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Easy

 

  • Underdeveloped backstory
  • Mary Sueish abilities
  • Immortal
  • Overly dark stories
  • Bad color scheme
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Easy

 

  • Underdeveloped backstory
  • Mary Sueish abilities
  • Immortal
  • Overly dark stories
  • Bad color scheme

 

These are more opinions that are invalid, I've seen OC's with immortality of some kind, over dark stories and they still turned out be good OC. Sorry if the beginning was kind of mean...


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*sigh* I came here to express my opinion not be antagonized its opinion based if you don't agree with me that's fine I'm not saying to agree with me 

because apparently asking a question makes me an antagonist, right?

 

oh, oops, I'm asking more questions. I'm so evil.

Yeah, but is there such thing as a "Justifiable Alicorn?" Princess Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and Twilight Sparkle are the Alicorn rulers of Equestria. What about the other countries? Wouldn't they have an/some Alicorn leader(s), too? Sandal Arabia was mentioned in one of the episodes, and they probably would.

it's kinda silly to expect all leaders in countries other than Equestria to be leaders, wouldn't it? (especially if you're going to make an alicorn OC) I mean, in Journal canon, Celly and Luna were only appointed to leaders, themselves, by Starswirl, off the fact that he thought they could be unbiased when it came to leading the other races.

So if someone creates an OC and they have bias toward other races, I don't think they'd be fit to be rulers, of any kind (or what about if that's just not their interest or expertise, ruling a country?) I think then, an alicorn OC could be considered justifiable.


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The only bad OC is the one you don't make. ;)

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because apparently asking a question makes me an antagonist, right?

 

oh, oops, I'm asking more questions. I'm so evil.

it's kinda silly to expect all leaders in countries other than Equestria to be leaders, wouldn't it? (especially if you're going to make an alicorn OC) I mean, in Journal canon, Celly and Luna were only appointed to leaders, themselves, by Starswirl, off the fact that he thought they could be unbiased when it came to leading the other races.

So if someone creates an OC and they have bias toward other races, I don't think they'd be fit to be rulers, of any kind (or what about if that's just not their interest or expertise, ruling a country?) I think then, an alicorn OC could be considered justifiable.

Don't you mean that it's kind of silly to expect all leaders in counties other than Equestria to be Alicorns?

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Pretty much any OC with over-the-top powers with no consequences, whatsoever. I like RP's with alot of action, so it does get hard to balance things out and think of a really creative OC that doesn't totally crap on the story ( pardon my French ).

 

For example, I've made an ice Mage OC for an RP. He is powerful, but is very old. He generally needs a source of water to perform any magic, and if he uses too much power, his old age starts to overtake him and wil be weakend.

 

I always try to balance out strength and weaknesses. Sometimes the weakness can be physical, or a personality flaw, etc. it all depends on how you incorporate it into the story.

 

Now a bad OC, in my opinion, is one that can never be defeated, has no weaknesses, is very vanilla with their backstory, and is basically a war god with the power to destroy the entire world 10 times over.

 

 

Flaws make a character more believable. Who wants to be perfect when a perfect person is an absolutely boring person?


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I think that differing from a bad oc to a good oc varies per person.

 

Although, having an oc that is the "creator of the universe", has no flaws, or  yeah a mary sue are probably a few of the widely accept "rules" of a "bad" oc


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Alicorns.

 

Now you can make an argument that alicorn a other the Luna and Celestia are canon, and if your OC follows a very detailed backstory explaining why, then they aren't so bad. However, alicorns have given themselves a bad wrap, because people create them (Most of the time) to have a powerful and special character. MOST alicorn OC's are created by people who have no idea what they are doing, they just want a overpowered, Mary Sue character.

 

My logic on OC's? If you can't imagine them being in the background during a regular airing of MLP, they are most likely not a good character. That's just appearance, I also believe OCs should have a original and complicated backstory to make them perfect for either roleplay or fanfiction.

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After reading all these comments, I want someone to create an OC alicorn named 'Mary Sue' :lol:

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After reading all these comments, I want someone to create an OC alicorn named 'Mary Sue' :lol:

Don't give me ideas man... I totally wanna do it now XD


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Don't give me ideas man... I totally wanna do it now XD

I know same here XD If I had the time I would. She would have to be more powerful than Celestia and Luna combined and with more friendship power than Twilight and more love than Cadance :lol:

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I know same here XD If I had the time I would. She would have to be more powerful than Celestia and Luna combined and with more friendship power than Twilight and more love than Cadance :lol:

And she'd be red and black and super evil but friends with everypony anyway cause that makes perfect sense right? XD


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And she'd be red and black and super evil but friends with everypony anyway cause that makes perfect sense right? XD

:lol:

 

I was thinking gold for both mane and coat ;)

Or completely white, or crystal :lol:

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:lol:

 

I was thinking gold for both mane and coat ;)

Or completely white, or crystal :lol:

Yes! Gold is even better! This is gonna be the best OC EVAR! XD


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Yes! Gold is even better! This is gonna be the best OC EVAR! XD

I'm gonna have to scrap my OC in favour of Mary Sue I think XD

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I'm gonna have to scrap my OC in favour of Mary Sue I think XD

Yeah, do it man! This is gonna be awesome!

 

Come to think of it... Would this count as off topic? XD


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Yeah, do it man! This is gonna be awesome!

 

Come to think of it... Would this count as off topic? XD

We're stating what makes a bad OC so hopefully not? :(

 

OT: I think a bad OC also requires maybe a generic tragic backstory?

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A bad OC is the following:

 

1. Overpowered. And no, that doesn't necessarily mean "alicorn". I have an alicorn character in my fanfiction. I worked hard to make him flawed, and not to win at everything. In fact, he gets a smackdown by the villain the first time they meet, and he has to be taught how to use his magic by Twilight Sparkle. Even after he's gotten better, he's still not better than Twilight Sparkle. To go back to what I'm saying, an overpowered OC is a terrible one. For example, if your pegasus OC can beat Rainbow Dash in a race every time, do a Sonic Rainboom and pwn the Wonderbolts every time they fly. That is overpowered and frankly, quite ridiculous. Nopony is saying that your OC can't have a talent; however, they can't be good at everything, or else it's not believable.

 

2. Mary Sue/Gary Stu. Don't know what one is? Basically, a Mary Sue (or Gary Stu if your OC is male) is perfect at everything, talented at everything, never makes mistakes and is loved by all. In other words, YAAAAWWWWNNNN. Mary Sues are really boring to read about, and in RP they end up making the RP completely unfun for everyone else.

 

3. Cluttered. Does your OC really have to have five horns, two sets of wings, sixteen bracelets and be coloured as tho somepony ate Skittles and vomited the rainbow? If you think I'm joking... sadly, I have seen OCs like that, and the people who had them were serious. O_o

 

4. Not sticking to race restrictions. Let me put it this way. If your earth pony OC can fly, your pegasus OC can do magic for no good reason and your unicorn OC is "more powerful than Celestia", then you need to go rewatch the show. There are exceptions, yes, but you need to have a damn good backstory to explain why your OC can bend the rules of his/her race. I've also seen people do this as an arsepull to basically say, "Um, my OC is not a Mary Sue! She's an earth pony, not an alicorn!", totally ignoring the fact that alicorn OCs do not always equal Mary Sue and if your earth pony OC can do magic and fly, they're basically an alicorn in all but name anyway.

 

5. Depressing. Look, nopony is saying that you can't have a tragic back story for your OC. But you need to do two things. One, be original. I see a lot of dead parents stories and they're getting old fast. Make sure too that you put a lot of work into your back story. Make it character building, rather than to be used as an excuse for why your OC is a complete arse to everyone. Make them work hard to overcome things, rather than expect everything to be handed to them on a plate cuz they've suffered. Secondly, don't have them bang endlessly on about their tragic past. Seriously, most people who have suffered trauma don't do that.

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Yes! Gold is even better! This is gonna be the best OC EVAR! XD

 

 

In a fanfic I made, there was this Mary Sue pony who was all gold. So, yeah, it's a good color. Also, why don't you add a crown and those shoes royal ailcorns wear?

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I don't like seeing all of these OC's with "The parents are dead" that gets old fast and you've really got to be a good writer to make that kind of thing work. If your going to have someone dead in the OC's past maybe make them a cousin or someone they never knew or something to that effect.

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Name: Lightning Dash

Age: Unknown

Gender: Male

Species: Alicorn

Cutie Mark: Lightning.

Power: Can control all weather and lightning, has insane amount of power, mentored Celestia. Loves (insert name of mane six pony) Defeated discord. Extremely fast.

 

Something like that?

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