Serbon div 386 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 OMG! PER member detected! What the buck is PER member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,261 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 What the buck is PER member? It'll get off-topic so, I'll send you a message. https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 (edited) Sombra was being Pony!Hitler at the time; of course somepony needed to depose him! Sombra, who is this Sombra? He sounds like my kind of pony! I seriously hope I didn't offend anypony with what passes as humor with me. Edited March 19, 2014 by cuteycindyhoney 1 Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 March 19, 2014 Author Share March 19, 2014 Ever heard of Occam's Razor? It's not really a solution if you have to introduce new elements to the discussion so that you hypothesis works. Let's deconstruct this conversation. You think that the problem is the diarchy. That there is no participation of the populace in the process of decision making and you think that the princesses might be corrupt. Right? What is it that you think that they are doing that harms ponies? The very fact that they don't have a say in who runs the nation is a kind of slavery. I studied medieval history at uni and I can tell you that nobody liked absolute monarchy. Not even the Lords. The kings and queens kept their hold on power by saying that they were Gods representatives on earth. I would say that Luna and Celestia have cultivated a similar image! Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribbonfree 2,383 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 The very fact that they don't have a say in who runs the nation is a kind of slavery. I studied medieval history at uni and I can tell you that nobody liked absolute monarchy. Not even the Lords. The kings and queens kept their hold on power by saying that they were Gods representatives on earth. I would say that Luna and Celestia have cultivated a similar image! The difference here being that nobody actually has been shown to dislike them. Unlike history where we have accounts of how the populace typically disliked their monarchs and we have historical evidence of their incompetence and mistakes costing their nations, the ponies of Equestria, canonically, show no discontent with their rulers. The examples provided, at any rate. Could they be tyrants? In fanon, sure, if you expand the universe and show us more viewpoints. But canonically they seem to be doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Queen Chrysalis achieving her life long dream and conquering Equestria. Rules while sitting in Canterlot...Has Celestia, Luna, Twilight and Cadence sitting on her right hoof as her faithful servants(Went into bad fan fiction territory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Princess Celestia seems to me to be a much nicer version of Terry Pratchett's benevolent despot, Lord Vetinari. Celestia lets the country pretty much run itself, as does Havelock Vetinari. They both only step in when specific problems arise that need their very special skill-sets. Lord Vetinari has Sam Vimes, and Moist Von Lipwig to toss at any growing problem, while Celestia has Princess Twilight Sparkle. It's a good system, and seems to be working wonders on both Discworld and Equestria. Remember, one pony, one vote. Celestia is the pony, and she's got the vote! Although in my headcanon, Celestia is grooming Twilight to take over as ruler, so she and Luna can return to their own planet. (Yes, They're either Gods, Angels or aliens!) Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,261 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 The very fact that they don't have a say in who runs the nation is a kind of slavery. I studied medieval history at uni and I can tell you that nobody liked absolute monarchy. Not even the Lords. The kings and queens kept their hold on power by saying that they were Gods representatives on earth. I would say that Luna and Celestia have cultivated a similar image! People kinda answered already, but I feel I should too. You feel this way because in our world leaders don't sprout wings and horns naturally when some magic above comprehension deems them prepared to lead in some way. Like I said before: Equestria is not Earth. I agree that they have cultivated this image that is similar, but in their case, they are not lying about it. 1 https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Sure it would be a fresh, new change for the show, but I'm okay with Celestia and Luna still ruling Equestria. You might say that it should be different, but I'm okay with that. Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,261 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 I would like to remind everyone of the fact that Princess Luna and Princess Celestia kick ass. First of all. Everyone adores them. Second of all. Ponies. Though a parliament would look pretty funny in a pony world xD. It would make equestria too complex aswell. I need to clarify something. The problem I have with a parliament is that it implies the use of the "democratic process" to elect members of this parliament. After all, if the princesses chose the members, it would be meaningless. The problem with that is that an election is very good at choosing individuals that are good at convincing people, not at choosing the ones that are good at getting the job done. So I rather trust the princesses to know what they are doing. https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Here's a question out of left field. Is Mayor Mare actually Ponyville's Bürgermeister? Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cedar 1,408 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Why do I have visions of a pony in ragged clothes with a cart uttering the words: "You're deluding yourself. We're living in a dictatorship - a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the ruling classes..." 1 Roleplaying OC: Red Cedar - Cast Character: Applejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil 685 March 19, 2014 Share March 19, 2014 Ponyville does have a Mayor... but we don't know if they are elected, so there may be some form of representative government bodies in Equestria. Although, as someone kinda mentioned, Celestia seems to be a ruler that only steps that uses her power if necessary or uses her political authority in some instances ( e.g. Diplomatic functions and other boring stuff ). Though Celestia has been doing a fine job according to the worlds canon. The only potential problem with a Monarchy is the possibility a monarchs kid may turn out to be a loser, but Celestia and Luna are both immortals so that's not really a concern. Also, as an aside: If we want to bring up who could rule by "Divine Right", I think the immortal creature that governs the movements of a celestial body could arguably have that . Why do I have visions of a pony in ragged clothes with a cart uttering the words: "You're deluding yourself. We're living in a dictatorship - a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the ruling classes..." If there is a comic or episode portraying Celestia and Luna's rise to power, I'm now picturing a "Help! I'm being oppressed!" scene. 2 I know there's a place you walkedWhere love falls from the treesMy heart is like a broken cupI only feel right on my knees.I spit out like a sewer holeYet still receive your kissHow can I measure up to anyone nowAfter such a love as this? The Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion 20,267 March 20, 2014 Share March 20, 2014 Discord, Discord is going to be the ultimate super king of ALL OF EQUESTRIA!!! *evil laugh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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