Princess Celestia's age!

[Gizmodash 18]

Can we all just marvel at how old the princesses are?? princess celestia was already full grown when granny smith was a filly!! shes ancient!!! just how old are the princesses?!?!

[Untitled Goose Q 5,137]

Gentlemen do not ask about or discuss a lady's age.

[TalonIceblade 13]

not that is actually matters but she is over 1000 years old according to the very beginning of the series

[pony.colin 156]

not that is actually matters but she is over 1000 years old according to the very beginning of the series

 

This, she's ancient. But she's looking well for her age.  Now I wonder how much younger Luna is though, after being banished on the moon for so long.

[Gizmodash 18]

now thats another good question. did luna stop aging while she was in the moon? or was it the twin paradox where a twin in space aged slower then the twin on earth?

[Aurelion Star 434]

yup HMMM.
1000 years have past hmmm let say 1004
because the mlp episodes during season 1 to 4 are about well 91 base on google so how many years have past since the 1st season to the 4rth season thats the only thing we can know of how old is the princess

[Simon 4,557]

yup HMMM.

1000 years have past hmmm let say 1004

because the mlp episodes during season 1 to 4 are about well 91 base on google so how many years have past since the 1st season to the 4rth season thats the only thing we can know of how old is the princess

 

 

Season 1, Episode 1 - Season 4, Episode 1 was one year.  We know that because this was the first summer sun celebration since the return of Celestia's sister, and we know that the Summer Sun Celebration is an annual event because Luna was banished for 1000 years, and the celebration in the first episode was the 1000th Summer Sun Celebration.  So only a little over one year has past.  That being said, they were fully grown and ruling the kingdom a thousand years prior, and we know that the events of Discord were before Luna's banishment and they were both fully grown for that as well, so we can safely say they are both far older than 1000 years old.  Plus let's be realistic here... Luna was gone for 1000 years... the only way that she could come back and immediately go back to work as a princess like she did is if that 1000 years was actually only a small fraction of how long she'd been alive.  Based on that, I'd say that the princesses are both thousands or tens of thousands of years old.

Edited May 28, 2014 by Simon

[Gizmodash 18]

season 5 needs to show them living in the castle of 2 sisters. not as a flashback or even better show them as fillys!!

[Aurelion Star 434]

hey wait a minute Ive seen this PIcture with a name Simon here is this about the blind girl there that made a snow for the princesses?
anad also maybe your right hey maybe ten of thousands of years old

[UserNotFound 964]

Simon is right, we know they are ancient... But then again so is Discord... Remember he's the one who ruled before the two princesses and we see him in Twilights vision as a full grown Draconequus

[Gizmodash 18]

another question would be why is celestia still a princess and not a queen? her parents arent around (that we know of) so why isnt she the full queen? 

[Malinter 3,064]

She's at least 2000 years old, she's lived though both the banishment of jer sister (1000 years) and discord is said to also ruled Equestria for several years before the sisters found the EoH. 

Edited May 28, 2014 by Malinter

[Simon 4,557]

another question would be why is celestia still a princess and not a queen? her parents arent around (that we know of) so why isnt she the full queen? 

Cause little girls dream of being princesses not queens, so calling her a princess sells princess toys and princess tiaras and princessy dreams to children watching the show xD

[pony.colin 156]

another question would be why is celestia still a princess and not a queen? her parents arent around (that we know of) so why isnt she the full queen? 

 

Queens are evil, due to Disney (or whatever the main theory has been).  Someone can better quote me on this

 

Would be nice to know if we will ever get the origin story of Celestia and Luna, 

Also begs the question, are the princesses immortal? or do they have a ridiculously long lifespan?

[UserNotFound 964]

another question would be why is celestia still a princess and not a queen? her parents arent around (that we know of) so why isnt she the full queen?

 

Because Hasbro thought that Queen had associations with evil, for example in fairy tales with the evil queen, and Chrysalis, Lauren Faust wanted to put Queen Celestia in the show but hasbro overruled it... Also... There can be ruling princes and princesses... A Principality is a sovereign state ruled by a monarch with the title Prince or Princess... Equestria is probably best described as a Principality, but I guess this concept is a bit difficult to grasp when young (it's worth noting that Meg Cabot, the original author of The Princess Diaries made Genovia a principality and it's monarchs ruled as Princes or Princesses, but in the Disney movies they made it a Kingdom ruled by Kings or Queens...)

[Gizmodash 18]

Cause little girls dream of being princesses not queens, so calling her a princess sells princess toys and princess tiaras and princessy dreams to children watching the show xD

 

 

Queens are evil, due to Disney (or whatever the main theory has been).  Someone can better quote me on this

 

Would be nice to know if we will ever get the origin story of Celestia and Luna, 

Also begs the question, are the princesses immortal? or do they have a ridiculously long lifespan?

very interesting. but i think that can be changed by showing girls that a queen can be strong and fun. regal but also carefree when the time is right

Because Hasbro thought that Queen had associations with evil, for example in fairy tales with the evil queen, and Chrysalis, Lauren Faust wanted to put Queen Celestia in the show but hasbro overruled it... Also... There can be ruling princes and princesses... A Principality is a sovereign state ruled by a monarch with the title Prince or Princess... Equestria is probably best described as a Principality, but I guess this concept is a bit difficult to grasp when young (it's worth noting that Meg Cabot, the original author of The Princess Diaries made Genovia a principality and it's monarchs ruled as Princes or Princesses, but in the Disney movies they made it a Kingdom ruled by Kings or Queens...)

but princesses with no king or queen would be a princesses regent until she marries or becomes proper age.

while i agree that queens can evil, i believe the only way to change that perception would be to take the first step to making queens good again

[pony.colin 156]

Hasbro, the players of the play it safe route.  Queens? Too evil ... Princesses? Ah perceived as just pure, perfect.  Players of not rocking the boat 

[Simon 4,557]

 

 

very interesting. but i think that can be changed by showing girls that a queen can be strong and fun. regal but also carefree when the time is right

It can be changed in theory and I think  Frozen is a step in that direction, but when they made this show, Hasbro wasn't trying to change people's perception they were trying to sell plastic toys to little girls, so calling them a princess was the best marketing route. 

 

The whole Queen vs Princess thing really stretches back to Snow White where you had probably the first major cartoon where the Queen was the antagonist facing a protagonist princess.  It's also important to note that outside of Frozen, there's generally no real rhyme or reason to most of the princess or queen titles in cartoons.  They just sort of slap them on the antagonist and protagonist without discussing the actual system of government.   So ponies really aren't the first ones to use the princess label as a marketing ploy in lieu of a more traditional monarch system of titles.

 

All that aside though, this is a show with talking pastel horses and weather controlled by the ponies.  Having their system of government use Princess and Prince in lieu of King and Queen isn't the most stretched piece of reality of the show.  You can always chalk it down to Celestia and Luna deciding to use those titles to convey to others that they are no more important in Equestria's leadership than the other princesses.  I've seen crazier headcanons out there too usually surrounding around some terrible tragedy that killed their parents and they didn't want to take the titles or something having to do with Sombra and Chrysalis.  Point is, Equestria is a very different place than our Earth so we can't always try and put human logic onto the show.

[Gizmodash 18]

It can be changed in theory and I think  Frozen is a step in that direction, but when they made this show, Hasbro wasn't trying to change people's perception they were trying to sell plastic toys to little girls, so calling them a princess was the best marketing route. 

 

The whole Queen vs Princess thing really stretches back to Snow White where you had probably the first major cartoon where the Queen was the antagonist facing a protagonist princess.  It's also important to note that outside of Frozen, there's generally no real rhyme or reason to most of the princess or queen titles in cartoons.  They just sort of slap them on the antagonist and protagonist without discussing the actual system of government.   So ponies really aren't the first ones to use the princess label as a marketing ploy in lieu of a more traditional monarch system of titles.

 

All that aside though, this is a show with talking pastel horses and weather controlled by the ponies.  Having their system of government use Princess and Prince in lieu of King and Queen isn't the most stretched piece of reality of the show.  You can always chalk it down to Celestia and Luna deciding to use those titles to convey to others that they are no more important in Equestria's leadership than the other princesses.  I've seen crazier headcanons out there too usually surrounding around some terrible tragedy that killed their parents and they didn't want to take the titles or something having to do with Sombra and Chrysalis.  Point is, Equestria is a very different place than our Earth so we can't always try and put human logic onto the show.

well put! that is a very beautiful way to look at this i commend you

[Sugar Pea 2,682]

1000, just a little over I believe. ^^

[Jeric 46,851]

It can be changed in theory and I think Frozen is a step in that direction, but when they made this show, Hasbro wasn't trying to change people's perception they were trying to sell plastic toys to little girls, so calling them a princess was the best marketing route.

 

The whole Queen vs Princess thing really stretches back to Snow White where you had probably the first major cartoon where the Queen was the antagonist facing a protagonist princess. It's also important to note that outside of Frozen, there's generally no real rhyme or reason to most of the princess or queen titles in cartoons. They just sort of slap them on the antagonist and protagonist without discussing the actual system of government. So ponies really aren't the first ones to use the princess label as a marketing ploy in lieu of a more traditional monarch system of titles.

 

All that aside though, this is a show with talking pastel horses and weather controlled by the ponies. Having their system of government use Princess and Prince in lieu of King and Queen isn't the most stretched piece of reality of the show. You can always chalk it down to Celestia and Luna deciding to use those titles to convey to others that they are no more important in Equestria's leadership than the other princesses. I've seen crazier headcanons out there too usually surrounding around some terrible tragedy that killed their parents and they didn't want to take the titles or something having to do with Sombra and Chrysalis. Point is, Equestria is a very different place than our Earth so we can't always try and put human logic onto the show.

And in the original Storyboards Elsa was depicted as closer to the typical Disney antagonist, and more in line with the original Snow Queen -- until a certain song was created that made them revisit the character. Disney came very close to perpetuating the Evil Queen story trope.

 

Of course MLP hasn't helped within cannon with Somba and Chrysalis. Though the Blueblood decision is amusing now that they named the Duke and Duchess of Maretania (sp?) so who the hell knows.

 

As far as the age if Celestia, 1000 years + normal age for a full grown Alicorn Mare would be what she is. Unless of course she is part of a creation analog with the world itself.

[Simon 4,557]

Of course MLP hasn't helped within cannon with Somba and Chrysalis. Though the Blueblood decision is amusing now that they named the Duke and Duchess of Maretania (sp?) so who the hell knows.

Well I think one interesting thing to note about King Sombra in particular is the potential that he could be the reason that they don't use the King/Queen title in Equestria.  We already know he was an oppressive ruler who banished the entire Crystal Empire after terrorizing the people of that empire.  It's not difficult to imagine a scenario in which the title of King became synonymous with evil due to his reign over the Crystal Empire.  To analogize, Führer is simply a word to refer to a leader.  Yet, if you hear someone use that title, you immediately associate it with Adolf Hitler.  While originally an innocent title, it grew to have extremely negative connotations and after WWII, Germany began instead using the term Leiter to refer to its leader.  So, something similar could have happened with Sombra and/or Chrysalis or someone else completely in which King and Queen became negative titles in Equestria so it simply became easier to refer to them as Princesses.

 

Edit:

 

So basically an in-universe situation that caused the same negative connotations that cause us to use Princess instead of King for marketing reasons xD  But yeah either  way it doesn't help with the overall perception that King and Queen will always refer to antagonists. 

Edited May 28, 2014 by Simon

[Forlong 1,726]

Mortality has been rather sketchy in this show.  Apparently, the unicorn Star Swirl the Bearded lived for hundreds of years.

[Aurelion Star 434]

Didn't we discuss this already?????///
its 1001 ok ? why you ask?
look at my previous post

[Admiral Regulus 2,769]

1000? 2000? Silly fillies! It's over 9000.