was just a plot device. Which to me would be rather disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Silver Essence~ 2,625 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 He's in between since the incident in keep calm and flutter on episode. He's not chaotic, but not good either, he's in the category of chaotically neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiance64 7,053 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 Yeah, he's definitely not all good. He can't be evil anymore either, so he has to resort to just messing with ponies to have fun anymore, as long as he doesn't cause chaos far and wide. Good point. I hope that we atleast learn why Celestia wanted Discord reformed as I feel there must be a purpose, unless it was just a plot device. Which to me would be rather disappointing.Yeah, I'd like to see the full reasoning behind that too sometime, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 I'm gonna take this one step further. not only is he evil, he's more evil than he was before. And yes before he spread chaos because he was a chaos spirit who hurt people as a side effect of spreading chaos. He delights in seeing people wallow in anguish. His attitude about what he does makes him evil with out a doubt. I mean he always gloated before, but now he does it because he can't get his chaos fix, he simply has substitued spreading chaos with spreading misery. True or false? Show me where discord uses chaos for even morally ambigious reasons? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightDreamer 69 January 29, 2014 Share January 29, 2014 I'm pretty much teetering of the ends of trust and betrayal when it comes to Discord. On the one hand, he's just only doing his pranks and trolling ponies for his own amusement and on the other, he's probably just trying to pull the wool over everypony's eyes since he probably has a back-up plan to possibly reclaim Equestria for his own wants and desires. Other than that, I think he may be reformed but he was being just that in baby steps, little by little. However, being chaos incarnate, he's pretty much on both ends which are good and evil, neither one nor the other. He could be reformed, he just doesn't know how to properly approach and accept harmony and gain more of the ponies' trust although I wouldn't mind him learning a darn good lesson in one episode surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Hipster Pony 1 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 I do have a feeling discord was nice at first. Ever since the power pony episode it makes me feels that the villain became crazy by an accident. I have feeling that it is realated to it. Because when they defeat her for peace to get back home, it is kinda like how they defeated discord for peace and for their home back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singe 2,111 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 Discord is a fan favorite. Sombra and Sunset were terrible for villains. Celestia was smart to push to reform Discord. The seal on him won't last forever as 5 of the Mane 6 are not immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,394 February 1, 2014 Share February 1, 2014 @Singe, ...Of course, given a certain background event in Three's A Crowd, one could not-unreasonably accuse her of being "full of crap"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQiW8CNpfg By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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