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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Aw, that's sweet. No one's ever said that to me before. And YES, THANK YOU about Celestia, it was driving me up the walls! Horse Play was just the abomination of the season. I couldn't think for days without cringing. And about Starlight, yeah, she seems to have replaced Twilight as the main character, and Twilight is acting way unlike herself. It's like she has no sense of trust, common sense or compassion anymore. And the School of Friendship was definitely needless, and also a pretty stupid idea. Teaching friendship in a classroom with exam papers and revision guides and worksheets like it's maths or science or english. It's just....no. -
I'm guessing you're a big fan of Starlight Glimmer. I thought she was such a great character, especially in the S6 finale.
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Definitely. And yeah, about the finale, I don't get how Cozy Glow, a mere ten-year-old filly, was able to capture the most powerful unicorn in the series. Well, except maybe Starswirl, but never mind, because Starlight is even more powerful than Twilight, and she is an alicorn, so no doubts about Starlight. The finale was pretty ridiculous. I kind of enjoyed the bits when Neighsay got taken down, and Pinkie worked her "annoyingness" on Tirek, but other than that, pretty bad. What's your favourite Starlight episode?
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Definitely To Where And Back Again. I love episodes where it's the secondary characters who shine rather than the main, and Starlight was totally awesome in it. It was my third favourite episode of the series after Viva Las Pegasus and Keep Calm And Flutter On. Although I did also really like Rock Solid Friendship. Starlight and Maud really make good friends.
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
He's OK. And I don't dislike him, he just isn't a favourite. Luna and Celestia's bickering in Slice of Life was pretty OOC too, and like I've said, Celestia and Luna act differently a lot, but they still act like the same person. And about Pinkie, it would be reasonable to say she was out of character, as she wasn't acting out of character, but a lot of her Pinkie Pie lines were out of character. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
But their vocabulary is off. Flim and Flam are ponies who talk very fast and professionally, with elaborate vocabulary and very precise pronounciation. In Friendship University, their speech is all tacky and teenager style, without any bounce in their voices. If Rainbow Dash started using "darned tootin'" and "plum tuckered" in a high country accent, her vocabulary range and voice would be off, because that is not how Rainbow Dash speaks. Or if Applejack started using "fabulous" and "simply divine" and "darling", in a dainty voice like Rarity's, her vocabulary and voice would be off. Because that is not how they speak. The situation with Flim and Flam is the same. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
But they aren't opinions. Opinions are what you think of something, say its quality, or its plot. A fact is just how somethings is. Like if I said "Spike has a crush on Rarity," or "Twilight is Celestia's pupil." Those aren't opinions, they are just facts. And it is a fact that, for instance, Flim and Flam's vocabulary style is completely off. They don't talk like they're supposed to. That's just something that's true, it's not how I percieve it, it's just how it is. If I said "Flim and Flam are awesome characters", that would be my opinion. If I said "Flim and Flam are showponies who often con people and speak simultaneously and back and forth", that would be a fact. Definitely. Completely killed. No decent episodes besides perhaps Maud's stand-up comedyc lip in The Maud Couple. It happens to all TV shows eventually, and MLP had a great run before it happened. Seven seasons and a movie (although perhaps not the S7 finale) before it happened, which is quite a record. And you're right about The Break Up Breakdown being an atrocity. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Thanks. To be honest, I had never really thought much about Flim and Flam, either, but when Friendship University came out, the difference was very noticeable, and it took me a while to figure out what it was. I'm not using autism as an excuse to shove opinions down others' throats, I'm just saying that I'm exceptionally good at figuring out when things are not right. And some of them are my opinions, granted, but some of them are not opinions, but facts, such as the OOC characters not acting like themselves, or the Cutie Map's functions. They're not opinions, they're just facts. Saying stuff is bad or good is an opinion. Saying stuff is right or wrong is a fact. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Celestia and Luna bicker like a pair of spoiled, immature brats in A Royal Problem, and Celestia adopts a rather immature persona in Horse Play. And I don't want everypony reformed, far from it, just that Flim and Flam and Lightning Dust are terrific characters who should have been reformed. And I'll admit Season 1 was nothing special, but neither was Season 8. And I absolutely adored Season 6, what with those masterpieces like The Gift of Maud Pie, or Gauntlet of Fire, or The Times They Are A Changeling, not to mention Viva Las Pegasus and To Where And Back Again. Season 6 was actually my second favourite season. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Thank you! I'm glad you agree! It's so hard to find people who think like me. Definitely the worst season ever. If I must be honest, I kind of enjoyed watching the finale. I hated the plot, and how a ten-year-old filly could somehow have an evil plot like that, and basically everything was wrong with it, but it was still kind of a fun episode to watch. But definitely, a very bad quality episode. I know. Which is why I have never said I have anything against other people's opinions. This page didn't even have anything to do with opinions. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Whoah, there. Since when am I trying to force my views into others? For one thing, perfectionism means you want to get everything perfect, it has nothing to do with being close-minded. Plus, I am autistic, which means I see things the way they are. These are not my "opinions," they are just straight facts I have noticed. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
PurpleWonderPower replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Sorry, but no can do. I am a perfectionist person, and I always make sure to get every detail one hundred percent clear, and I'm not leaving a word of that out. Also, this is not my opinion on S8, but a series of straight facts. Except for Spike's wings, which was just my opinion, all of these things are straight facts. You may not mind them, and maybe do not care, but they are, in fact, things wrong with the Season, and that is why I do mind. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8 I'm a fifteen-year-old pegasister, and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is my favourite show. I love it more than anything, which was why I was so utterly furious how Season 8 just completely ruined the show for me. Get ready for a good, long vent here, because I've been yearning to write this all down for ages. The School of Friendship For starters, the School of Friendship. Just about the worst idea in all the history of worst ideas. You can't teach friendship in a school! Friendship cannot be taught, it can only be learned. I mean, Twilight didn't learn friendship in a classroom, neither did Starlight, or any of the other ponies. Friendship is unique to everyone, and it is something you have to experience and discover for yourself and learn from it as you go. And the school appears to teach it like a school subject, with tests and papers and exam questions, and eventually graduations. That's just not how it works. The most one can do to help someone learn about friendship is give them advice and guidance when they need it, but in order to learn, they have to learn it for themselves. Friendship isn't something that can be taught in a classroom like a school subject. Twilight of all ponies should know that. And did it never occur to anypony that making a School of Friendship would turn out very much like Fame and Misfortune, with a whole lot of competition and ponies completely missing the point, because the students would be more focused on getting better grades than others than actually learning about friendship? Because that's what happens in school, and I doubt this one would be any different.Also, at the end of School Raze, Twilight says "If friendship were easy to learn, we wouldn't need a school." Seriously!? Nopony never needed a school to learn friendship. There's never been a School of Friendship before in all recorded history, and I am certainly not going to believe that nopony in all of Equestrian history has ever learned anything about friendship until the School was made. In fact, that's what the entire series has been about: discovering and learning new things about friendship. Or at least it was, until Season 8 came along. Plus, how the heck do the Mane 6 have time to teach at the School? Applejack has a farm to work on, Rarity has three boutiques in Equestria to run, Fluttershy has an animal sanctuary to take care of, Pinkie Pie has Sugarcube Corner to work at and parties to throw, Rainbow Dash is a Wonderbolt and also has weather to clear, and Twilight has her royal duties. Plus, what about the Cutie Map? It just sends ponies off to random places at random times, which means the teachers have no idea when they'll have to suddenly run off and leave the school! Another annoying thing I've noticed about the show since the School was introduced. They make it out like friendship is a thing that ponies own, and that ponies are the only ones who know anything about it. Twilight, at the beginning of The School Daze, says "The world is filled with so many different creatures who know nothing about friendship." Where on earth did she get that idea from? Just because they're not ponies, she immediately assumes they know nothing about friendship? I mean, OK, I guess I could understand dragons and griffons, because they are known for their aggressive and unfriendly natures, but I don't get why she would think yaks or Hippogriffs would have any trouble making friends, and as for the changelings, we've already seen how far they've come. Also, the show makes it out that the Mane 6 are the only ponies in Equestria who know anything about friendship. And the CMCs. I mean, they say in Marks For Effort that the CMCs have already mastered the curriculum without even going to the school, but 99% of the ponies who go to the school are either teens or full-grown adults, and the CMCs are about ten or eleven, so I don't get how that works. The show basically makes it out that the protagonists of the show are the only people who know anything about friendship at all. That really bugs me. The Young Six The Mane 6 seem to have been replaced as the main characters with Yona, Sandbar, Gallus, Silverstream, Smoulder and Ocellus. Sure, they're pretty great characters—or at least Yona, Smoulder, Ocellus and Gallus are. I don't care much for Sandbar, he is rather boring, and as for Silverstream, she is obviously just an exact copy of Pinkie Pie. And although (most of) the Young Six are great characters, the show seems to revolve around them now, instead of Twilight and the others! It was bad enough in Season 7, when the show became from Starlight Glimmer's point of view instead of Twilight's, but at least there were still some great episodes about the rest of the Mane 6. In Season 8, everything seems to be about the Young Six and the School of Friendship. They've completely taken over everything. I have barely seen a single episode that has a plot about the Mane 6, even less, a plot about the Mane 6 that doesn't revolve around the School of Friendship. The show is supposed to be about Twilight Sparkle and her friends, not some school and students! Episodes OOC Characters One of my biggest moans about Season 8 is how outrageously out of character so many characters are. They don't act like themselves, they don't sound like themselves, their vocabulary ranges are off, they do things that the real characters would never do, and it's basically like they've been replaced with changelings. Also, all the OOCness seems to happen to the best characters in the show! Twilight Sparkle Twilight Sparkle has, in Season 8, developed a nasty habit of making wild accusations at ponies, blaming them and punishing them for things they never did (e.g. the CMCs, the Young Six), and not even apologizing for it afterwards. Granted, this isn't the first time she's done it, given her appalling behaviour in What About Discord?, but that was because she had let her jealousy cloud her judgement, whethers in Season 8, Twilight seems to have started making unfair accusations like that on a regular and unprovoked basis. She also seems to have forgotten practically all the friendship lessons she has learned in the series, such as: "Trust your friends over logical explanations, even if it's something you can't explain." Or "It's not good to jump to conclusions. You could end up blaming somepony for something they never did." In fact, she was the one who taught Pinkie Pie that lesson in MMMystery on the Friendship Express. She also seems to have become very haughty and arrogant, and seems to doubt and belittle and misjudge her friends a lot, seeing "could" over "would". Such as Marks For Effort. She actually thought the CMCs would pull a prank like that on Cozy Glow, even though they would never even dream of doing something like that. And the CMCs said they didn't do it. That should have been good enough for Twilight. Princess Celestia Don't get me started on what Celestia has become. To be fair, it didn't start in Season 8, it started in A Royal Problem, and then became permanent in Season 8, just like Twilight's. Celestia has turned from a wise, regal princess into an immature little kid. I'll complain about A Royal Problem first, how she would bicker with Luna like they are a pair of spoiled brats, and even do the whole "Hah! I was right and she was wrong!" thing, and all the mock surprise like "And yet you know exactly what it's like to be me?! Oh, please!" And let's not forget that cringeworthy and disgusting abomination of an episode Horse Play. What was the point of it, anyway? To see Celestia become some dumb schoolkid who can't tell she's a bad actress and just likes to make a fool of herself in front of everypony? I felt like I had to wash my eyeballs after watching it. That definitely isn't Celestia. Bickering and gloating and acting like an immature little brat! Celestia is a princess for pony's sake! I mean, let's just take a look at who Celestia used to be: "I saw the signs of Nightmare Moon's return, and I knew it was you who had the magic inside to defeat her. But you could not unleash it until you let true friendship into your heart." "I know it must have been difficult to see your friends leave for Ponyville without you. You may no longer be my student, Princess Twilight. But I hope you know that I will always be there if you need me. Just as I hope that you will always be there when I need you." "I loved having you as a student. You challenged me and taught me just as much as I taught you. I am embarrassed to admit it, but I was afraid if you made friends.....you wouldn't need me anymore." THAT is Princess Celestia. Sure, Celestia has always had two sides, one a wise, regal princess and teacher, and the other a more informal, fun-loving side, but no matter which side she is on, she still acts like the same PERSON. She acts like a spoiled, arrogant little brat these days. Like how Discord has a mischevious, annoying, showman side and also a caring, sentimental side. No matter which side he is on, he still acts like the same person. Celestia does not act like herself in Season 8 or A Royal Problem. Discord Discord is my favourite character, and I can't stand what the makers have done to him. He has had not just one, but two different colours of OOC. The first one showed a little in Dungeons and Discords, then again, a great deal more, in The Break Up Breakdown. He just seems to be a pessimist who doesn't care about anyone else. I mean, we all know Discord. Discord is a hilarious, enthusiastic lover of showmanship, who also has a sentimental side and a deep caring for friendship. But in those two episodes, he acts like a sulky teenager, showing nothing but negativity and disinterest, and finding disgust in friendship and anything sentimental. Plus, since when does Discord's vocabulary range revolve around slang words like "cool" or "sappy"? Just compare his behaviour in those two episodes to his normal self in, say, Keep Calm And Flutter On, or Twilight's Kingdom, or To Where And Back Again. Do they really seem like the same draconequus to you? His second OOC colour occurred in A Matter of Principals. Unlike The Break Up Breakdown, he does act like Discord, but was OOC in a different way. He doesn't act like he is supposed to these days. Pulling all those horrid pranks on Starlight and terrifying all the students and making everything impossible? Discord would never do anything of the likes of that! Discord is a nice guy these days! OK, sending Twilight or Applejack or Rainbow Dash on a fake Map mission does kind of sound like exactly the sort of thing Discord would still do, but the rest just isn't. He would never do that to Fluttershy, let alone any of that other stuff. That is something the Old Discord would do. NOT the Reformed Discord! And to Starlight Glimmer, of all ponies! Discord really really really likes Starlight Glimmer! Why would he do that to her? Why would he do that to anypony? Discord is a nice guy these days! He only uses his chaos magic for good these days, and the worst he ever does is pull a few pranks and occasionally be a little annoying. He isn't mean or nasty or intentionally try to make ponies miserable. Totally OOC. Flim & Flam Flim and Flam are my second favourite characters in the show, and nopony was as shockingly out of character as they were in Friendship University. It was just so not the Flim and Flam we know! They don't act like themselves in the slightest. What with treating Twilight so cruelly, and blackmailing her and threatening to destroy her reputation. Flim and Flam may be conponies, but they would never do something like that! And don't get me started on their bad attitudes. Flim and Flam would never be so nasty to anypony. Flim and Flam are positive, enthusiastic showponies who, despite their deception, are actually really nice and good-natured. They would never be so mean and nasty and grumpy and bad-natured, and would never do something like blackmail! I mean, sure, deception is their thing, but blackmail is just cruel, and Flim and Flam would never do that to anypony. And does anybody notice how tacky their speech is!? Flim and Flam are professional showponies with elaborate speech and high-standard vocabulary range, always speaking using long professional words like "Indispensable" or "Hypothetically" or "Unimpeachable". In Friendship University, their speech is just so messy! They say stuff like "I guess" and "Sure" and "Nah" and "Yeah". Flim and Flam don't talk like that! They don't say "Yeah", they say "Precisely" or "Indubitably" or "Unquestionably", or at the very least, "Indeed so". And it's not just their vocabulary that's been ruined. What happened to the bounce in their voices!? They just talk like flat, regular ponies in Friendship University! Plus, they don't say anything simultaneously, they don't talk super-fast like they're supposed to, and to top it off, they don't even finish a single one of each others' sentences! Ruined! And Flim and Flam running a School of Friendship!? Really!? That is just the most twisted, ridiculous, terrible idea ever! A School of Friendship in itself is the Sistine Chapel of worst ideas ever, but FLIM AND FLAM RUNNING ONE!? Seriously!? Flim and Flam are deceptive salesponies who cheat the bits out of ponies with genius marketing scams, not friendship teachers! And just take a look at their pathetic scam! Flim and Flam are genius mastermind tricksters! The scam in Friendship University just seems so petty and simple, compared to the elaborate schemes they have previously performed. And to seal it all off, they even fell for the classic "confession through bragging" ruse! Flim and Flam are masterminds! They would never fall for something they practically invented! And that part when they were selling their papers and they were just being total grumps to the buyers (which is also something Flim and Flam would never do), Flim says: "Come back for the rest when you can afford it." And, I mean, he's just so cold! That's definitely not the Flim OR Flam we know! The real Flim and Flam would have said something like: "Come back tomorrow, my good sir, where my brother and I shall very gladly grant you these fine and, might I add, quite superlatively remarkable scriptures, for the right price, naturally!" THAT is the kind of thing Flim and Flam would say. Their vocabulary is completely off, as are their attitudes. Lightning Dust Lightning Dust wasn't quite as OOC as some of the other characters, but she still didn't act like the Lightning Dust we used to know. I mean, we all know Lightning Dust is very reckless, but the word "reckless" has two meanings. It can mean only looking out for yourself and not caring about the consequences of your actions on other ponies, or it can mean not giving two hoots about your own safety and just not giving a second thought before you put yourself in serious danger. In Season 8, Lightning Dust has gone from the former to the latter. Lightning Dust is an egotistical and often careless pony, certainly, but in The Washouts, she has gone from a pony who doesn't care who gets hurt as long as she is the best, to a pony who says you shouldn't give a hoot about your own safety and tries to put herself and other ponies in danger, and wants them to ignore safety and get hurt, and encourages ponies to put themselves in danger, rather than just not caring who else gets hurt as long as she doesn't. Spitfire Don't even get me started on Spitfire. That whole scene in The Washouts with her screaming her face off at Scootaloo just totally freaked me out, because she was SO out of character. Sure, we all know Spitfire likes shouting, but she likes shouting in a professional, superior, "I'm the boss" kind of way. She acts like she's got a screw loose in The Washouts, what with all the "whoop-de-doodle-doo"s, and screaming the same sentence three times. It was just absolutely insane. Pinkie Pie Pinkie Pie wasn't exactly a full-time OOC character, but a lot of her Pinkie Pie jokes are getting very OOC, not to mention utterly weak. Let's look at her normal Pinkie Pie talk, shall we? "I let my imagination run away from me all the time. And then it comes back. With cake!" "I'm gonna love it five-ever! That's even longer than four-ever!" "What if somepony else gets the package by accident and then she remembers us instead of Rainbow Dash and then she becomes our new friend? And then the real Rainbow Dash won't ever know that she used to have friends and she forgot them!" Those are classic Pinkie Pie jokes. Now let's look a some of her Season 8 jokes: Twilight Sparkle: Section one-forty-seven, paragraph two states that teamwork is a key part of friendship. And section two-two-nine, paragraph nine says outdoor activity reinforces learning. Add that together, and what do you get? Pinkie Pie: Ooh, ooh! Okay, let me see. One-forty-seven, two-twenty-nine, carry the two... Three hundred and eighty-seven? That's just so weak! And not Pinkie Pie in the slightest. If anything, the characters would be the other way round. Songs The songs have gotten considerably tackier in Season 8. MLP songs used to have the most incredible tunes and absolutely amazing lyrics. Just take a look at some of the previous songs's lyrics. For example, The Pony I Want To Be. If I'm a diamond Then why do I feel so rough? I'm as strong as a stone Even that's not enough There's something jagged in me And I've made such mistakes I thought that diamonds were hard Though I feel I could break Would you believe That I've always wished I could be somepony else? Yet I can't see What I need to do to be the pony I want to be I've been told my whole life What to do, what to say Nopony showed me that There might be some better way And now I feel like I'm lost I don't know what to do The ground is sinking away I'm about to fall through Those are incredible, high-quality lyrics that fit perfectly with the tune, and also add loads of feeling into Diamond Tiara's problems. They use word play and metaphors and loads of creativity. In Season 8, the lyrics of tons of songs are just so unbelievably tacky. For instance, Friendship Always Wins. This school of friendship is for all of us A place where we belong Where we all learn to share and trust The only rule here is to find your way And friendship always wins at the end of the day The lyrics are just so bland and unadventurous, not to mention unoriginal. They just don't put any feeling into the words like they did in previous songs, and a lot of them sound so forced into the tune. And about tune, I've come across several songs that absolutely fail at it, the principal one being Friendship U. The song writers really lost their touch with that one. Like I've said about Flim and Flam above, their speech is tacky and messy and common, as were the lyrics of their song, and don't even get me started on the tune. OK, I'll admit that the tune of the three choruses was pretty terrific, but the rest just had absolutely no rhythm, beat or timing, and just sounded like someone had cut up a bunch of totally random song clips and stuck them together badly. I'm honest when I say it was painful to listen to. I'll admit the two Season 8 songs I did love were A Kirin Tale and Your Heart Is In Two Places.The tunes were terrific, and the lyrics were really, really interesting. They sounded and felt like MLP songs. But those were the exception. All the rest have really tacky lyrics, and just sound like someone is talking with music in the background, the words don't meld into the tune like they used to. And a lot of them are out of rhythm, except maybe the chorus of Friendship U. But that one just for tune, the lyrics and style are still pathetic and don't sound right at all. Reformation One of the reasons I've always loved MLP so much is because they reform villains. In every TV show you watch, there are always villains you want to be good guys. In MLP, it actually happens. And I think the makers did a perfect job of reforming villains: they reformed all the villains who should be reformed: Nightmare Moon, Discord, Gilda, Trixie, Starlight Glimmer, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, changelings, etc, but you wouldn't want to see villains like Queen Chrysalis or Lord Tirek to turn nice and friendly, would you? The makers did a perfect job of who should be reformed....until Season 8. There were certain previously featured antagonists that should definitely have been reformed in their next appearance, and, as usual, Season 8 ruined everything. Flim & Flam I've mentioned Flim and Flam are way out of character in Friendship University, and yet another thing that really bugged me about the episode was that Flim and Flam didn't even reform, even after they made friends with Applejack and Fluttershy in Viva Las Pegasus. I always hoped Flim and Flam would return again in Season 8, but my expectations were crushed. Their fourth episode should have been about Flim and Flam's reformation, not some stupid University of Friendship, not to mention they're suddenly bad guys again. Not only does it not tally with the timeline in the slightest, but it's just getting old. In The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000, I had absolutely no idea what they would do, since they were new characters. In Leap of Faith, I had a suspicion they were up to no good, but couldn't be sure, since I didn't know them too well, and since their tonic did seem to work. Then in Viva Las Pegasus, Flim and Flam were having a friendship problem and arguing, so I didn't think they would be antagonists, then their teaming up with the goodies was also brand new, but in Friendship University, their school being a scam was just too predictable. Friendship University was their fourth episode, and they weren't antagonists in their third episode. They can't be antagonists, then turn allies, then just be antagonists again as if it never even happened. That just doesn't work. Sure, to have two episodes with ingenious scams, then a "team-up-with-the-goodies" episode for a third is fine, but a fourth episode with the same old hackneyed scam plot as before, and it's just too predictable, and also doesn't tally with the timeline. They've gone too long without reforming. Their fourth episode should either have been about their full reformation, or Viva Las Pegasus have been their last episode. Lightning Dust Ever since Wonderbolts Academy, I've been wishing and wishing that Lightning Dust would one day return. She was just one of the coolest characters of all time, and I especially loved her friendship with Rainbow Dash until she started being reckless. The thing is, Lightning and Rainbow were close friends, then broke up, and MLP is a show about making friends, not losing friends. All the broken friendships in the series have been resolved, (e.g. Gilda, Sunburst, Stygian, Luna) and Lightning Dust's should have too. When I found out Lightning Dust was returning in The Washouts, I was ecstatic. Then when she didn't reform, I just thought "Oh, COME ON! After all these years, Lightning Dust FINALLY returns, and she doesn't even reform!? Wasted! Utterly wasted!" Specific Episode Complaints Mudbriar - The Maud CoupleThe Maud Couple was one of the less-detestable episodes in Season 8, but I thought Maud's new boyfriend Mudbriar was quite a detestable character. I mean, hey, I'm glad he makes Maud so happy, but to be honest, I'm totally on Pinkie's side. There's nothing wrong with being a little pedantic, but Mudbriar was being so obnoxious and stuck-up towards Pinkie, acting like he is more deserving of Maud than her, and all he ever says about someone's hard work and accomplishments is "Technically, this is wrong with it." There is no reason to constantly correct someone so rudely like that, when it just does not matter, and his ridiculous nonsense about "stick abuse" and things like that really bugged me.I can't stand that message of the episode, how it doesn't matter what Pinkie thinks of Mudbriar because he makes Maud happy. I mean, obviously you can't stop your sister from hanging out with a guy you hate, but there is absolutely no reason Pinkie should have to put up with his rude behaviour towards her, just because he makes her sister happy. Fluttershy's Characters - Fake It 'Til You Make ItI thought the plot of Fake It 'Til You Make It was quite ridiculous. Adopting different outfits and personas somehow consumes your mind and splits you into different characters? Really? That is just ridiculous. That sounds more like something that would happen in Teen Titans Go. Personally I LOVE Teen Titans Go, it's one of my favourite shows, mostly because of all the bad jokes and silliness, but Teen Titans Go episode plots can be as crazy, twisted, weird, insane, ridiculous and impossible as they like, whethers My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic has its limits, and doesn't revolve around silliness and craziness like Teen Titans Go. It just doesn't fit. The CMCs - Surf and/or Turf The CMCs getting called by the Cutie Map really bugged me. I loved how the CMCs were a subplot, with their own little adventures and problems and goals revolving around cutie marks, that had absolutely no involvement with the main plot. But now they have been brought into the main plot, with the Cutie Map and the friendship quests, and all the saving Equestria business. I don't like that. They are just junior school students who devoted their lives to helping ponies get cutie marks. They shouldn't be involved in all that. The Cutie Map - Surf and/or Turf The Cutie Map shouldn't call Starlight, Sunburst or the CMCs. The Map is connected to the Tree of Harmony, the Tree is connected to the Elements of Harmony, and the Elements are connected to the Mane 6. They should be the only ones sent off on friendship missions. Also, the more random ordinary ponies it summons, the less special it seems. Also, the Map had literally NO purpose to send the CMCs to Mount Aris/Seaquestria. The CMCs never even did anything to solve the problem. Twilight was the one who solved the problem by saying Terramar didn't have to choose, and if you remember, the Map specifically only ever sends who is needed and nopony else is allowed to go, because between each other, they would have everything they need, whethers if Twilight hadn't come to supervise them, the problem would never have been solved. That's not how the Cutie Map works. Starlight's Parents - The Parent Map I detest the idea of Starlight Glimmer still having parents. If you remember, this is the same pony who was once a supervillain who stripped ponies' cutie marks and brainwashed them into believing that special talents lead to bitterness and misery. Can you really picture the supervillain Starlight from The Cutie Map and The Cutie Re-Mark going back to visit her parents and being called "pumpkie-wumpkie" by her dad? I doubt she was still in touch with them while she was being downright evil, so I don't get why she would suddenly be in touch with them now. Do they even know what she's been up to and what's been happening? Because I certainly don't think he would be mollycoddling her like a five-year-old after her supervillainy. If anything, I would have thought he'd be scared of her. Sure, Sunburst still having parents is fine, because Sunburst is an ordinary pony with an ordinary life story, whethers Starlight is an ex-supervillain. I mean, you wouldn't want Discord to still have parents, or Trixie, or Flim and Flam. Spike's Wings - Molt Down This is just more of a personal opinion, rather than a complaint about Season 8's bad quality, but I didn't like the idea of Spike getting wings. I like how he's Twilight's little innocent sidekick who skips at her side and rides on her back, and getting wings kind of ruined that for me. I also don't think his wings really suited him. Injustice - The Mean 6 Injustice and wrong accusations are something I. Will. Not. Stand. For. There has never been an ounce of injustice in MLP. When there is a wrong accusation, it is always sorted out in the end, and the real culprit is found, e.g. A Canterlot Wedding, Rarity Investigates, Marks For Effort. But in The Mean 6, Chrysalis and the duplicates were never discovered, leaving each of the Mane 6 still thinking it was each other that said and did all those horrid things. That is not OK. Princess Twilight Is Treated Like Crap - Friendship University It makes me so furious to see how Sugar-Honey-Iced-Tea Twilight is treated in Friendship University, and, come to think of it, several other episodes. Celestia, Luna and Cadance are always treated with bows and utmost respect, so why is Twilight treated like some dumb everyday pony? Ponies scowl at her as she comes through the crowd, and just plainly insult her! "You'd think the Princess of Friendship would be friendlier." How DARE they say something like that!? That's absolutely outrageous! You do NOT say something like that in front of royalty! That's like saying: "You'd think the Princess of the Sun would be prettier," in front of Celestia! That's just insulting royalty! That shouldn't be allowed! And would the Princess of Friendship really try and sabotage a school out of jealousy? Really? And would a princess of Equestria really make accusations at a pair of con artists unless she knew what she was talking about!? Seriously! Why is Twilight treated like Sugar-Honey-Iced-Tea, when she should be treated with the utmost trust and respect!? Sans-Applejack - Friendship University Yet another complaint I have about Friendship University: Where the heck is Applejack!? Flim and Flam have always been Applejack's personal nemesis! Since when are they anypony else's problem!? And since when do they appear without her!? A FlimFlam Brothers episode without Applejack is like a Discord episode with no finger-snapping! Plus, not only is Twilight the one who takes them on instead of Applejack, but Twilight and the FlimFlam Brothers somehow seem to know each other perfectly, even though they've only ever seen each other once, at the cider event years ago, and they never even met each other or even spoke to each other! They act like they know each other personally, which they certainly don't! When Flim and Flam first jump through the paper, Twilight says: "Flim and Flam. Of course!" She doesn't sound surprised in the least. It's like she knows them perfectly, and she "should have known". Twilight hasn't seen Flim and Flam for years, and doesn't even know them! A much more appropriate sentence would be: "No way! It can't be! Is that....the FlimFlam Brothers?" Starswirl the Bearded - Friendship University I've loathed Starswirl ever since Shadow Play, first because of his dismission of friendship and "Once a villain, always a villain." Although he wasn't any better after he reformed. Starswirl always seems to have a twisted mindset. Twilight Sparkle clearly states that Flim and Flam are obviously up to something, and Starswirl just dismisses it, saying she taught him to "look for the best" in a previous enemy. I must say, Starswirl, that is just dense! There is a big, big difference between "seeing the best in somepony", and just being stupidly trusting and completely ignorant to the fact that they are up to no good! Plus, he actually believes Flim and Flam over Twilight! Twilight tells him point straight that she is not envious and that Flim and Flam are obviously up to something, and she is just trying to find out what, and Starswirl just jumps to the conclusion she is lying and Flim and Flam aren't, just because of some picture of Twilight searching their office! There are, like, a million reasons that Twilight could have been searching through their papers, and two notorious con artists are likely to lie about it! Starswirl actually trusts them over Twilight! That's just appalling! Zero Privacy - End In Friend In End In Friend, Rarity and Rainbow Dash are planning a whole day of fun together, but then Twilight just says she is going to lead all her students to observe it too? No! That's just not OK! This was supposed to be Rarity and Rainbow Dash's day of fun! How do you reckon someone would feel if they planned out a special day of fun and quality bonding time just for them and their friend to enjoy, and then afterwards, found out that a dozen other people had been watching them the whole time? That wouldn't feel very nice. Plus, what about the lesson Twilight learned in What About Discord?? That moments of friendship cannot be manufactured so others can see them. It's just crazy. Why should Rarity and Rainbow Dash have to sacrifice their day of fun for that? I mean, do the Mane 6 not even have lives outside the School of Friendship anymore? Pillars - A Rockhoof And A Hard PlaceAbout the Pillars being so settled in in Equestria, I don't like that at all. I didn't like how they returned to Equestria in Shadow Play, and it seems so unnatural how they have all settled into the modern world like modern ponies. I would have preferred them to just have been historical ponies who did great things, but lived a long time ago.Cozy Glow - School Raze If I must be honest, I did absolutely love the character Cozy Glow, and the finale, despite its appalling quality plot line, was rather entertaining, so I don't like to complain about it like I do other episodes, but I did find the idea of a filly no older than the CMCs being an evil supervillain with a wicked plot to drain magic out of Equestria quite and utterly ridiculous. That also sounds like something that would happen in Teen Titans Go, or another show that has no or next to no reality limits. The writers clearly didn't think it through whatsoever. Does Cozy even have parents? Where did she even come from, and how the heck did she become so masterminded and evil? In a nutshell, Season 8 bites beyond compare.
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Issues with the School of Friendship Arc
PurpleWonderPower replied to ManaMinori's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Yes, Yes, YES! Finally, finally, FINALLY, somebody gets it! A School of Friendship is ridiculous! Friendship is not something you can teach in a classroom! It can't be taught, it can only be learned! Celestia didn't teach Twilight friendship in a classroom, neither did Twilight Starlight. She set her off on a path to learn about it as she lived her life! That is the only way to learn about friendship! It's not something you can just teach in a classroom, with tests and worksheets and exam papers! I mean, what the heck!? -
Sapphire Radiance
PurpleWonderPower commented on monsdkfndflksdnlksl's eqe character in Approved Characters
Oh my gosh! I created a character called Sapphire Radiance too! I can't believe what a small world we live in. -
Season 8 Episode 6 Review
PurpleWonderPower commented on EpicEnergy's blog entry in EpicEnergy's MLP FiM Episode Reviews
I totally agree with you about the Cutie Map, how Twilight went even though the Map specifically only ever sends who is needed and nopony else is allowed to go. Plus, the Map had literally NO purpose to send the CMCs there. They didn't even DO anything to solve the problem. Twilight just told them the answer, and she did all the work and solve the problem. The CMCs had literally no involvement whatsoever. Then their cutie marks glow at the end, even though they didn't even do anything to solve the problem. That's not how the Cutie Map works.