Professor Annabella 330 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 (edited) Well I was just in a topic, and I posted about the banning policy a certain site has, but I am not going to mention it. If you really want to know, find the post on my profile. The policy was: "Love and tollerence is earned, not given" Is this true? With love and tolerance, which you can translate into the general happiness that bronies share with other bronies or people from the show, is it earned? Or is it given freely? If you come across a mean person, to you ignore them complete/be mean back to them, or do you try to be friendly and nice anyway? Do you give people more then one chance, or if they ever mess up, are they no longer aloud to have your 'love and tolerance' but instead they have to earn it back? That's about it, discuss below Edited August 10, 2014 by Star-Lord Click My Sig to check out my OC Professor Annabella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 "Love and Tolerance" was never really a thing, honestly. This fandom certainly hasn't embraced it. It's a pretty cold and intolerant fandom, but meh. Pretty much every fandom is like that. I don't know where that saying comes from, honestly, but it doesn't have to be earned because you can't earn what never existed. 9 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Annabella 330 August 10, 2014 Author Share August 10, 2014 "Love and Tolerance" was never really a thing, honestly. This fandom certainly hasn't embraced it. It's a pretty cold and intolerant fandom, but meh. Pretty much every fandom is like that. I don't know where that saying comes from, honestly, but it doesn't have to be earned because you can't earn what never existed. That's pretty ironic, since we're one of the most looked down upon fandoms on the internet There is no postive side? I know a lot of bronies that are light-hearted, fun, and always friendly 3 Click My Sig to check out my OC Professor Annabella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadetGrey 267 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 (edited) [This post is hidden. No offense to anyone, but I am no longer part of the community and no longer wish to be an (active) part of the forums. I treasure the friendships I made along the way. Thank you!] Edited March 28, 2021 by CadetGrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 I know a lot of bronies that are light-hearted, fun, and always friendly Yeahh, so do I I know a lot of them who are really mean, too. We're not really that special of a fandom except for the fact we have an insane amount of fanwork done and a very dedicated fanbase. In terms of how the people in it act towards one another, we're no different than any of the other ones 1 He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Annabella 330 August 10, 2014 Author Share August 10, 2014 I think we all start of with a certain amount of respect, love and tolerance. We're all human, after all. More of it can be earned, but it can also be lost. This is the result of your actions: what you do, what you say... That kind of stuff! But those are just my thoughts and my opinion. Hmm, I agree. So it's mostly the factor of how much respect you start with, which I think should be a lot, until your actions, decisions, what you say influence it, which can make it more, or lower. Click My Sig to check out my OC Professor Annabella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hip-indeed 304 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Oh, my god, I had a big reply typed out and then it was all deleted because I went to click the 'b' for bold and clicked my avatar instead and it took me to my profile. Just forget it. Basically no, you shouldn't have to earn it by its very principle, but at the same time I don't think anyone misbehaving on a forum should 'hide behind it' as an excuse for behaving improperly and expecting people to 'love and tolerate'. That's the thing, it's a wonderful thing to truly live by such a term but it's something totally different to 'hide behind it' as an excuse. 5 (Sig art © uc77) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,854 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 "Love and Tolerance" was never really a thing, honestly. This fandom certainly hasn't embraced it. It's a pretty cold and intolerant fandom, but meh. Pretty much every fandom is like that. I don't know where that saying comes from, honestly, but it doesn't have to be earned because you can't earn what never existed.Well you know my view in general on that motto. To me it was a shield in a way to deal with trolls or bullies. The fans that practice that motto don't do so because of a creed (though I freely admit words have influence). The kinder and more accepting Bronies are naturally that way. On the whole, it's the same as other fan centric sites ... maybe a little different in demographic (I'll find more thirty somethings in a Star Wars centric channel or site). Non quote response to this concept .... Where you congregate in the fandom also may have to with how you view 'L & T'. I know I first tried YouTube and EQD to engage other fans of the show with mixed results. I'm actually being quite forgiving there. I stumbled on MLPF because the mode and method of conversation is usually more sophisticated and open in a internet message board environment. I did anticipate tense and argumentative debates and flame wars, but what I found was not what I expected. This place is a bit of an exception. More laid back, better organized, and yes more tolerant. If it wasn't you can bet your ass I would have moved on. *Shrugs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anilewe 2,178 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 (edited) Respect should be given, no matter what you think about the opinions/lifestyle/religion/favorite ponies/etc. of other people. Love and tolerance? You don't have to love. Tolerate? It's up to you if you tolerate something, though you can't say that someone shouldn't do something just because you disagree with it. We should respect other people, at least as long as they don't hurt us or others. Some people seem to think that they can decide about feelings and opinions of other people and THIS is the real problem with our world. I try to respect everyone as long as they respect me. I might disagree with their opinions. Lifestyle. Culture. But I don't try to tell people in what they should believe, what they should think, how they should act... If they don't hurt anyone, it's none of my buisness. Edited August 10, 2014 by Anilewe 3 Fan of Applejack? Join us! We have the best cider from Sweet Apple Acres! ORANGESEXY IS THE BEST PONY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReverseFaller 2,483 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 "Love and Tolerance" was never really a thing, honestly. This fandom certainly hasn't embraced it. It's a pretty cold and intolerant fandom, but meh. Pretty much every fandom is like that. I don't know where that saying comes from, honestly, but it doesn't have to be earned because you can't earn what never existed. Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with this. This pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter perfectly. 1 Credit for the signature goes to Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abia 258 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Love and tolerance is given--or at least, part of it is. I agree with @Anilewe in that love isn't really a thing to give unconditionally. Friendliness would be more accurate for me. I do my best to always tolerate others and be friendly whenever I can, regardless of who I am speaking to. For me, this is more difficult in real life than online, but I do my best to maintain it anyway. People make mistakes and those mistakes should have the chance to be forgiven. While I do believe that love and tolerance should be given, I can understand why it is not in certain situations. Rule-breakers are an easy example. To continue to love and tolerate them after they have shown to hurt people causes more harm than it does good. In those cases, people should be separated, but this does not mean that the rule-breaker shouldn't be treated with respect. It is good to be tolerant to others, as that will teach them to be tolerant of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleWrangler 122 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 I think it would be more Love is earned tolerance is given Everyone should be given a chance, and if they are not bad people they become loved 1 If it has scales ... I'm all over it Luna For Prime Minister "Anyone for a spot of tea?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banul 3,831 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 (edited) I think people look at it the wrong way. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that I look at it differently. I interpret it to mean that you should keep an open mind, to not judge something outright because it seems weird. Bronies get a lot of flak for being different, and I think that this catchphrase is born from a desire to not be like the haters. It means to love and tolerate other people despite their quirks and differences, to accept them for who they are. That's a worthy goal, but that's only what I get out of the phrase. Other people may see something different. I get the feeling that people take the phrase to mean that you have to love and tolerate people even if they're being an asshat, and I don't think that is necessary. Edited August 10, 2014 by Banul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AveryGamerDude 4,640 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Sadly, nobody on this planet believes in love and tolerance... 1 I HAVE MORPHED 5 EXODIA, SETO KAIBA!! (Thanks to Emerald Heart for the banner!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Euphonium Brony 134 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 I like to see the best in everyone, Respect should be earned, but Love and Tolerance? I give that to everyone I meet 2 Bronies United: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg2PC2lhbdW6hZ-byOiIhSw/feed https://twitter.com/Bronies_United_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,854 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Sadly, nobody on this planet believes in love and tolerance... Speak for yourself Love, understand, and accept was my motto long before FiM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AveryGamerDude 4,640 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Speak for yourself Love, understand, and accept was my motto long before FiM. Well, it feels like everyone hates me. 1 I HAVE MORPHED 5 EXODIA, SETO KAIBA!! (Thanks to Emerald Heart for the banner!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,854 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Well, it feels like everyone hates me. Well, subtract one from that list 'cause I don't, even though we may have disagreed from time to time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cedar 1,408 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 That's a pretty odd way of stating a policy, honestly. However, as I mostly equate the whole "love and tolerance" bit to simple respect, I'll say that, while respect generally should be earned, in the absence of evidence that one does not deserve your respect, it should be given on the basis of the benefit of the doubt. Trust, on the other hand, not only needs to be earned, but has to be before it is given. Roleplaying OC: Red Cedar - Cast Character: Applejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 It's given and nobody gives it. And I mean bronies. I'll never forget reading those rabid comments when derpy got censored... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriticalStylus 65 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 Honestly, It'd be better if it wasn't an excuse to sound "Holier than thou", or if it didn't spoil or smother people. What's kindness without reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discordian 6,015 August 10, 2014 Share August 10, 2014 "Love and tolerance" is total bullshit anyway. I refuse to give people either without them proving to me that it's even worth putting in the effort. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonquil 20 August 11, 2014 Share August 11, 2014 (edited) Tolerance pretty much by definition is not earned but given. By my interpretation, anyway. noun the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with. Being willing to tolerate something different only when it's been "earned", through appealing to the group or providing a use (or whatever "earns" it), kind of defeats the purpose of allowing people to be different and have their own opinions in the first place. I think it's counterproductive to any community for basic tolerance and kindness to have to be earned, because people respond better to good treatment than hazing, mistrust, etc. There need to be limits, of course, such as not trusting someone new too much or tolerating too much disruptive behavior from someone who knows better. To be tolerant isn't to say "yes" to everything under the sun or to have no limits and boundaries. Edited August 11, 2014 by Jonquil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmasy Britty 2,553 August 11, 2014 Share August 11, 2014 everybody just has to be themselves if someone doesn't respect you for that who cares about their opinion because they won't matter in your life anyway, everybody is different and there will be different sides to everything after all there is the whole opposites thing I like red, you like blue, ect. but being different is what makes people unique in this world so amazing however if someone is being unkind or a problem just delete them from your life so that your life can get better signature by Pucksterv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPirateX 600 August 11, 2014 Share August 11, 2014 I see it as little bit of both. Sometimes you can give, but sometimes you have to earn it. It depends from person to person. 1 "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" ~ Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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