gaming DEATH BATTLE

[Galen 1,354]

Yeah, and SSG Goku was able to keep up with Beerus at 70% which is still pretty significant. SSGSSJ should be around 85-90% Beerus if you scale him to Golden Frieza who sits at 90-95% Beerus iirc. Realistically, he should be superior to new 52 Superman, tho tbf, even base Goku ought to be able to take him in terms of DC and durability. He'd only need SSG to keep up with Superman's speed.

 

On a side note, pretty interesting to see other people from NF here

 

EDIT: Here's the full calc

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26324

Edited July 14, 2015 by Galen

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

So, new can of beans: apparently DBZ is confirmed MFTL.

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1042070

 

Long story short; In an episode of the new Super, Beerus flew outside and past a nebulae and into a new one in under two minutes. Scaling applies this to Whis, and Goku should only be slightly behind him in speed, since he held up a decent fight with him.

Crap, so they're mftl. So dbz is now in mid tier of marvel and dc now?

 

Also does this mean he beats Superman now?

Solar System+ and MFTL means that they're equal or higher than a good majority of the current mid tiers, including new 52 supes, so i'd have to say yes.

See? I was right. And honestly I think it should've been obvious from the start that the DBZ characters were FTL. They're way faster than Superman. Not to mention easily strong enough to break through his durability level. I'd really love to see Superman try to fight somebody as powerful as Beerus or Whis. Or even Majin Buu for that matter. And I've seen how easily Superman can be hurt. He's not invincible. Far from it. Just about anybody in DBZ is strong enough to easily hurt Superman and make him bleed if they hit him. The attacks the DBZ characters have would easily break through his durability level. Hell these guys could tear Superman's arm off and then beat him to death with the soggy end...

Edited July 14, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

Majin Buu vs Superman would be overkill. Superman would be faster but that's meaningless in the face of Buu's regen. DC is obviously higher.

 

I don't want SA dealing with it tho considering how they had Kirby beat Buu (and Toph beat Gaara).

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Majin Buu vs Superman would be overkill. Superman would be faster but that's meaningless in the face of Buu's regen. DC is obviously higher.

 

I don't want SA dealing with it tho considering how they had Kirby beat Buu (and Toph beat Gaara).

Majin Buu would stomp Superman hard. Just one Planet Burst attack and then boom no more Superman. I would say Superman is only around Perfect Cell's level at best.

[Galen 1,354]

Weren't you the one who said Cell was galaxy level+? New 52 Superman isn't even at Frieza's level since his DC is planet level+ along with his durability, so he should actually be somewhere between Saiyan arc Vegeta and Ginyu in those areas. Superman's sole advantage is literally his speed compared to any DBZ character up to the Buu arc, and it's not even a great advantage since it's Superman's FTL speed vs sub-relativisitc to relativistic speeds of top-tier Buu arc characters.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Galen

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Weren't you the one who said Cell was galaxy level+? New 52 Superman isn't even at Frieza's level since his DC is planet level+ along with his durability, so he should actually be somewhere between Saiyan arc Vegeta and Ginyu in those areas. Superman's sole advantage is literally his speed compared to any DBZ character up to the Buu arc, and it's not even a great advantage since it's Superman's FTL speed vs sub-relativisitc to relativistic speeds of top-tier Buu arc characters.

If we're talking about Superman from any of the cartoons like Justice League Unlimited etc. I would definitely say yes.

 

But if we're talking about Comic Superman I would say he's at either Frieza's or Cell's level. To be fair it really depends on which Superman we're talking about. Most of Goku's forms would own alot of Superman's forms but some versions of Superman would definitely own all of Goku's forms.

[JamesBobbyDReed 103]

They should do dusty katt vs solrac

[Galen 1,354]

If we're talking about Superman from any of the cartoons like Justice League Unlimited etc. I would definitely say yes.

 

But if we're talking about Comic Superman I would say he's at either Frieza's or Cell's level. To be fair it really depends on which Superman we're talking about. Most of Goku's forms would own alot of Superman's forms but some versions of Superman would definitely own all of Goku's forms.

 

Hm, seems like you're right. I was underestimating Superman by saying base forms could take him. But tbf, there's many versions of comic Superman. Pre-crisis Superman, Superman Prime and Superman 1mil are the only iterations of Superman who can be considered galaxy level+/universal assuming you're still thinking Cell is galaxy level (which would also be wrong as he sits at large planet level+ for DC and durability and MHS for speed or sub-relativistic depending on which Cell you refer to, either Perfect or Super Perfect Cell respectively). As you pointed out before tho, those are not the version of Superman SA used. New-52 Superman, the one SA is in fact using, is at best large planet level+ in terms of DC and durability and FTL in terms of speed, so as you say, he would be at Cell's level for DC but well above Cell's durability and speed. Those are still nothing compared to Beerus, and by way of scaling, Golden Frieza, SSGSSJ Goku and Vegeta would all destroy him.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Galen

[Fiery Shadow 109]

I have a suggestion!

 

Major Laurence "Prophet" Barnes from the crysis series.

VS

Master Chief from halo.

 

Who would win?

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Hm, seems like you're right. I was underestimating Superman by saying base forms could take him. But tbf, there's many versions of comic Superman. Pre-crisis Superman, Superman Prime and Superman 1mil are the only iterations of Superman who can be considered galaxy level+/universal assuming you're still thinking Cell is galaxy level (which would also be wrong as he sits at large planet level+ for DC and durability and MHS for speed or sub-relativistic depending on which Cell you refer to, either Perfect or Super Perfect Cell respectively). As you pointed out before tho, those are not the version of Superman SA used. New-52 Superman, the one SA is in fact using, is at best large planet level+ in terms of DC and durability and FTL in terms of speed, so as you say, he would be at Cell's level for DC but well above Cell's durability and speed. Those are still nothing compared to Beerus, and by way of scaling, Golden Frieza, SSGSSJ Goku and Vegeta would all destroy him.

Based on what I'm seeing here I would definitely say Goku beats all versions of Superman except for New-52 Superman, Pre-crisis Superman, Superman Prime and Superman 1 million. Battle of The Gods Goku and beyond that could probably take New-52 Superman though.

 

I've yet to see Superman destroy a planet with his strength though as they're stating in those links.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

You can very well scale Goku to Beerus, who is star system level/large star level (depending on your interpretation of either one), so Goku far outclasses new 52 Superman. Only pre-crisis, prime and 1 mil are the superior iterations of Superman.

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

They should really do Hulk VS Doomsday.

[Fractured 2,684]

They should really do Hulk VS Doomsday.

They really shouldn't. Doomsday outclasses hulk in speed and strength, and has the ability to auto-adapt to counter his abilities. He could easily find a way to rip all of the radiation out of him; it's been done plenty of times before.

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

They really shouldn't. Doomsday outclasses hulk in speed and strength, and has the ability to auto-adapt to counter his abilities. He could easily find a way to rip all of the radiation out of him; it's been done plenty of times before.

Hulk's strength doesn't match Doomsday's. But it really depends on the Hulk. Some Hulks are weaker and Doomsday owns those. But Savage Hulk was able to tank a blast from Galactus, in which case, he godstomps Doomsday. If we're allowing Savage Hulk or Zombie Hulk, then Hulk stomps Doomsday.

[Raito 28]

When garaa lost i stopped watching, i mean, come on...

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

Good news everyone. It turns out it's been confirmed that Goku WILL be using his newest Super Form in addition to Super Saiyan God.

Edited July 18, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Denim&Venöm 19,268]

Goku vs. Superman round 2 live stream @ 8pm CST. Set your alarms folks! 

 

I'm gonna have to cause I'm going to bed now. 

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

I cannot wait for this. I'm not gonna place any wagers this time but I'm definitely rooting for Goku I know that much.

Edited July 18, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Denim&Venöm 19,268]

Kinda  Death Battle related. A good way to prep for tonight's show. 

Update: And in the words of Bruce Buffer: And we... are live!

 

Update: A 'this is awesome' chant, followed by rallying around the Goku cosplayer. Things are off to a good start. And we haven't even begun rolling yet.

Edited July 19, 2015 by Denim&Venom

[Megas 27,764]

No matter what happens the Shitstorm that follows will be as big as the last

[LongGoneGr 1,305]

After that I feel it only fitting to post this:

 

Not trying to start something, just in good humor to the large amount of butthurt fans.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Screw attack mentioned outskirts battle dome. Corona, how do they feel being mentioned?

[Sazama Ichida 2,367]

 

*in Darth Vader Voice*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Why...Oh why...Well no matter...I'll still always love you Goku...You'll always be in my heart...

I understand now though...They made it perfectly clear why Superman wins...I honestly couldn't argue with this video even if I tried...

 

Edited July 19, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[LongGoneGr 1,305]

 

*in Darth Vader Voice*

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

Why...Oh why...Well no matter...I'll still always love you Goku...You'll always be in my heart...

 

I understand now though...They made it perfectly clear why Superman wins...I honestly couldn't argue with this video even if I tried...

 

 

I'm proud of you for admitting that.

[Denim&Venöm 19,268]

If I were there, I would've asked which death battle they caught the most flak for besides Goku/Supes. Also plant the seeds for Maka from Soul Eater vs. Ruby from RWBY. 

 

Dat princess death battle royal though.