movies/tv MLP Forums WWE Discussion Thread - 2013 to Wrestlemania XXX

[Sonicrules831 520]

Yeah I always thought the moment that Hell No looses the belts they'll split. I really enjoyed them being a tag team though. It would make sense, only, if the Shield win the tag team titles.

 

How about Lesnar? Surprised he came back. But it looks like the game's career could be on the line again, we'll have to see.

[DJRainbowDash 724]

Oh and make sure to watch next week everybody. Raw is live in the UK next week, and if you remember the amazing after WM Raw crowd was a huge thanks to British fans. 

 

Expect major crowd interaction!

[Sonicrules831 520]

I enjoyed the crowd singing Fandango's theme song lol. The crowd Monday after Wrestlemania was awesome! They were really into it. I love the crowd interaction!

[DJRainbowDash 724]

Yeah I always thought the moment that Hell No looses the belts they'll split. I really enjoyed them being a tag team though. It would make sense, only, if the Shield win the tag team titles.

 

How about Lesnar? Surprised he came back. But it looks like the game's career could be on the line again, we'll have to see.

 

Well for one, I think Lesnar vs HHH III could be good if they quickened the match pace more. Their match at WM was very slow and sluggish, and it hurt the match.

 

I don't think HHH will truly ever retire btw, I think his ego is too much for him to stay away, even though he is a respectable guy in the field and all.

 

I enjoyed the crowd singing Fandango's theme song lol. The crowd Monday after Wrestlemania was awesome! They were really into it. I love the crowd interaction!

 

I so wish I could have gone to that. It was only a couple hours from where I lived, and we could have gone if we remembered that they were doing Raw in Izod. 

[Sonicrules831 520]

Yeah plus him and Stephanie will be running the business in the future.

 

Haha! It makes me want to sing it. I've been to WWE before in Cincinnati and Lexington. I would love to go again if I can

[Avalionis 201]

I wonder what the CM Punk thing is about. He was talking about what was next in his career and he mentioned the Undertaker's streak. He then took a long pause, hugged Paul Heyman and gave him the mic, and left. I wonder if he's taking a break possibly or he's just acting depressed.

 

probably taking time off. next time we see him, hopefully he'll be a face again.

 

Holy crap is tonight's crowd for Raw terrible. Then again anything after last week was going to be a letdown but I think a morgue has more excitement that tonight's Raw.

 

yeah, crowds these days have been pretty terrible. I mean the one in NJ was electric...the one in New Orleans for Elimination Chamber was just...monotonous to say the least...and this is where they want to hold Wrestlemania 30 next year? not sure, if they were thinking straight about this one.

 

there's also little respect for wrestlers of the 90's too...remember when Roadd Dogg made his return appearance? people hardly cheered, let alone clapped for him. very little reaction from the fans for a veteran like him. yet bring out the "kid's hero" John Cena, and you get a moderate reaction. mixed cheers and boos...mostly boos though...I mean, Cena's a great wrestler, don't get me wrong...I respect him for what he does...but his gimmick has been going on for 8 years now...we know, he doesn't give up without a fight, we know, he won't back down from a challenge, but to play this each and every week for 8 years straight and expect the same fan reaction they had back then?

 

Cena is this generations Hulk Hogan, but this ain't the 80's...people don't have much paitence for things anymore. If they wanted a good reaction, they could have Cena do a heel turn, to rival that of Hogan's, when he teamed up with Keven Nash and Scott Hall, to form the NWO. I still remember how much trash was thrown into the ring during that skit...now THAT was a reaction from the fans.

[Doctor XFizzle 8,669]

WWE has been so boring since WM. I would like the extra time before Extreme Rules if the feuds weren't booked and written so poorly leading up to it. Only good feud being built is Del Rio vs. Ziggler vs. Swagger. Cena/Ryback is meh, Shield/Hell No has been okay. Brock/HHH is boring because neither are there every week and how are we to believe Brock destroying HHH's office is supposed to fuel the flames between them when Vince already got attacked and Heyman made fun of HHH's wife. Sheamus/Henry and Show/Orton have been meh too.

 

Also there's been no movements on the US and IC title fronts. I have to believe they're going to continue Kofi vs. Cesaro but they didn't interact yesterday. Barrett has no feud right now.

 

My guess at Extreme Rules' card:

Steel Cage Match - Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar

World Heavyweight Championship Ladder Match - Dolph Ziggler © vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Jack Swagger

WWE Championship Last Man Standing Match - John Cena © vs. Ryback

World Tag Team Championship ? Match - Hell No © (Kane and Daniel Bryan) vs. Shield (Rollins/Reigns/Ambrose)

Strap Match - Sheamus vs. Mark Henry

? Match - Big Show vs. Randy Orton

? Match - Fandango vs. Chris Jericho

Divas Championship ? Match - Kaitlyn © vs. AJ 

Edited May 7, 2013 by Doctor XFizzle

[Sonicrules831 520]

I think John Cena retains it but if he loses I think he takes a break like CM Punk did, his achillies tendon? I could be wrong

I hate to say this but The Shield will win and Team Hell No will break up

I think Sheamus beats Mark Henry

Fandango will win because he's being pushed by WWE

Dolph Ziggler will retain his title although I'll be rooting for Alberto

As for Triple HHH and Lesnar, HHH wins again

[Scootalove 10,689]

Extreme Rules will definitely be a PPV this year, that I will remember after Wrestlemania. The card so far is pretty solid.

 

I can't wait.

[Doctor XFizzle 8,669]

since it sounds like Kofi Kingston is getting in on the Shield vs. Hell No action, how about a 6-man tag at Extreme Rules

 

Tag Team and United States Championships on the line

 

Basically if Kane or Bryan pin a Shield member, they keep the tag belts and Kofi keeps his belt just because. But if a member of the Shield pins Kane or Bryan they win the tag belts, if a Shield member pins Kofi, that member wins the US Title AND The Shield win the tag belts.

Edited May 8, 2013 by Doctor XFizzle

[Avalionis 201]

well, here are my predictions for Extreme Rules airing this Sunday...

 

Chris Jericho vs. (w) Fandango

Team Hell No vs. Reigns and Rollins (w-New World Tag Team Champions)

Randy Orton (w) vs. Big Show

Sheamus vs. (w) Mark Henry

Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar (w)

Kofi Kingston vs. Dean Ambrose (w-New United States Champion)

Alberto Del Rio (w) vs. Jack Swagger

John Cena (w) vs. Ryback

 

Paul Heyman reveals his newest client...something tells me, it's gonna be Ryback.

 

edit: Curtis Axel...must be Curt Hennings son.

Edited May 21, 2013 by Avalionis

[Doctor XFizzle 8,669]

Oh man did I get the chills last night when the Wyatt Family debuted. I was surprised at all the hype WWE was building up for them but damn that entrance was tingling. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nQuETm4gYY

Edited July 9, 2013 by Doctor XFizzle

[Avalionis 201]

Oh man did I get the chills last night when the Wyatt Family debuted. I was surprised at all the hype WWE was building up for them but damn that entrance was tingling. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nQuETm4gYY

 

WWE did an excellent job debuting the Wyatt Family...it'll be interesting to see, how this plays out for sure. And if they go after John Cena, that'll make the anti-cena crowd VERY happy...cause I doubt the WWE will let Henry win the title this Sunday...:|

[Doctor XFizzle 8,669]

Money in the Bank tonight

 

I'm thinking Sheamus wins the Raw case and Dean Ambrose or Wade Barrett wins the Smackdown case

 

Daniel Bryan has been too good lately and him winning would be too obvious. He can get a title shot without needing the case.

[Sonicrules831 520]

I think RVD will come back on the right foot and win. But again I would love to see him win. I missed him, glad he's back! Should be fun to watch

[sibonny 18]

...there is a wrestling related topic I've been not aware of?...oh my. Anyway. Honestly, I'm not that interested that much(with Brad as general manager, I can just think about Brad pissing a superstar and being destroyed.). Oh well, honestly apart from this, there are two things I want to see

1) I don't know about you, but I find that Brock attacking Punk was a start of a (very interesting and beautiful) feud. To make it more interesting, let's put Heyman at the ring-side so we can see who he choose >D (or at least if he choose Punk, to see Heyman getting F5-ed for good.). But apart from that, if Punk win, I riot. I will quit watching WWE, go and cry in a corner and probably commit suicide due the amount of stupidness (my opinion just,of course). Is enough that they made Cena the winner at Extreme Rules 2012 just for the 6-8 years old kids and because Cena is WWE's Golden Boy. But well, it sometime's matter who dominated too in wrestling. And in this case, well, I don't think I need to tell who win at this category.

2) Kane burning somebody. He is underrated, and WWE seems to forget that he is meant to be. Burning or torturing, either works for me.

 

P.S. fan since 2005 (researching though.). Also keep in mind those are just my opinions

[Castle Bleck 19,363]

Oh Ryback, what have they done to you?!

 

They took you from "FEED ME MORE!!!" to "STOP THE MATCH!!!" in only a matter of weeks!

 

What happened to the Goldberg-ish juggernaut who plowed through someone like Mark Henry post-WM?!

[Shanks 10,816]

Oh Ryback, what have they done to you?!

That and they are turning him into another Big Show and I hate it, I don't mind him being a heel if anything he makes a good one even though I do prefer him as more of anti hero but the whining just dosen't suit him.

[Avalionis 201]

big surprise, that Cena managed to deliver the AA to Henry...the little kids got to see "Super Cena" do it yet again...¬.¬ doesn't seem fair, that Henry who rightly deserves the WWE championship, gets denied, all because the little kids would have temper tantrums if "Super Cena" even loses one single match these days. :|

 

A.J. retains, costs Ziggler the match...makes sense, because he hasn't REALLY made the full transition to face status yet...we'll probably see that on Smackdown. Damien costing Cody the match...well they DID shake hands stating "May the best man win" well before the PPV, so we may see Rhodes do a face turn here...then again, he may "let bygones be bygones".

 

Orton winning the brief case...dunno about that...he could use it, to make a heel turn, and hopefully beat Cena, but again like I said...the WWE can't have Cena lose ANY match, cause "Super Cena" is suppose to be invincible and unstoppable...god help them, if he faces Undertaker at Wrestlemania next year...cause if he DOES beat Taker, making it 21-1, I can tell, ALOT of fans will NOT be happy about it. I wouldn't be surprised, if the WWE loses alot of fans because of it.

 

(I say "little ones", since that's what the WWE seems to be aiming for, instead of their loyal fanbase from the attitude era.)

 

 

Oh Ryback, what have they done to you?!

 

yeah, I gotta say this was a pretty poor decision on their part. I mean he DOES make a great heel...but he's a whining heel...and I hate those. >.<

 

edit: think, they're trying to portray Ryback as a "bully" and that "all bully's are nothing more, than big babies". not necessarily true though. some, just bully others, for sheer pleasure and enjoyment...but I digress.

 

Somewhat disapointed that the Usos didn't win the tag titles...but then again, the Shield can't really be stopped...unless you seperate them somehow, someway, they can't be beaten. though I wouldn't mind seeing them going after the Wyatt Family...that might make for an interesting storyline.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Avalionis

[Castle Bleck 19,363]

Another issue that I have is with Big E. Langston's finisher, which looks like it would actually hurt HIM more than it would his opponent.

 

Edited July 16, 2013 by Anti-Villain

[Scootalove 10,689]

RVD returning was pretty much something that we did love at Money in the Bank, and he might probably face Jericho tonight on RAW. I just hope that we get Ziggler vs. Cena at Summerslam.

[Avalionis 201]

well Daniel Bryan will face "Super Cena" at Summerslam...not that it matters really, cause he's got no chance of winning, cause the WWE wants to pacify the "Cena fans", by ensuring he remains WWE champion as well as being undefeated as long as humanly possible.

[Castle Bleck 19,363]

well Daniel Bryan will face "Super Cena" at Summerslam...not that it matters really, cause he's got no chance of winning, cause the WWE wants to pacify the "Cena fans", by ensuring he remains WWE champion as well as being undefeated as long as humanly possible.

At least Daniel Bryan's finally moving up the ladder, chance of winning or not.

 

P.S.- Remember that episode of SmackDown where he single-handedly destroyed The Shield? YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

[Shanks 10,816]

big surprise, that Cena managed to deliver the AA to Henry...the little kids got to see "Super Cena" do it yet again...

Cena is a good wrestler that can kick some serious ass in the ring when he wants to but having him win ALL THE TIME is getting seriously old and predictable. Which is one of the reasons why I am glad that Randy Orton got the money in the bank wwe championship contract, I just hope that once Orton cashes it in and beats Cena that Cena dosen't get his "redemption" and "win" his rematch. It is not that I find it completely unbelievable that he can beat Orton as I could see a match like that going either way but I do find it a bit unbelievable as to exactly how much he is winning. He is as tough as nails but he is not anywhere near the likes of Bruno Sammartino but they are portraying him like he is the greatest wrestler since Bruno Sammartino.

[Avalionis 201]

Remember that episode of SmackDown where he single-handedly destroyed The Shield?

 

you mean this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X-e1CVc310

 

that had to be, the single greatest moment on Smackdown...that should be the OMG moment of the year. never saw anyone dismantle the Shield in such a way...I mean, Mark Henry stood his ground, but was beaten eventually...Ryback and "Super Cena" never stood a chance against them, yet the Goat Man gives the Shield a run for their money.

 

 

 

 

Cena is a good wrestler that can kick some serious ass in the ring when he wants to but having him win ALL THE TIME is getting seriously old and predictable. Which is one of the reasons why I am glad that Randy Orton got the money in the bank wwe championship contract, I just hope that once Orton cashes it in and beats Cena that Cena doesn't get his "redemption" and "win" his rematch. It is not that I find it completely unbelievable that he can beat Orton as I could see a match like that going either way but I do find it a bit unbelievable as to exactly how much he is winning. He is as tough as nails but he is not anywhere near the likes of Bruno Sammartino but they are portraying him like he is the greatest wrestler since Bruno Sammartino.

 

Cena is this generations Hulk Hogan. Hogan was a legend back in the 80's, and kids looked up to him, like an idol. But when he made his first ever(?) heel turn in WCW, to help Nash and Hall form the NWO, it was the biggest bomb shell in pro wrestling history. I still remember how much crap was thrown in the ring after that. And when, he returned to the WWE, to face the Rock at Wrestlemania XVIII, it was huge. Two legends, from two different generations facing each other...then of course at Wrestlemania XXVII, when Rock faced Cena for the first time, again, it was two different legends from two different generations, and again, it was an epic match...though their rematches fell short of being good.

 

Should Cena ever make a heel turn, it would devastate the young Cena fans...but done properly, it could very well, be known, as one of the greatest story lines the WWE could ever produce. As for his being "undefeated" like I said, the fans see him as being "invincible", and about a week prior to Wrestlemania XXIX, he said "failure is not an option", and that his loss to the Rock at the previous years Wrestlemania, bothered him...it ate away at him...and that kinda protrays to the "little kids", that "losing means failure, and that's never to be an option", whereas the Rock said, he "learned from his past mistakes", and that's what made him, the legend he is today.

 

Kids need to understand, that mistakes and errors will happen somewhere, somehow, someway...but that they must LEARN from those mistakes, to better themselves. To a guy like Cena, he can't make mistakes, and why? Cause he's afraid of "letting the fans down?" When Hogan lost the WWE title, to the Ultimate Warrior, at Wrestlemania VI, do you think he felt that he "let the fans down"? Possibly...but the fans, I imagine, knew that Hogan gave it his all...did the best he could do...in the end, Warrior, "was just better."

 

Even Mark Henry noted this, after his loss to Cena this past Sunday...he said, he gave it his all, and pushed Cena to the limit, and that he wasn't afraid, to admit he tapped out...Cena just seems like he'd never admit failure, or tapping out, or even to making mistakes, other than his "mocking of the People's Elbow", and that just seems like the wrong image to convey.

 

I'm not really trying to diss Cena...I know, he's an excellent athlete, and all...but he's been the "boyscout" for over 8 years now...I say, he needs to give it a rest. He needs to stop playing the "hero" to these little ones, so much, because this is pro wrestling...not some violent episode of Sesame Street. Parents whining about how "graphic" wrestling is, needs to understand...it is NOT geared for young children...it's meant for older children...young teens if you will.

 

And parents also need to understand, that they're responsible for raising their kids...no one else, is going to teach them right from wrong, yet they figure "boyscout leader Cena" will do it for them, well even he's not responsible for how your kids, end up so many years down the line.

Edited July 16, 2013 by Avalionis