My Little Pony is an overrated cartoon.

[TheXboxBrony 6]

Is it Overrated? Yeah. Do I get a kick out of it because I find it legitimately funny? Yeah.

[Zenoctilles 102]

It's not like fans of other franchises can't make any fangames or have any fan conventions...

 

The show means more to a lot of us than just being entertaining, so I think it's safe to say the show has transcended its original purpose.

 

Precisely! How many shows have transcended their original purpose as entertainment? Quite a few, but that's only because they became pop culture phenomenons, i.e., The Simpsons, South Park, et al. MLP became a pop culture phenomenon by virtue of being an Internet meme, and hence is overrated because people see as much more than just a cartoon.

[Ezynell 2,037]

To this end, My Little Pony is overrated. Why don't other similar fan communities erupt for old cartoons? Oh right, because they have failed to become memes like MLP!

 

Still not as popular as my little pony.

[Zenoctilles 102]

Go ahead, spam images. It just shows that you have little to contribute to this conversation. And no, I'm not trolling. Just offering a fresh perspective on matters.

[prettycool 65]

And no, I'm not trolling.

 

I totally believe that flawless statement you posted! /Sarcasm

[Zenoctilles 102]

I totally believe that flawless statement you posted! /Sarcasm

 

We believe in "love and tolerance" so much that we can no longer have debates? Is that it? I'm not stipulating that I am objectively right (after all, "overrated" is a very subjective word), but healthy discussions can still spring up.

[1Fluttershy 411]

Precisely! How many shows have transcended their original purpose as entertainment? Quite a few, but that's only because they became pop culture phenomenons, i.e., The Simpsons, South Park, et al. MLP became a pop culture phenomenon by virtue of being an Internet meme, and hence is overrated because people see as much more than just a cartoon.

 

I meant people see it as more than a cartoon because they can relate to it and actually care about what happens to the characters, not because it's an internet meme. It's more than a cartoon to people if it had a personal impact on them.

 

The show is popular because a lot of people watched it for themselves and enjoyed it. I fail to see how fangames and fan conventions can make a show overrated. The show inspires people to make fangames, fanart, fanfics, etc. People have also made good friends simply they enjoy the show...however, that can be said for other shows as well. Just because a show has had a bigger impact on people than other shows does not mean it is overrated.

[prettycool 65]

We believe in "love and tolerance" so much that we can no longer have debates? Is that it? I'm not stipulating that I am objectively right (after all, "overrated" is a very subjective word), but healthy discussions can still spring up.

 

I actually don't believe in Love And Tolerance. In fact incase you didn't notice not many people aren't really tolerating or loving this wrong opinion of yours. (Yes opinions can be wrong! Don't judge me!)

[1Fluttershy 411]

I actually don't believe in Love And Tolerance. In fact incase you didn't notice not many people aren't really tolerating or loving this wrong opinion of yours. (Yes opinions can be wrong! Don't judge me!)

 

I don't think saying we disagree and providing reasons why we disagree means we aren't loving and tolerating someone's opinion. I still respect the OP's right to have an opinion, even though I don't agree with it.

[Lady Rarity Pony 4,892]

[Akemi Homura 7,680]

I actually don't believe in Love And Tolerance. In fact incase you didn't notice not many people aren't really tolerating or loving this wrong opinion of yours. (Yes opinions can be wrong! Don't judge me!)

 

Love and Tolerance is a mantra overblown to proportion. It literally subdues the brony subculture into generalizing its fans and thus stereotypes more easily labeled as a result...

 

Love and Tolerance should be a universal saying no matter what the group or individual, and it should at least not subjected to only bronies. It is infuriating to think when some brony gets annoyed at some ignorance directly coming from another person and they are ridiculed for not "living up to the mantra", so to speak.

[Ezynell 2,037]

Alright you just completly owned the OP of this thread. I have nothing else to see in this world.

 

Thanks for the compliment, but I just proved wrong one of his contentions. I actually agree a little bit with his overall idea. I've read some of his other posts and he has been receiving way more angered disapproval then he deserves and has been defending himself at least decently given what he's had to defend himself against. I would like to write a big wall of text on the subject like many others have, but I'm pretty tired right now. Regardless, I commend the Original Poster for his effort on putting an unpopular opinion out there in a non-offensive way and sticking with it.

 

Go ahead, spam images. It just shows that you have little to contribute to this conversation. And no, I'm not trolling. Just offering a fresh perspective on matters.

 

Sorry to seem like spamming images. I actually agree to some of your points and agree slightly to your entire debate. I didn't mean to say "still not as popular as my little pony" so bluntly either, but now that I relooked over my post, I can see how it could look like spam. I was just trying to show some other cartoon shows that had become memes thrown everywhere but not contributed to forming a fanbase around that cartoon. I do commend you on defending your stance over the unpopular opinion you stated in your original post and appreciate your work.

[SBaby 660]

Rabid fanbase? No, that's the Sonic fanbase. Those people (especially the Sega Sonic fanatics) will chew you up and spit you out if you're new. They do not accept ANY criticism of their stuff. The SatAM fanbase and a few Tails boards are probably the nicest out of these groups. But everyone else, watch out.

 

And then there's the Pokemon fanbase, which takes itself more seriously than ANY fanbase I've ever seen on the internet (more seriously than any fanbase really should). How serious? So serious that there are people that have spent years coming up with formulas to crack every algorithm in the games. It's to the point of being creepy.

 

So in comparison, we're about as tame as fanbases get.

 

And I'm not trying to claim that FiM is the best cartoon ever made. Because that's unrealistic. It's just that FiM is the first time I've legitimately given a crap about anything story-related in a My Little Pony cartoon.

Edited April 21, 2012 by SBaby

[Ezynell 2,037]

Rabid fanbase? No, that's the Sonic fanbase. Those people (especially the Sega Sonic fanatics) will chew you up and spit you out if you're new. They do not accept ANY criticism of their stuff.

 

And then there's the Pokemon fanbase, which takes itself more seriously than ANY fanbase I've ever seen on the internet (more seriously than any fanbase really should). How serious? So serious that there are people that have spent years coming up with formulas to crack every algorithm in the games.

 

So in comparison, we're about as tame as fanbases get.

 

And I'm not trying to claim that FiM is the best cartoon ever made. Because that's unrealistic. It's just that FiM is the first time I've legitimately given a crap about anything story-related in a My Little Pony cartoon.

 

Lets not get over critical though. I've been a long term pokemon fan, and most the algorithms gotten from there are cracked as jokes similar to the "Pony Physics Presentation" deal. There have been a lot of the similar types of things in the brony fanbase, and the seriousness of a few members can't possible represent the "Rabidness" of a fanbase. Realistically, it's more the radical and spastic then the serious that lead to a fanbase becoming rabid primarily.

[MVC NVMXD JVRXD 2,406]

C'mon guys. Don't say something you'll regret. Personally, it's my belief that mlp is not an overrated cartoon. I realize that many people join because of the fanbase, but you also have to remember all the, for lack of a better word, shit the community goes through, such as bullying and stuff like that. Some of that stuff 'weeds' out the 'sheep' of the fanbase (people who join to be 'cool' or whatever). In some ways, it is overrated and just for the fanbase, but I believe that a lot of the fans truly like the show for what it is.

 

Now you guys can get back to your debates.

[Comet Tail 808]

I apologize for not responding to everyone's posts concerning my thoughts on the matter. For some reason, this site scrolls slowly on Google Chrome.

 

I am not denying that MLP: FiM is a good cartoon. It is an excellent cartoon, and I appreciate it very heavily. However, the rabid fanbase gives most people the impression that MLP: FiM is a much better show than it actually is. For example, it is rare to see the fanbase criticizing general aspects of the cartoon or even bothering to give MLP: FiM the critical eye it deserves in addition to the praise it also deserves. You see people prancing around the Internet declaring this show as if it were the Book of Revelation come true.

 

At the end of the day, it's a bit of children's entertainment. Bronies overrate the cartoon to the point where MLP: FiM is not simply a children's show - it's a lifestyle to them. For example, how many fangames do you see for Avatar: The Last Airbender? How many fan conventions are there for Downton Abbey? These things barely exist for other franchises, but they exist for MLP, because of highly dedicated fans who believe that the show transcends its original purpose, i.e., a piece of entertainment.

 

Okay, in the sense of objective analysis of elements such as characterization, etc. etc., then objectively, it is overrated.

 

But that's ridiculous. Objectively analyzing the traits of any type of art is like analyzing an airplane design, based purely on how it rolls along when it taxis to the runway, and completely ignoring how it flies.

 

This is an art. It's about emotional response. What you're saying is that the emotional response is stronger than it should be, but by who's definition should it be less? Maybe from an objective analysis, it doesn't live up to the emotional response it's gotten, but like I said, an objective analysis is inadequate.

 

If it fails your objective analysis, then you need to fix your formula for what makes a show good, because it's gotten a great emotional response, which is the true purpose of an art. It must be good. Of course, not everyone will agree, but to the fanbase, it is. Unless you're talking about the fake who like it just out of irony or whatever.

 

Speak for yourself, but I actually like the show as much as I put on about it.

Edited April 21, 2012 by EASA - Matt

[SBaby 660]

Lets not get over critical though. I've been a long term pokemon fan, and most the algorithms gotten from there are cracked as jokes similar to the "Pony Physics Presentation" deal. There have been a lot of the similar types of things in the brony fanbase, and the seriousness of a few members can't possible represent the "Rabidness" of a fanbase. Realistically, it's more the radical and spastic then the serious that lead to a fanbase becoming rabid primarily.

 

That's not the kind of algorithms I was talking about. I meant game percentages, formulas and battle algorithms. I just meant that it's a little disturbing how seriously people on some of those sites take Pokemon.

 

But I was just using it as a reference to illustrate that the FiM fanbase is one of the most laid back fanbases out there.

[Ezynell 2,037]

That's not the kind of algorithms I was talking about. I meant game percentages, formulas and battle algorithms. I just meant that it's a little disturbing how seriously people on some of those sites take Pokemon.

 

But I was just using it as a reference to illustrate that the FiM fanbase is one of the most laid back fanbases out there.

 

I'll agree on that, but the Pokemon fanbase is one of the, if not the biggest fanbase. Things like that are pretty inevitable in one that large.

[MachineGunLola 408]

Um, Lauren did not create Powerpuff Girls.

Her husband did.

 

 

And I didn't even want to watch MLP at first, I thought it was lame, and for kids only, but once I actually took the time to watch it, I loved it. I don't think it's the best show, but it's good.

And not overrated either, people just like it. Everyone is like this on the internet. Everything is "overrated" and has huge fanbases and is made into memes.

That's just how the internet is. :/

[Feather Spiral 1,892]

Go ahead, spam images. It just shows that you have little to contribute to this conversation.

Actually, following the "a picture is worth a thousand words" principle, images can be used to effectively get a point across. So, unless it has a caption that could've been typed in plain text, it doesn't imply a lack of argument.

 

I can personally claim to have good taste without exaggerating. I have stopped watching several cartoons/shows when they became too repetitive or stereotyped or whatever.

And when I watch Friendship is Magic, NCIS, Fringe; play Okami, listen to Renard, read Star Trek, look at Rick Griffin's stuff (like Housepets!)... believe me, it's not because of their fanbases. In fact, if NCIS or Fringe or Rick Griffin have become memes, someone should tell me because I have no idea (even though I know NCIS is rather popular, but is it enough to be considered a meme?). Things like Wolf's Rain or Yoko Kanno even get little to no attention, because the art industries consider them talented enough not to need advertising.

 

Besides, I heard from an actual gamer that the Final Fantasy series (if I recall correctly) once had spread as quickly as bronydom recently has. Enough to be called "cancer" by cynics, just as the MLP fandom is considered now.

Yet, when I look at them, the only creativity I see is found in items (mostly weapons). The stories that I've seen are rather bland, or at least similar to other Fantasy games. If you know anything better than that, show me, I'd be more than willing to change my mind.

 

There are plenty of franchises out there that get more attention from fans than efforts from the makers. The new MLP generation, I assure you, is not one of those.

Edited April 21, 2012 by Feather Spiral

[cuteycindyhoney 13,307]

Somepony should start the "My Little Pony is JUST RIGHT!" thread!

[prettycool 65]

Somepony should start the "My Little Pony is JUST RIGHT!" thread!

 

THIS^^^^^^^^^

[Feather Spiral 1,892]

You know, jokes aside, Cindy raises an interesting point.

A lot of people tend to mix up "moderation" and "indecision", not just about MLP but on a lot of subjects. So they decide to forge an opinion (more often than not prejudiced and extreme) and, no matter how much new information they're given, refuse to change their minds.

 

Can't help but feel I'm straying off-topic a little.

Edited April 22, 2012 by Feather Spiral

[Pinkazoid 3,493]

Lauren didn't make the powerpuff girls... she worked on it...... and if I'm correct her husband was the one to make the show....

 

But MLP has that cute, ironic self that made itself popular, honestly, I fall in love with many shows, I loved the powerpuff girls, and many other shows, but none, got me hooked up like MLP, and like I probably have said before, I didn't find the episodes in the internet until about 3 months after I watched the first show, and by the time I found them in the internet, I had already watched all the episodes from season 1 (season 2 hadn't started yet) and I always watched the episodes at 7 in the morning and 5 in the afternoon, after school, the bronies or the community didn't make me fall in love with the show, the show itself did, it's not overrated, maybe a little, by the community, but if many people that aren't bronies can get hooked up on the show, and even some anti-bronies can too.... then how is it over rated? the only show I'll ever like more than MLP, isn't even aired no more, I can't say it was better than MLP, I say that it was my favorite show as a kid, and it'll always be it, and it's Animaniacs (with a little help from Freakazoid ma'h username, hint hint)

[CheeryLee 8]

I still enjoy the program thought