Adachi 772 March 21, 2014 Author Share March 21, 2014 (edited) If this happened, church and state would merge. All religions except for a pony-religion would collapse, and even the pony-religion may not be considered a religion since it would be undeniable fact. Other than that, it is very hard for me to imagine all of the good things that would come out of this, and even harder to imagine any negatives. However, our world has lots of technology and other cultural aspects that Celestia (and other princesses) would not be able to comprehend quickly. I think Celestia would be far too humble to accept worshippers, and at the first sign of worship, she would ask that people don't worship her. Even in Equestria, her people don't see her as a goddess, but as a princess, even though she has divine powers, so is technically a goddess as well as a princess). Although I doubt that would stop many people from worshipping her anyway. I think most people would stick with their religion, especially in Asian countries and Middle Eastern countries, where people are a lot more traditional than the west. Also, if Bill Clinton could read a huge thick book on Russian culture on a flight to Russia and know more about Russia than the Russians from that one flight, then I'm sure Celestia could learn more than enough about our world, if she's given a decent amount of time to prepare (she could obviously study before she even goes to the summit, with help of the one who is keeping her safe until she goes). And if she did go to our world with the intent of helping us, I believe she would've prepared months, maybe years ago, and by the time she got here she would know everything about us. And even if she knew little/nothing about our planet, mostly she would just need to listen to the other people speaking, and obviously read a map, but she would be bright enough to know what to say in a lot of cases. Although, I'm not sure how she'd do when trying to solve problems that stem from religious differences, that is a touchy subject. But maybe seeing a magical 1000 year old talking pony would make them be a little less militant about their religions, and show them that they don't know everything xD As for what she would offer, she would offer simple, but effective fixes to problems. If needed, she could even send some ponies to go around and fix problems for different countries. A lot of countries are at war because of famine and poverty. She could send some earth ponies to those regions to help grow crops. The unicorns could help developing countries industrialize, since they have a lot of intellect. They could make machines that run on magic, like what the Flim Flam bros did. Although once all the ponies leave, the question is, how do we keep the machines running when they run out of power? I was gonna say the Pegasi could change the weather in areas that are hit by famine, but weather works differently here. Although maybe they would still have some kind of effect. Thought of another thing. Although it wouldn't be as cool, it would still be cool if they sent another pony to discuss peace. Possibly Zecora? She's also wise (maybe even wiser than Celestia, although nopony has Celestia's gift of putting people at ease. She could come up with ways to cure illnesses that were thought incurable, and grow food in places that were thought barren. Luna could be another candidate, although if Celestia wouldn't go due to her people needing her too much, Luna probably wouldn't go either, although I think she would be more likely to take pity on the people but who knows. She would be as well received as Celestia I think, if she could stop yelling in THE TRADITIONAL CANTERLOT VOICE! xD Edited March 21, 2014 by Ryudo 1 “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedog68 71 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 Why not bring in some more ponies while were at it? Derp it up with Derpy hooves and elect Rainbow dash as president of the US! A pony can dream My OC - Ice Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 Celestia's political decisions are terrible. She forgave a genocidal maniac(Luna), she forgave a god of chaos who caused untold damage(Discord), and life in Equestria is fraught with danger considering the amount of beasts there 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardhacandra 133 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 Of course, Pinkie Pie could make a killer party after the peace summit xD We all know where that could lead too.. (Over a Barrel, anyone?) Anyway, I think it woul be awesome xD Humans are a nasty bunch, for sure, but.. I have faith in celestia. She isn't soft if it can't be helped, either. Banishing your sister because of the good of everypony is hard on your self.. She might not be able to stop every little bit of nastyness, but she can sure help. Maybe even bring world peace, yes. Something (or someone) is TRULY discriminated against if we can't talk about it without any fear of suffering prejudice yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 21, 2014 Author Share March 21, 2014 (edited) Celestia's political decisions are terrible. She forgave a genocidal maniac(Luna), she forgave a god of chaos who caused untold damage(Discord), and life in Equestria is fraught with danger considering the amount of beasts there That "genocidal maniac" was her sister. Let me rephrase that. She was no longer Luna. Luna was trapped inside this maniac. The maniac did come to being because of Luna's jealousy, but she had to repress all that jealousy for so long with nobody to relate to. Basically, what happened, is she became a heartless, except with her original form still inside. The elements of harmony purified her of any evil that built up within her. As for Discord, maybe she had to free him eventually? Or the spell wouldn't last forever, and he would've gotten free one way or another? As for the beasts, they're usually only a problem in the Everfree Forest. The cows that stampede are sentient, although not to the point of ponies. Although it would still be wrong to keep them locked up. Edited March 21, 2014 by Ryudo “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @, Luna was already about to lead a coup before transforming With Discord, that was still irresponsible. He was on the verge of winning Not to mention they keep sentient cows as slaves "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @, Luna was already about to lead a coup before transforming With Discord, that was still irresponsible. He was on the verge of winning Not to mention they keep sentient cows as slaves They do? I wouldn't really count the cows/other animals as "sentient" , I would say "humanlike nature" because they cannot speak, and they have limited thought processes. You could say that man slaves cows too, you know. Anyways- This show- really just a cartoon, has done really alot for the world already, I mean, look how gentrified the whole community is. Who knew a community of people who like cartoon ponies could be so warmhearted and tolerant . Oh it would be but a dream to have that happen, but based on my beliefs the second coming of christ wlll do just that May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Yeah, but cows in our world don't talk(to our knowledge). They also have no humanish feelings(to our knowledge). The cows in the pony world talk and can reason, albeit badly. Ponies are also rather racist, see their constant jokes about mules and the fact that Rarity talks about Gilda like she's an animal(Gryphons are so rare). There's also the Diamond Dogs who are apparently stuck mining gems and in poverty since ponies don;t care about them. And I really hate to bust your bubble, but trust me, this fandom isn't all fun and games. There's quite a lot of infighting and love and tolerance gets tossed out the window so often, no one uses it anymore. Our fandom is very large, true, but it's not as nice as you think. One person defaced a bronze statue so it looked like RD and people praised this act of vandalism "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 21, 2014 Author Share March 21, 2014 @, Luna was already about to lead a coup before transforming With Discord, that was still irresponsible. He was on the verge of winning Not to mention they keep sentient cows as slaves I think the darkness already took hold before she finished her outward transformation. Regardless, 1000 years is enough punishment, especially considering that that wasn't even Luna in control at the time. You could be right about Discord. Ultimately though, I think Celestia had faith in the mane 6 to reform him. And Discord never did anything that evil, just cause chaos. He's a god of chaos, that's what he does. But they taught him how to use his powers for good. Also, being a god, he was incapable of being destroyed. Rather than constantly having to seal him again and again, she did the next best thing and reformed him so that he wouldn't cause trouble anymore. As for the cows, I think the cows and ponies have a mutual benefit relationship. The ponies milk the cows, while the cows allow them to keep the milk they get. Fluttershy has a zoo in her backyard, but the animals there don't look unhappy. Keep in mind that this is a cartoon. If there was a real Equestria, things could be a lot different. “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @, Discord is a spirit, not a god. We don't know if he's unkillable or not. In any case, he'd the spirit of "discord" not chaos. Discord(the word) refers to breaking friendships apart and causing strife, ergo, evil. There's also him brainwashing people and causing property damage. Still, the cows get penned up and the end of the day, barked at by dogs, and lassoed. The animals in Fluttery's yard are free to go as they please, she doesn't keep them caged up "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 (edited) @@TheChosenPony, Yeah, but cows in our world don't talk(to our knowledge). They also have no humanish feelings(to our knowledge). The cows in the pony world talk and can reason, albeit badly. Ponies are also rather racist, see their constant jokes about mules and the fact that Rarity talks about Gilda like she's an animal(Gryphons are so rare). There's also the Diamond Dogs who are apparently stuck mining gems and in poverty since ponies don;t care about them. And I really hate to bust your bubble, but trust me, this fandom isn't all fun and games. There's quite a lot of infighting and love and tolerance gets tossed out the window so often, no one uses it anymore. Our fandom is very large, true, but it's not as nice as you think. One person defaced a bronze statue so it looked like RD and people praised this act of vandalism RD only said that because gryphons act like complete assholes, you saw how gilda acted didn't you? Gryphons eat ponies What constant jokes about mules? The only mule i've seen was doodle donkey, and pinkie never made fun of him, she wanted to be his friend. I never saw the cows being caged, I only saw them run in herds that have to be kept together by someone else, They probably aren't that bright Edited March 21, 2014 by TheChosenPony May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine 707 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 Doesn't Celestia have the power to ........... move the sun? I'm not up to speed on my Equestrian astrophysics but I'm pretty sure here on earth that could very easily *kill us all*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Because one gryphon acts like an ass hole, they must all be assholes, right? Gustave Le Grande doesn't seem like a bad guy and neither do the gryphons at the Equestria Games. Also, where do you get that gryphons eat ponies? Gilda seemed fine with eating lemon drops and Gustave liked eclaire. Doodle Donkey isn't a mule, he's a donkey(kind of obvious). And no, they've made plenty of jokes against mules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF3mw6ea_F8 RD also did one and when Rarity was called a mule, she says they're "Ugly, smelly, disgusting". "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Because one gryphon acts like an ass hole, they must all be assholes, right? Gustave Le Grande doesn't seem like a bad guy and neither do the gryphons at the Equestria Games. Also, where do you get that gryphons eat ponies? Gilda seemed fine with eating lemon drops and Gustave liked eclaire. Doodle Donkey isn't a mule, he's a donkey(kind of obvious). And no, they've made plenty of jokes against mules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF3mw6ea_F8 RD also did one and when Rarity was called a mule, she says they're "Ugly, smelly, disgusting". Gryphons are carnivores, its most likely they do eat ponies, Rarity doesn't like dirty things, you know rarity, why would she like a dirty mule? Man make jokes about mules as well, and I'm pretty sure the mules aren't sentient. In this case the "master race" would be ponies instead of humans, I wouldn't say it would be "racist". It's not racist to make jokes about monkeys now is it? May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koelath 445 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 This world has no problems. Humanity has problems. And they can't be fixed because humans don't listen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 (edited) Celestia's political decisions are terrible. She forgave a genocidal maniac(Luna), she forgave a god of chaos who caused untold damage(Discord), and life in Equestria is fraught with danger considering the amount of beasts there Equetria isn't dangerous, celestia has more than enough beasts imprisoned in the underworld. Discord was forgiven and reformed, and Luna was resentful for her foolish actions as she knew very well that forever night would cause equestria to freeze over. Edited March 21, 2014 by TheChosenPony 1 May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Where is the evidence that MLP gryphons are carnivores? Gustave happily ate chocolate, Gilda ate cake and lemon drops. Even if they were carnivores, why go after ponies when they could eat bunnies or something? Are you kidding me?! Mules in the MLP world are sentient, they can talk, they can reason, they have feelings. The mules in our world do not. No, the way the ponies act is more like whites to blacks during the 50s. It's not racist to make jokes about monkeys because the monkeys can't understand us nor talk with us Equetria isn't dangerous, celestia has more than enough beasts imprisoned in the underworld. Discord was forgiven and reformed, and Luna was resentful for her foolish actions as she knew very well that forever night would cause equestria to freeze over. Discord was a huge gamble, what if he didn't reform? Celestia would have caused untold destruction on a hunch. And the dragons that could come at any time and don't give a crap about Celestia certainly aren't locked in Tartarus "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Where is the evidence that MLP gryphons are carnivores? Gustave happily ate chocolate, Gilda ate cake and lemon drops. Even if they were carnivores, why go after ponies when they could eat bunnies or something? Are you kidding me?! Mules in the MLP world are sentient, they can talk, they can reason, they have feelings. The mules in our world do not. No, the way the ponies act is more like whites to blacks during the 50s. It's not racist to make jokes about monkeys because the monkeys can't understand us nor talk with us Some monkeys have been shown to understand us with sign language, you know. MLP is based off of ancient Greek and Roman mythology, RD made fun of her once she was mean.... It seems pretty much like all the animals in equestria are sentient in some way. Making fun of another species of animal is not "racist" mules aren't ponies, they go along the lines of a donkey, (a mule is an offspring of a donkey and a horse, with more donkey chromosomes, and a hinny is the same with more horse chromosones) May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@TheChosenPony, Those are apes, not monkeys. Second of all, those apes required years of education and once they were at that level, they are rare and not a typical ape. The mules and cows in Equestria are not rare, they're the same as ponies intelligence wise. I was referring to Rarity's comment about gryphons being rare. The way it was phrased is like calling a black person rare. Fine, it's specist. The point, is they make other species the butt of their jokes, imprison them, and hunt them down like dogs if they try to escape "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmonic Revelations 8,835 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 From the title of this thread, I can only assume the OP is hoping that the section of the fanbase that consists of whimsical wish-granting genies reads this. But yes, I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@Singularity, First off, your first comment is great Second of all, I find your opinion ironic when you have Darklestia as an avi 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 The main advantage Celestia has over any human leaders is life span. Humans can forget things when those who experienced the darker times die and fade to history. My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmonic Revelations 8,835 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@Singularity, First off, your first comment is great Second of all, I find your opinion ironic when you have Darklestia as an avi Of course I hold said opinion, Celestia is my favorite pony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 (edited) @@Malinter, Celestia's memory sucks considering she left Discord's statue out in a garden where it could be awakened by squabbling. There's also her enormous failure to realize there was anything wrong with Cadence, even when Chrysalis might as well have had a sign saying "I am evil!" Edited March 21, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 March 21, 2014 Share March 21, 2014 @@Malinter, Celestia's memory sucks considering she left Discord's statue out in a garden where it could be awakened by squabbling. There's also her enormous failure to realize there was anything wrong with Cadence, even when Chrysalis might as well have had a sign saying "I am evil!" To be fair, he's an master of chaos, she could have put him on the moon and he'll have just escaped and teleport back in. If anything she just put him somewhere where if he did get out she could get the elements on him. 1 My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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