Twilight Mist 54 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 After watching several episodes from G1 I've come to the realisation that G1 is better than FIM. Let me explain: •G1 was handrawn. Badly yes, but that took effort. Anybody can use Flash nowadays. •G1 had better villians. Terak for example. He was a proper badass.Plus he was actually killed. Something that would never happen in FIM .FIM in my opinion takes itself too seriously. The makers of the G1 show knew that the core audience would be girls so didn't try too hard .The Brony community itself. With the rise of Bronydom the FIM creators have seemed anxious to please our every whim.If they are not careful Hasbro will begin to turn their core audience away. These are just my opinions tell me if you agree...or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 448 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 I personally don't like the looks of the characters in G1. They look like fat horses. I don't like my ponies looking like fat horses. 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight 7,286 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Personally, I always thought G1 looked downright hideous, while FiM looks nice and clean, but hey, that's just my opinion. Watch what you want to watch, no need to make a big deal about it. 17 matching setups with my bff pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowDashington 89 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Bronies are weird, yes. They whine about everything, occasionally. But we can't really compare the two generations fairly. The villains may be better in G1, but as far as I know, G4 has characters with more developed personalities. I haven't seen much of G1, but I kinda enjoy it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moved to Elsewhere 11,331 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 (edited) That's okay if you have your opinions. I still think g4 is the best but g1 was probably the most watchable out of the previous generations. The problem was the characters. Most of the characters were very boring and also well I get that the animation was limited to the time, I still found the actual designs to look a bit hard to look at. Edited February 12, 2014 by ChikoritaBrony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spingle Bloob 61 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 At least he didn't say Newborn Cuties. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhortac 1,474 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 You do realize that G1, along with just about every cartoon made in the 80's, was a 30 minute toy commercial? The sheer number of characters in G1 was just to sell more toys, and alot were just recolors. And who cares if FiM isn't fully hand drawn? It doesn't make it any less art, then drawing everything by hand. Also, the core audiance of FiM is EVERYBODY. We live in the 21st century, appealing to one group doesn't make as much money as it used to. One more thing; having death in a show doesn't make it better. Even Transformers never had death, until the 1988 movie, and look how big that series is. 10 Feel free to add me on steam if you want to play something. Also don't be afraid to message and talk to me. I've had bad luck when I start a conversation, so I more then likely won't start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Silver Essence~ 2,625 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 I guess we all have our preferences, but nothing too big to fret about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Ward 377 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Fun fact, Generation 1 was also made for boys and girls. AlleyKat666 on deviantART <--- That's me! http://mlpforums.com/topic/69466-psych-wards-commissions-hats-necklaces-and-bracelets-oh-my/ <--- Commissions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Mist 54 February 12, 2014 Author Share February 12, 2014 You do realize that G1, along with just about every cartoon made in the 80's, was a 30 minute toy commercial? The sheer number of characters in G1 was just to sell more toys, and alot were just recolors. And who cares if FiM isn't fully hand drawn? It doesn't make it any less art, then drawing everything by hand. Also, the core audiance of FiM is EVERYBODY. We live in the 21st century, appealing to one group doesn't make as much money as it used to. One more thing; having death in a show doesn't make it better. Even Transformers never had death, until the 1988 movie, and look how big that series is. Let's be clear. That's exactly FIM's purpose as well. Just to shift as much stock as possible. The problem is the creators have forgot that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhortac 1,474 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Let's be clear. That's exactly FIM's purpose as well. Just to shift as much stock as possible. The problem is the creators have forgot that! At least they're honest about it. G1 was defenetly intended for young girls, and I really doubt they really were begging for a super villain, and death to be in their show about pretty colored talking ponies. Feel free to add me on steam if you want to play something. Also don't be afraid to message and talk to me. I've had bad luck when I start a conversation, so I more then likely won't start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarentheUnicorn 218 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 You do realize that G1, along with just about every cartoon made in the 80's, was a 30 minute toy commercial? The sheer number of characters in G1 was just to sell more toys, and alot were just recolors. And who cares if FiM isn't fully hand drawn? It doesn't make it any less art, then drawing everything by hand. Also, the core audiance of FiM is EVERYBODY. We live in the 21st century, appealing to one group doesn't make as much money as it used to. One more thing; having death in a show doesn't make it better. Even Transformers never had death, until the 1988 movie, and look how big that series is. FIM is made to sell toys. I'm really tired of seeing this argument used against MLP cartoons that are other than FIM. It's a pointless comment/argument used to insult when it's the pot calling the kettle black. G4 is made to sell toys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylar 1,641 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 (edited) Well all I can say is have fun watching a 30 year old show, meanwhile we will still be enjoying ourselves with FIM Kind of didn't need to be made into a topic / debate though since you are just stating why your turning your back on FIM, question though, if you are going away from FIM are you going to leave the forums as well? Since it's almost 100% centered around G4 Edited February 12, 2014 by Skylar 3 Character Backstory: http://mlpforums.com/blog/1210/entry-7077-a-life-without-limits/ You are stardust that’s beaten the odds and combined perfectly. You are both the moon you walk under and the ground you walk on. You are a part of it all, neither big nor small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReverseFaller 2,483 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 WheatleyCore, on 12 Feb 2014 - 4:08 PM, said:Personally, I always thought G1 looked downright hideous, while FiM looks nice and clean, but hey, that's just my opinion. Watch what you want to watch, no need to make a big deal about it. I agree with this completely. I always thought the older pony toys looked kind of creepy as well. 4 Credit for the signature goes to Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpop198 696 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 (edited) Well, you did ask. I don't agree with you at all. Really FiM is vastly superior. Edited February 12, 2014 by pony12343 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dddrgn 450 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Yeah, I agree with these guys... G1 looked downright awful, there were plenty of nice looking hand-drawn cartoons, so they should have done better. The villains were more villainous, but does that make them better? Not really. The current gen takes itself seriously, and that's a good thing, it's what allows for such good character development - which G1 lacks. 5 "You must never give in to despair. Allow yourself to slip down that road, and you surrender to your lowest instincts. In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself. That is the meaning of inner strength." - Uncle Iroh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 G1 had that classic look, which I totally didn't mind. It wasn't as deep as FIM, but hey, I still enjoyed it. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWg-TtBRMfqketa1ELyKGg Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/menelik-david-kenneth-cannady 2nd SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thunder-dash-alternative/tracks Pony.fm: https://pony.fm/thunder-dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyan Blue 946 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 (edited) I respect your opinion but I couldn't disagree less. Edited February 12, 2014 by Cyan Blue 1 Sweet Sig by Lunia Avatar Image by PegasisterJayfeather CM By Scilight Paitanibu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhortac 1,474 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 FIM is made to sell toys. I'm really tired of seeing this argument used against MLP cartoons that are other than FIM. It's a pointless comment/argument used to insult when it's the pot calling the kettle black. G4 is made to sell toys. I never said it wasn't. The only difference is, FiM wasn't originaly made for that purpose; where as, the original was. When FiM got big, then they focused on toys more, but they still haven't added a flood of characters to the main roster, like the original and alot of 80's cartoons, which were made from day one to advertise the toy line. FiM is kinda like Power Rangers, originaly wasn't made to pander toys (Although, PR was mostly done to increase raitings on a few networks), it did start to head to the toy route when the popularity became higher then expected. 1 Feel free to add me on steam if you want to play something. Also don't be afraid to message and talk to me. I've had bad luck when I start a conversation, so I more then likely won't start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Mist 54 February 12, 2014 Author Share February 12, 2014 Hey I still like this community it's just I think we're beginning to have a bit too much influence on the show! Take my 9yr old niece as an example. She was just beginning to get into the show but when she suddenly found out about us bronies she suddenly lost interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mane-iac 1,648 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Let's be clear. That's exactly FIM's purpose as well. Just to shift as much stock as possible. The problem is the creators have forgot that! Even if that was the case, that's bad how? Shows should not be made just to move products IMO, product should come from good shows that warrant the production of merchandise. This is of course how most stuff works, except for the fact that Hasbro is a toy company so that is their priority. I've never watched G1, and probably never will. It looks horribly drawn IMO which is enough to make me steer clear. As an artist myself I can see the merits in the classically drawn cartoons, but the newer stuff takes just as much work. It may not be hand drawn, but the story is a lot better then most old cartoons. The old generations are just creepy IMO though, it's like they drew the ponies from someones nightmare fuel rather than studying real ones. While the new ones are not realistic in style, at least they got the trot and stuff right by studying. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. If you don't enjoy FIM anymore, it doesn't need to be a multi-topic deal. 4 WTB: Luna, Trixie dog tags & AJ blind bag | This fandom needs more Mane-iac! | AJ, Rarity, and Trixie trot into a bar. The Dreamcast didn't fail, we failed the Dreamcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 Guys, don't take the bait. From this persons post history they appear to be a really smart troll. It consists of these topics about G1, and asking people if they use illegal drugs. 4 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 (edited) Let's be clear. That's exactly FIM's purpose as well. Just to shift as much stock as possible. The problem is the creators have forgot that! So trading a commercial with lackluster characters with a show full of developed characters and world building is bad now? I am glad Lauren Faust abandoned the old formula, the show fell to much into the female stereotype for it to be enjoyable by anyone outside of its intended audience. I will give that the story was a bit darker but that was literally at the cost of having any memorable characters. No matter how effortless it is to use flash vs handdrawn, G4 clearly put more effort in story, characters, even songs than any previous generation before it. Edited February 12, 2014 by LordDiscord 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deesinn 393 February 12, 2014 Share February 12, 2014 An important feature that draws a ton of people into FiM is the ascetics of the environment and characters. I watched a few clips of G1, and I hate how it looks, so no matter how good the stories actually are, I would have a very hard time enjoying myself. FiM is very very pleasing to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Mist 54 February 12, 2014 Author Share February 12, 2014 Guys, don't take the bait. From this persons post history they appear to be a really smart troll. It consists of these topics about G1, and asking people if they use illegal drugs. How does liking a previous generation make me a troll? Just because I don't love everything about our community or the show also doesn't make me a troll! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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