Do you consider bronies to be furries?

[ScarfaceOne 263]

Is Pingu a furry cartoon? It does have penguins in it.

Also one of my friends who is a furry is Kendo Virmir. He is a contributor to Metamor Keep and made the Crimson Flag Comics. 

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Is Pingu a furry cartoon? It does have penguins in it.

Hmm (looks it up)

 

Perhaps, but it would be on the lower end of the furry scale. They live in a house, and can be seen wearing clothes but do no speak an understandable language (unless it is merely a case of me only knowing english) or have much in the way of a humanized physical form.

 

Also though I did say I considered MLP:FiM 'furry' this show could also be said to be a bit lower on the scale then other entertainment sources.

Edited June 6, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[Looking Glass 197]

i kinda considered myself a furry before, mainly, i enjoyed the furry art, especially anthro canine and horse girls.

i kinda considered myself a furry before, mainly, i enjoyed the furry art, especially anthro canine and horse girls. i wasn't i still look at it occasionally, not that much anymore though.

 

never had a problem with yiff, just like i don't have a problem with clop now.

 

does piss me off when a furry attacks a brony (and vice versa).

[Discordian 6,015]

i kinda considered myself a furry before, mainly, i enjoyed the furry art, especially anthro canine and horse girls.

i kinda considered myself a furry before, mainly, i enjoyed the furry art, especially anthro canine and horse girls. i wasn't i still look at it occasionally, not that much anymore though.

 

never had a problem with yiff, just like i don't have a problem with clop now.

 

does piss me off when a furry attacks a brony (and vice versa).

Especially when the reasons for attacking are often along the same line of logic as each other. Usually misconception and no attempt to understand the other side.

[hawkflame 3,310]

No, because my interest is very specific to this show.  I have no interest in anything else anthropomorphic.

[Sir Hugsalot 9,348]

I did not even know that something like "furry" exists when joining fandom and I can't say that I feel like I am one of them. After all some people are in this fandom only to watch the show and make friends (this is the very reason why I joined it) and maybe go on some ponymeets/bronycons/whatever You name it. From what I know bronies have their origins in furry fandom, but it is actually meaningless in this case. It's like with music. All the music has its roots in classical one - without classical music there'd be no blues, jazz, rock, pop. Yet You can't say that rock, for example is classical music. 

 

Besides what is the point in forcing someone into fandom that he does not want to belong too? Isn't fandom a place where You actually want to be?

[aoEAF2FBvC0MIo2Q 3,673]

Won't argue with it simply because I can't be bothered to. Being labeled a furry through association with this fandom will have zero impact on what I do in my little niche of this fandom, let alone my self-image or sense of identity.

 

So go ahead. Call me a furry. Or don't. Whatever.

[Washougal_Otaku 1,020]

Objection!!!

 

 

According to Wikipedia.

 

According to four different surveys, 14–25% of the fandom members report homosexuality, 37–52% bisexuality, 28–51% heterosexuality, and 3–8% other forms of alternative sexual relationships.[10][12][32] Of the furry fans that reported being in a relationship (approximately half of the surveyed population), 76% were in a relationship with another member of furry fandom.[10] Examples of sexual aspects within furry fandom include erotic art and furry-themed cybersex.[33][34] The term "yiff" is most commonly used to indicate sexual activity or sexual material within the fandom—this applies to sexual activity and interaction within the subculture whether in the form of cybersex or offline.[35][36]

Sexual attraction to furry characters is a polarized issue within the fandom; in one survey with 4300 furry respondents, 37% answered that sexual attraction is important in their furry activities, 38% were ambivalent, and 24% answered that it has little or nothing to do with their furry activities.[32] In a different online survey, 33% of furry respondents answered that they have a "significant sexual interest in furry", another 46% stated they have a "minor sexual interest in furry", and the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry". The survey specifically avoided adult-oriented websites to prevent bias.[12]

A portion of the fandom is sexually interested in zoophilia, or in fursuiting, although a majority take a negative stance towards the former.[37][unreliable source?] In a survey conducted by David J. Rust in 1997-1998, about 2% of furry respondents stated an interest in zoophilia, and less than 1% an interest in plushophilia, though the survey's accompanying study doesn't comment on these results,[38] and in another survey in 2008 attempting to replicate the results, 17% of respondents reported zoophilia. The survey's accompanying study suggested that the older, lower results were due to respondents being susceptible to social desirability bias. Therefore not a lot of people Yiff. That was only 4300 out of Millions of furries. So there. And it was long established before Bronies. I need to tell my mum more about R34.

OBJECTION!!!

 

You can't use Wikipedia as a "valid" source of information.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

OBJECTION!!!

 

You can't use Wikipedia as a "valid" source of information.

I would say the problem isn't so much Wikipedia then you can't trust a survey.

 

The above survey has been floating around the internet for a while and has used in saying furries are in it for the sex.

 

Also, I feel Wikipedia can be used as a valid soure of information. Though perhaps more of a starting point in one's research.

Edited June 7, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[Tan 91]

I been a furry long before I was into those technicolor ponies with their experiences of friendship. Before I say anything more, I have the need to say this: I try my best not to judge people by what they like, and instead judge them on their actions but there are a few exceptions to this that I just can't move past. I am trying my damnedest to move past judging people on what they like but for a few things I am just stubborn with.

 

That being said, I have no problems with furries. Me not having any problem with bronies should be obvious with my activity on this wonderful site. . .Been a furry since I was 5, and it is most likely Disney's fault. I don't yiff but I did look at it before. All the male genitals involved turned me off to yiff. I don't dress up in fursuits and I don't have any interest in fursonas. I have clopped before but I don't consider myself a clopper because it didn't happen with any degree of frequency nor do I go seeking it out. I have enjoyed furry art that involved girls in their underwear or naked on deviantart. And to some degree I actively seek that out. I like Girls, the occasional boy, and toons. Also 99% of the boys I "like" were animated. I have a furry girlfriend who loves both furries and mlp. I don't know if she yiffs, but she would be better equipped to like that stuff more than I do. One could argue that interest in animals with human traits like the ability to speak, makes you a furry. I think Bronies are a subdivision of furries, and its silly that some bronies hate furries even though they themselves technically qualify as one. Not all bronies are furries by association, but on a technical presp Bronies=furries. Not all furries are(or can be considered) bronies though. The furry fandom is much broader and transcends borders of one specific form of media, as others have said. Whereas Bronies are reliant on the tv show MLP FiM. My girl expressed interest in dressing up but I don't know if she meant for shenanigans or not. . . We are both very nerdy people, We even want to have a LoZ(we are uber nerds :3) themed wedding. We are beyond boyfriend/girlfriend phase and have professed our eternal love for the other and direct interest of staying with the other for the remainder of our lives.

 

I have never been able to explain why I like things like Bat/Girl hybrids in their underwear and such until I read a post on this thread that summed it up perfectly. Discordian said it's because of the human aspects rather than the animal ones. And that just works. I wasn't able to explain why until I read HIS words. I would never call anyone a zoophile for liking furry art but I never had a reason beyond "I am one too so I cannot judge." I would also never hate on cloppers because I myself have done it a few times, though not recently.

 

 

This next part is just about how petty I am, so you don't have to click it.

 

if people like bad stuff like murder and committing crimes, I will think there is something wrong with them. But as for what they like, there is one thing I can't really stand. people who like diapers. diapers are put on babies and I see this fetish as a stepping stone into pedophilia. It's bad to judge based on sexual stuff but anything that involves children to any degree, I see as wrong. Look at me and my pettiness. -_- This, to my credit, is the only fetish I judge that I myself don't engage in. I either don't criticize or poke fun at the ones I actually am involved in.

 

[Washougal_Otaku 1,020]

I would say the problem isn't so much Wikipedia then you can't trust a survey.

 

The above survey has been floating around the internet for a while and has used in saying furries are in it for the sex.

 

Also, I feel Wikipedia can be used as a valid soure of information. Though perhaps more of a starting point in one's research.

Indeed, though I must declare that my previous statement was intended to be a joke.

[Grtxkkyz 388]

Yeah... I became a furry recently... but I'm not into stuff like yiffing or fursuits. I think the fandom has pretty good artwork and stuff. In my opinion, bronies and furries are somewhat similar but not very much. I also like nice anthro pony artwork yet I have my standards. I've come across many mlp fan sites with a huge hatred toward furries and the other way around. C'mmon, every fandom has its dark side. Fighting and bitching about stuff is just not mature

[Windseeker 546]

Why does everyone keep thinking bronies are furries? Is it because both fandoms share the same social integrity? Or perhaps its because some furries are bronies and that gives the entire community the right to say we are furs?

 

I'm quite confuzzled as to why non-brony furries are hell-bent determined to cling onto the pony movement here. They are entirely two different things that originated around two different concepts not even mentioning the fact they are more than thirty years apart.

 

Most bronies aren't furries because they don't see themselves as such. With that being said, I find it rather unfair to automatically label a brony (with no ties to furries) as a furry. Furries have a strange habit of retroactively classifying the slightest thing anthro as furry anyways, but still.

[Buttonmash1973 1,026]

I was a furry from the 1990's until last decade.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Ulrik Raben

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Why does everyone keep thinking bronies are furries? Is it because both fandoms share the same social integrity? Or perhaps its because some furries are bronies and that gives the entire community the right to say we are furs?

It is because of how they can be said to relate. Of note though while they do share things in common not all Furries are Bronies and not all Bronies are Furry.

 

How they relate, and how Bronies could be consider a branch off from the furry fandom, is as follows:

* Both are fans of anthromorphic characters/entertainment/art

* Both have create anthromorphic characters of their own

* Both have fans that may look at what they enjoy in a sexual way (Yiffers and Cloppers).

 

Bronies can be considered a far more 'focused' furry.

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Furry/Anthro is, as I define it, as follows: Having animals or animal-like characters with strong human characteristics. Such as having the body and shape of humans, wearing clothing, talking, living a life or having a culture/society like humans (houses, jobs, government, social groups, exc). Essentually they live a life like ours, allowing us to relate to them because of personality or lifestyle.

 

Admittingly MLP:FiM can be said to be lower on the scale of 'furry' as they make pony/animal shaped bodies, do not always wear clothes, and mostly walk on four legs. Their body and shape are not human in design. The characters of the show do have the following human traits though: personalities and intelligence like ours, a sociaty and culture similar to ours, they live in houses and have jobs, exc.

Edited June 9, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[AppleDerpy20 59]

No.

 

I don't even like the furries because all they do is yiff and raid chats and ruin sites with their cancer.

[Rarity Paige Belle 1,854]

No.

 

I don't even like the furries because all they do is yiff and raid chats and ruin sites with their cancer.

Erm.. that's basically what we do!

[GreyScholar 1,584]

No.

 

I don't even like the furries because all they do is yiff and raid chats and ruin sites with their cancer.

Your having the stereotype/minority be treated as the whole. That is not what all or even most furries do.

Edited June 9, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[ChipsAhoyMcCoy 127]

I am a Furry and a Brony. As far as yiff goes it falls in the same catagory as clopping does i dont like it but i dont care if anyone else does.

[Windseeker 546]

How they relate, and how Bronies could be consider a branch off from the furry fandom, is as follows:

* Both are fans of anthromorphic characters/entertainment/art

* Both have create anthromorphic characters of their own

* Both have fans that may look at what they enjoy in a sexual way.

Over-simplified and too subtle. That applies to many fandoms. You think it's fair to just label them as furries? I'll tell you why below.

 

Furry/Anthro is, as I define it, as follows: Having animals or animal-like characters with strong human characteristics. Such as having the body and shape of humans, wearing clothing, talking, living a life or having a culture/society like humans (houses, jobs, government, social groups, exc). Essentually they live a life like ours, allowing us to relate to them because of personality or lifestyle.

Furs always have this strange habit of classifying everything anthro related as part of their fandom, there are quite a few not-so-nice reasons (I'm not gonna cover) behind that. Bronydom was centered around a TV show regarding sapient quadrupeds, while the furries where formed around a graphic novel (Albedo Anthropomorphics) of the eighties and sadly devolved since they crawled out of Usenet. Two completely different histories revolving around two completely different things.

 

The big difference is, that furries don't talk about cartoons like they used to in alt.fan.furry. The art of their fandom is centered around borderline porn of OCs and crappy fan fictions, it's nothing like what it was thirty years ago, the only thing closest to what they use to be is the plethora of Sonic and Pokemorph art. Just because you look up a definition of anthropomorphism and slap furry on the front of the term doesn't make them the legal owners of it, nor is it an excuse to cling to other similar qualities without giving people a choice of fandom identity.

 

With that being said, bronies have the right not to associate themselves with the furry community as they pretty much aren't furries to begin with. With all the brony hate in the furry fandom, I couldn't absolutely blame them not wanting anything to do with furries!

 

Bronies can be considered a far more 'focused' furry.

No.

 

I don't even like the furries because all they do is yiff and raid chats and ruin sites with their cancer.

Thank you!

 

I'm not alone after all.

Edited June 10, 2014 by Flandre Scarlet Pony

[Carbon Maestro 1,003]

Ehhh, people can consider themselves whatever they want to be. I wouldn't consider myself one.

 

The College humor video though...

[AppleDerpy20 59]

Your having the stereotype/minority be treated as the whole. That is not what all or even most furries do.

Most of the furries I've met fall into that category. They are brain-dead idiots who can't take a clue to shut the hell up and get the hell out and not taint everything with their crappy art.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Your Disagreement

Well then, we will have to agree to disagree.

 

Media and Entertainment I consider 'furry':

Disney's Robinhood (movie), Kung Fu Panda (movie), Cats Don't Dance (movie), Chip n Dale: Rescue Rangers (tv series), Darkwing Duck (tv series), Ducktales (tv series), Talespin (tv series), Animaniacs (tv series), Sonic SatAM (tv series), Starfox series (video game) Redwall book series, Mouse Guard comic series, Dreamkeepers comic series, Ironclaw and Jadeclaw roleplaying games... and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

 

Most of the furries I've met fall into that category. They are brain-dead idiots who can't take a clue to shut the hell up and get the hell out and not taint everything with their crappy art.

Well I find it both insulting and untrue, as much so as the stereotypes given to Bronies. Edited June 10, 2014 by EquestrianScholar

[Windseeker 546]

Well then, we will have to agree to disagree.

 

Media and Entertainment I consider 'furry':

Disney's Robinhood (movie), Kung Fu Panda (movie), Cats Don't Dance (movie), Chip n Dale: Rescue Rangers (tv series), Darkwing Duck (tv series), Ducktales (tv series), Talespin (tv series), Animaniacs (tv series), Sonic SatAM (tv series), Starfox series (video game) Redwall book series, Mouse Guard comic series, Dreamkeepers comic series, Ironclaw and Jadeclaw roleplaying games... and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

Those are things that the furry community should have represent (minus the last one). However, it truly isn't.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Those are things that the furry community should have represent (minus the last one). However, it truly isn't.

Well then... for me the above lidt is what leads m to be a furry.

 

Thank you for your considerate and thoughtful words on who and what I am as a furry, telling me that I am wrong. I do so appreciate such insults and stereotyping. It is nice to see people taking the worst of a fandom and insisting it is the norm.

-If you cannot tell, I'm being sarcastic and actually find myself want to be less nice then I have been-

 

... perhaps I am the exception to the 'rule', as it were, on who and what furries are.

Edited June 10, 2014 by EquestrianScholar