Does Anyone Else Hate Derpy?

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Nightmare Muffin,

Appearing in the background and just standing there with a dopey smile hardly counts as an appearance 

[ManaMinori 4,145]

@@Nightmare Muffin,

Appearing in the background and just standing there with a dopey smile hardly counts as an appearance 

if you're present, you're making an appearance. You're THERE.

You don't HAVE to be doing anything worth noticing to have made an appearance.

Appearance does not equal action.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Maybe so. But there's nothing saying Derpy is a genius either. There's nothing either way. However, she has shown dumbness for her screen time in the Last Roundup. 

 

As for Pinkie being down to earth, I should be saying she doesn't over think things

 

Right but again, that's how you know you have a character. They exist in some capacity even when they are not being depicted.

 

For instance, look at goombas. They have character traits as low level minions, but goomba A doesn't effect anything differently than goomba B whether either or shows up on screen. BUT! We can assume that each individual goomba actually does have a personality as they are not established to have a hive mind.

 

And lo and behold Nintendo makes two of them party members in the Paper Mario games and each has a distinct personality.

 

You could depict Slenderman mowing the lawn as a joke. But why is that a joke? Why is depicting this nebulously created character doing mundane things any less out of character than having him stalking people? Because characters can, and indeed do, arise spontaneously, but still have internal consistency.

 

Derpy is such an example.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

But it is only those Goombas you care about. If each henchmen had their own little backstory, then they cease to become henchmen and as such, the point of them, which is to die en masse, is lost

 

AS for Slenderman, the joke is that he's a raping, murdering, monster and he's doing a mundane activity. It's irony

 

With Derpy, I never note her presence. I can see her obviously, but I can see plenty of other side characters and they have no presence. They're there as filler, much like nameless drones 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

But it is only those Goombas you care about. If each henchmen had their own little backstory, then they cease to become henchmen and as such, the point of them, which is to die en masse, is lost

 

AS for Slenderman, the joke is that he's a raping, murdering, monster and he's doing a mundane activity. It's irony

 

With Derpy, I never note her presence. I can see her obviously, but I can see plenty of other side characters and they have no presence. They're there as filler, much like nameless drones 

 

Everything about Slenderman is fan made though. So me depicting him as doing mundane things without irony is, by your imposed standards on Derpy, technically valid.

 

So why is Slender Man "allowed" to have a character when none of the background ponies are?

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

Slenderman is fanmade, but as a general concept, he's a sadistic monster. Barring a few fanfics, he always has been a murderous fiend since his inception. You could make him do lawnwork, but it's impossible to portray it as serious because at the end of the day, he started off as a serial kiiller

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

Slenderman is fanmade, but as a general concept, he's a sadistic monster. Barring a few fanfics, he always has been a murderous fiend since his inception. You could make him do lawnwork, but it's impossible to portray it as serious because at the end of the day, he started off as a serial kiiller

 

And Derpy arose from the very same circumstances. She was a general concept. 

 

"Oh look that background pony has funny eyes!" It just took off from there. The final product wasn't anything deep or complex but it had a defined personality and wasn't out of place with the setting's usual zany characters.

 

So depicting Derpy as anything other than a klutzy, well meaning, muffin loving, mail delivering, mother of Dinky is not technically breaking canon no, but it's definitely that writer's interpretation of the character.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

That's fair enough, but it seems like every single interpretation I see is driving angst down my throat or making her an assistant to a Time Lord(where did that one come from?) 

[Blue The Pikachu 537]

@@Dark Qiviut

 

That's another reason I like Derpy, is because I relate to her myself. Yeah, they may have changed her to make her "not offensive" but we know what Hasbro originally intended the scene to be like. If they hadn't, they would have stopped all the merchandise with the original eyes and would have had them fixed in Season 4, but they didn't, and I'm cool with it.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

That's fair enough, but it seems like every single interpretation I see is driving angst down my throat or making her an assistant to a Time Lord(where did that one come from?) 

 

Well that's just bad exposure, not your fault but certainly not hers. You should read shorter comics that feature her, as per your astute observation, brevity is the soul of wit and where the character truly shines.

 

To answer your question though, Derpy was seen in the same scene with the Doctor a couple of times and as per the rule of the other source material, the Doctor needs a companion. So Derpy was sometimes depicted as being the Doctor's companion and it just stuck. I don't know any where she's a Timelord though, usually she's just a companion of the Doctor and that's it.

 

Oh, and the staff gave that team up their blessing as well.

 

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

I said she was an assistant, not actually one.

 

But my lack of understanding in that is likely due to my dislike of the show Doctor Who.

 

Anyway, I hate Derpy's fanon form, not the character itself, is that fair 

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

I said she was an assistant, not actually one.

 

But my lack of understanding in that is likely due to my dislike of the show Doctor Who.

 

Anyway, I hate Derpy's fanon form, not the character itself, is that fair 

 

Why do you dislike Doctor Who?

 

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Well, no, no I don't think it's fair that you hate anything. I especially find it hard to justify hating her fanon personality anyway of just a simple muffin eating mailmare. What's wrong with that?

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Why do you dislike Doctor Who?

I watched one episode and wasn't hooked. That's my general formula for television. My first MLP episode was the Canterlot Wedding, which is good, since the pilot was awful

 

 

 

Well, no, no I don't think it's fair that you hate anything. I especially find it hard to justify hating her fanon personality anyway of just a simple muffin eating mailmare. What's wrong with that?

I don't like the personality that makes her a tragic, but majestic figure who is a tortured soul trying to feed her foal 

[Jeric 46,860]

For me Derpy represents the concept of collaborative function of art. I can't hate that anymore than I can hate the red hat in Catcher in the Rye or the Green Light in Fitzgerald's little piece.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

 

 

I watched one episode and wasn't hooked. That's my general formula for television. My first MLP episode was the Canterlot Wedding, which is good, since the pilot was awful

 

Well that hardly seems fair. One episode and you jump to hate and dislike? If it doesn't grab you, that's fine but why should it earn your enmity? 

 

 

 

I don't like the personality that makes her a tragic, but majestic figure who is a tortured soul trying to feed her foal 

 

 

But that's not Derpy!  That's an interpretation of Derpy but all interpretations are from the jumping off point of this . . .

 

[mars 4,862]

For me Derpy represents the concept of collaborative function of art. I can't hate that anymore than I can hate the red hat in Catcher in the Rye or the Green Light in Fitzgerald's little piece.

Both fantastic books...

 

I like Ditzy. But I can agree that her fan base gets very angry quickly. I loved her new voice very much, more more than her original one, but everyone was up and arms about how they ruined her character. I was really bummed when Hasbro decided the only way to please both parties was to make her silent.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

All I see is this

 

And this

[AnonBrony 1,468]

You guys have not been around since the beginning of the fandom. I'll tell you all really why she is so special.

 

She was essentially our mascot back in the day. She was practically the first background pony that got fanon. And compared to the crowds of Lyras, Berrys, and Golden Harvests, she was different. Mainly cuz of the eye thing but still she was different from all the others. And because of that, we spotted her out and she continued to have those eyes. In a way she was our creation. For if we didn't notice her she wouldn't be like how she is today. So eventually she was like a mascot for the fandom; a pony that represented us. Even though nowadays she may not seem all that special cuz of 100 of other background pones, but back then she was one of a kind and something the fandom could all love mutually. She also became a way the show creators could acknowledge us and give us a nice wink at.

 

That is why many were up in arms during that period in 2012. Cuz our pony, our creation, our mascot, the pony that the storyboard artists and the writers liked putting in to acknowledge us, was changed. The pony that the whole fandom loved for who she was, was censored. And even if she technically wasn't our pony or our creation, it did feel that way, and she was still our mascot. And you know... she still sorta is. 

Edited November 5, 2014 by AnonBrony

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Hive King,

 

Well some people take Derpy and they turn her into a sad clown, they do the same for Pinkie too, her antics being a shield for deep depression.

 

Some people have Slender man sun tanning, that doesn't define the character though. 

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

In that case, I could just be unlucky. Every last bit of fanfic I've seen with Derpy is either badly written or angst. The one exception was one where Derpy was corrupted by the nightmare(author headcanon on nightmare moon), but was too nice to actually give a damn. So her attempts at killing ponies are rather half hearted. She eventually controls the nightmare and becomes a super hero. It was pretty funny, the arguments between Derpy and the nightmare

 

Also, that one Mr. Davie video where Derpy got killed by the CMC was very funny to me

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@AnonBrony,

 

Definitely still is. Brony since season 1 aired. Represent! 

[Hive King 2,001]

I came around during the middle of Season 3

[Steel Accord 6,660]

@@Steel Accord,

In that case, I could just be unlucky. Every last bit of fanfic I've seen with Derpy is either badly written or angst. The one exception was one where Derpy was corrupted by the nightmare(author headcanon on nightmare moon), but was too nice to actually give a damn. So her attempts at killing ponies are rather half hearted. She eventually controls the nightmare and becomes a super hero. It was pretty funny, the arguments between Derpy and the nightmare

 

Also, that one Mr. Davie video where Derpy got killed by the CMC was very funny to me

 

Well as I said, you need to read the shorter web comics with her as her personality is very much on full display in them and they're usually funny. 

 

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Yeah that same video made me want to puke.

[Hive King 2,001]

Well as I said, you need to read the shorter web comics with her as her personality is very much on full display in them and they're usually funny. 

 

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Yeah that same video made me want to puke.

SMILE HD and CUPCAKES HD were hilarious. I appreciated the DBZ references.

 

I didn't even dislike Derpy at that time, it was just funny

[Kothen 279]

Its be to expected. When things become loved there will be people who hate it as well. Example: Everything in existence ever. I don't hate her and I like her character a lot. Sure she isn't some deep story with a intricate back story, but she's adorable and I just like her. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions.