GXPBlast 597 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 (edited) I have always wondered if Celestia and Luna are truly "immortal" in a sense where they are invincible and cant die from physical injury or illness. Of course the series will not show this as its meant to be able love, kindness, and friendship but lets put that aside. In my opinion I have always considered the Alicorns such as Celestia to be Demi-Gods realistically but "Gods" to the ponies in the show as there is no outside alien race to compare to. I believe they cannot age, but if damaged enough physically by some sort of nuke, volcano, extinction level event such as a SuperNova or SuperVolcanic eruption, they will not survive. Effects of Pyroclastic flows "One of the many possibilities is that the deadly fumes and ash can suffocate a person and or persons until they die from lack of oxygen. Another is that if they do not die from suffocation the ash if in a high enough quantity can bury you alive because it can get as deep as 20 feet. Also, pyroclastic flows are incredibly hot (they can reach temperatures of up to 1,000 °C) so the person would burn in a matter of seconds. "A pyroclastic flow will destroy nearly everything in its path. With rock fragments ranging in size from ash to boulders traveling across the ground at speeds typically greater than 80 km per hour, pyroclastic flows knock down, shatter, bury or carry away nearly all objects and structures in their way. The extreme temperatures of rocks and gas inside pyroclastic flows, can cause combustible material to burn, especially petroleum products, wood, vegetation, and houses. Pyroclastic flows vary considerably in size and speed, but even relatively small flows that move less than 5 km from a volcano can destroy buildings, forests, and farmland." Whats your take on this scenarios Supervolcano effect Awesome trailer from Pompeii Edited July 1, 2014 by GXPBlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 To show if they are truly immortal, there would have to be a scenario where there is a chance of them surviving or if they can not survive said scenario. But in the show, they are immortal and we still try to decide on how they are. 1 Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar tag: shipping 299 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 I believe they're immortal in the sense you described. Not only because of their age but they've also taken on a few occasions damage that is implied, at least to me, that would kill a normal pony. Celestia taking a full blast from NMM and Luna being hit with the full blast of the EoH and only being imprisoned on the moon being a couple examples. That same EoH blast killed Sombra remember? Then there's the trading card with them two on it that explicitly says that they're immortal. Just my thoughts. Sig by the one and only Doc Volt! Gone but not forgotten! Guess who's back!!! Luna damn it!Your PMs are not safe! Trust no one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 February 10, 2014 Author Share February 10, 2014 I believe they're immortal in the sense you described. Not only because of their age but they've also taken on a few occasions damage that is implied, at least to me, that would kill a normal pony. Celestia taking a full blast from NMM and Luna being hit with the full blast of the EoH and only being imprisoned on the moon being a couple examples. That same EoH blast killed Sombra remember? Then there's the trading card with them two on it that explicitly says that they're immortal. Just my thoughts. Which sense I described as I listed two? The one where they are truely Immortal no matter what, or just in terms of aging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar tag: shipping 299 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 I meant they're immortal no matter what. Sorry bout that. Sig by the one and only Doc Volt! Gone but not forgotten! Guess who's back!!! Luna damn it!Your PMs are not safe! Trust no one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 February 10, 2014 Author Share February 10, 2014 I meant they're immortal no matter what. Sorry bout that. I am not sure about that XD Supernova literally vaporizes a planets protective shield and in some cases destroys the planet itself and strips away all life. Also I have never seen an explosion in MLP that is as large as a 100 Megaton Nuke that the Alicorns have faced. But thats just me lol But that is what this thread is for to see what everypony thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubWolf 17,605 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 (edited) I have yet to read Fallout Equestria o.O. As for their immortality, I think they are immortal in the sense that they cannot die of old age. Their parents are never mentioned (probably died somehow or sacrificed themselves?), so a nuke could probably eliminate them if they don't defend themselves somehow. Edited February 10, 2014 by Wingin'Wolf Sig by Wolf, Handwriting by SparklingSwirls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddlejumper 1,648 February 10, 2014 Share February 10, 2014 Considering NMM was banished for 1000yrs, they were the ones who overthrew Discord who knows how long before that (and looked the same when they did that as shown in the flashback), plus who knows how long they were around before that. So yea, I say they are immortal, not invincible. There is a difference. Immortal means you can't die, but can be killed by certain outside means. Think vampires, death by sun but not much else. Invincible means you can't be killed, but you can die. For arguments sake, think Superman. Not much can hurt/kill him, but old age would eventually. In the end, a nuke more than likely would kill both Luna and Celestia. The blasts that they have endured so far were very specific spells meant to harm, not kill I'd say. Even if this wasn't a show for girls. If Chrysalis ran Celestia threw with her horn though, I'm sure she'd be done for unless magically healed. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i241/girsmj86/MLP/124343-animatedanimated_gifgifTrixie_zps4aa82173.gif WTB: Luna, Trixie dog tags & AJ blind bag | This fandom needs more Mane-iac! | AJ, Rarity, and Trixie trot into a bar. The Dreamcast didn't fail, we failed the Dreamcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 February 10, 2014 Author Share February 10, 2014 (edited) Also here is an awesome more clips from Pompeii and Supervolcano for caparison Edited February 10, 2014 by furgrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 February 12, 2014 Author Share February 12, 2014 (edited) Hey Guys Please Check Out My Videos I Listed for comparison, Edited February 23, 2014 by furgrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 February 13, 2014 Share February 13, 2014 Lets put it this way. Remember the s4 introduction episode? How Luna and Celestia were both encased in vines next to the tree of harmony? Lets put it this way- They can take massive damage, once they have reached their limit in the body that they are in, they will "respawn" next to the tree. May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion 20,279 February 13, 2014 Share February 13, 2014 Well, it's kinda my head cannon that yes, they can(although Twi aperntly will NOT outlive her friends!) live a very very VERY long time, but are far from immortal, we have seen nothing in the show yet that really proves that they have some unimiginalbe demi god like power, I mean sure they can raise the sun and moon, but before alicorns came along wasn't it stated somewhere that noraml unicorns use to take on the task? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 February 23, 2014 Author Share February 23, 2014 (edited) Well, it's kinda my head cannon that yes, they can(although Twi aperntly will NOT outlive her friends!) live a very very VERY long time, but are far from immortal, we have seen nothing in the show yet that really proves that they have some unimiginalbe demi god like power, I mean sure they can raise the sun and moon, but before alicorns came along wasn't it stated somewhere that noraml unicorns use to take on the task? Yep the other ponies took care of the sun and moon Edited March 10, 2014 by furgrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 July 1, 2014 Author Share July 1, 2014 (edited) On a side note in Fallout Equestria, Luna dies and Celestia tries to save her soul by putting into a machine while her body is incinerated after the war. Edited July 1, 2014 by GXPBlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 July 1, 2014 Share July 1, 2014 They are ageless immortals but whether they can or can't be killed is simply unknown. I like to believe that the princesses can be physically destroyed if damaged enough but they would be resurrected eventually. Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles 2,513 July 1, 2014 Share July 1, 2014 (although Twi aperntly will NOT outlive her friends!) Uhm. Say what? I mean, lemme make something (that is obvious anyway) clear. We aren't the makers of the show, so we can't know about when such any pony would die. And, the show ain't gonna kill a pony. Period. WITH that outta the way... I'm going to debate with you about Twilight. Firstly, the Mane 6 are all nearly the same age. Their ages are something of a debate, but whether you think they're in their teens, twenties, or whatever have you, we all gotta admit them as being close to each others age. So, for what reason do you have to believe that you think that Twilight isn't going to live as long as her friends? If I'm missing something from some fan made material that is not canon, just say "well yah, it's not canon" and if you care to say what it's from, ok, sure, go for it. BUT if it's something canon then by all means, please, tell me, what am I missing? I've watched the series from beginning to end (all episodes from s1 to s4 chronologically) like 4 times through. ~ Rise And Rise Again, Until Lambs Become Lions ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshower Raindrops 3,227 July 1, 2014 Share July 1, 2014 I personally think that they are biologically immortal. I kind of think of them like the immortal jellyfish. If they get sick they rejuvenate, if they are damaged they rejuvenate, if they are old they rejuvenate, but if they get very sick (ill) or mortally wounded (like stabbed by a sword) they will die no but's and's or or's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightGuard 251 July 1, 2014 Share July 1, 2014 (edited) Never read FE does it follow New Vegas or "3"? Anyways..Alicorns (besides Twilicorn) live forever. " First I get my hooves smashed, and then walks in the powder gangers Grim Fucking reaper! " ~ BoxCars in Fallout Equestria: New Pegasus. Edited July 1, 2014 by NightGuard . "Stupid Sexy Braeburn is best Braeburn" ~ NightGuard Signature Image by ~ Aeron-Quillson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celli 4,343 July 1, 2014 Share July 1, 2014 Actually, they're not technically immortal, they just age vastly slower than other ponies, so I don't think they would survive a natural disaster, were they caught in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 July 25, 2014 Author Share July 25, 2014 (edited) Just thought I would ad this to the list of disasters the alicorns may face. I dont think even rainbow dash seen weather like this lol. Edited July 25, 2014 by GXPBlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltoist 303 July 25, 2014 Share July 25, 2014 They can die from injuries but not from ageing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 September 8, 2014 Author Share September 8, 2014 I am sure @Darker might have thoughts on this lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowking58 1,137 September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 Lets put it this way. Remember the s4 introduction episode? How Luna and Celestia were both encased in vines next to the tree of harmony? Lets put it this way- They can take massive damage, once they have reached their limit in the body that they are in, they will "respawn" next to the tree. Just like in Call of Duty! (Or any first person shooter EVER!) All My OCS Quote “The only time a lawyer can cry is when it's all over." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,352 September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 (edited) The most destructive natural disasters are the Black Hole and the Supernova. No f*cking way Celestia or Luna survive that, especially since they are NOT immortal, in the sense that they could die from several injuries, but they can probably live forever. There is no one in the entire MLP-verse that could survive most natural disasters. Maybe by flying or by doing magic stuff, but nature is the strongest force of all time, nothing is truly equal to nature. Edited September 8, 2014 by Darker Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXPBlast 597 September 13, 2015 Author Share September 13, 2015 (edited) The most destructive natural disasters are the Black Hole and the Supernova. No f*cking way Celestia or Luna survive that, especially since they are NOT immortal, in the sense that they could die from several injuries, but they can probably live forever. There is no one in the entire MLP-verse that could survive most natural disasters. Maybe by flying or by doing magic stuff, but nature is the strongest force of all time, nothing is truly equal to nature. Nature is amazing. Some of the most famous volcanic eruption we know of have equaled thsoe of thousands of nuclear warheads going off. Edited September 13, 2015 by GXPBlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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