Fragile

[Makazi 317]

Song with lyrics this time! This one's based off a particular scene from a particular fanfiction. I don't really expect anyone to know which one (though super brohoof if you do), but I hope you enjoy regardless.

 

 

Lyrics:

Come here little thing, I have so many things I wish to speak to you about

Your eyes they are emerald and fair, like your wings and your hair

I don't think I've explained, I'm here from another place to bring your world down

 

Come here little thing, you're beautiful

I have some questions to ask, about where your people are hiding

and what lies beyond that glass

I don't think I've explained, I'll do whatever it takes, even if your barriers break

Gazing softly on as everything falls apart

You can trust me, I swear

I won't hurt you, I swear

When you're staring into nothing with nothing left to give except your broken dreams and promises, well at least we'll say I tried

[Stormghost 136]

Fragile, it's not my favorite word. 

[Makazi 317]

Fragile, it's not my favorite word. 

 

Hah, not mine either ^^ but it was the word used in the fanfiction, so I figured it would be apt. Honestly, the word just makes me think of something like a box filled with fine china that says 'fragile, handle with care' xD

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,825]

Whoa...careful with those vocals...they're flat and a bit nasal. 

 

Also, this song could be a lot longer. I can help you extend it out. 

 

And one more thing, you gotta start involving more chords in there besides the I and the IV

[Makazi 317]

Whoa...careful with those vocals...they're flat and a bit nasal. 

 

Also, this song could be a lot longer. I can help you extend it out. 

 

And one more thing, you gotta start involving more chords in there besides the I and the IV

 

I'm aware of the rigidity of the chords, as well as the flat and nasal nature of my vocals. I left it as is because I was happy with it. If I may make an elucidation here, I'd like to say that I'm not wholly appreciative of your criticism. That may sound contradictory to what I said yesterday, and I suppose it is; I've had more time to think about it since then. You see, I feel as if you're almost trying to tell me what to do. This is not in itself a bad thing if you're offering simple suggestions hither and thither, but I almost get the feeling that you're, in a way, trying to control my music. Take the last song you commented on for example; it's a repetitive song by nature, and I designed it that way. I didn't care that it was repetitive because I enjoyed making it, and I enjoyed listening to it. But you commented, telling me every single possible thing under the sun I could have done. I know I could have done so much more; I didn't by choice, however. 

 

I think the audacious thing in all of that was when I told you my personal criteria for making a song was just for it to sound good to me, you told me what sounds good to me might not sound good to others, when in reality other people had commented saying they liked it, and I liked it, myself; the latter point there is of most importance, as I'm the song-writer, and if it sounds good to me, then that's all that should matter. I've never cared what I was doing technically so long as the music worked for me emotionally. Creatures of the Night is about energy, and Fragile is meant to be depressing. When I write a song, it's about what I'm feeling at the time; not about how technically complex I could make it and worrying about whether or not it's too simple. With me, it's just about emotion. You're entitled to your opinion, you can think my music isn't complex enough and subsequently sucks, whatever. But don't belittle my music when it doesn't live up to your critera--and most importantly, don't tell me what to do with my own creations. They're my songs; not yours. Honestly, it's that type of overt pedanticism that makes me not even want to bother with music. And isn't that anathema to the whole creative process? For a person to come along and say, hey, you're not doing this my way, so you're not doing it right. That's really, really upsetting.

 

 

 

Anyways, sorry. I'm aware there's a fair bit of animosity in what I just said; there's really no concealing that fact. I will say, however, that I don't dislike you as a pony and I don't wish there to be any hostility between us. I just get the impression that you're trying to control what I do with my music, and I really don't appreciate that and would prefer it if you didn't, if that's okay.

 

Further apologies if you are simply trying to help, but based on your critique of Creatures of the Night, I don't get that impression.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Makazi

[Sunset's Shimmer 394]

Holy horseapples!

 

Wow! The I immediately thought of the band U2 when I heard your voice, if you haven't heard of the band, look it up, you have very similar tone and quality that Bono has.

 

Keep it up, that was fantastic!

 

(In response to ponies that are critical of your art: Different people have different style voices, and while some vocal styles would be ill suited for a certain genres of music, I believe your vocal quality is a very rare type that isn't seen that often.)

[Makazi 317]

Holy horseapples!

 

Wow! The I immediately thought of the band U2 when I heard your voice, if you haven't heard of the band, look it up, you have very similar tone and quality that Bono has.

 

Keep it up, that was fantastic!

 

(In response to ponies that are critical of your art: Different people have different style voices, and while some vocal styles would be ill suited for a certain genres of music, I believe your vocal quality is a very rare type that isn't seen that often.)

 

U2 is great, and thank you for both your comment and your support. ^^ Have you heard Moment of Surrender by them? That one's probably my favourite.

[Sunset's Shimmer 394]

U2 is great, and thank you for both your comment and your support. ^^ Have you heard Moment of Surrender by them? That one's probably my favourite.

I haven't. I'll look it up soon.

 

I'm curious to know if you can do a rock vocals, like he does in some of his songs?

 

This is the comparison I had thought of listening to both a 2nd time through:

 

U2- With or Without you

Starting at 0:27

 

Makazi- Fragile

Starting at 0:38

Edited August 18, 2015 by Shimmerlicious

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,825]

 

I'm aware of the rigidity of the chords, as well as the flat and nasal nature of my vocals. I left it as is because I was happy with it. If I may make an elucidation here, I'd like to say that I'm not wholly appreciative of your criticism. That may sound contradictory to what I said yesterday, and I suppose it is; I've had more time to think about it since then. You see, I feel as if you're almost trying to tell me what to do. This is not in itself a bad thing if you're offering simple suggestions hither and thither, but I almost get the feeling that you're, in a way, trying to control my music. Take the last song you commented on for example; it's a repetitive song by nature, and I designed it that way. I didn't care that it was repetitive because I enjoyed making it, and I enjoyed listening to it. But you commented, telling me every single possible thing under the sun I could have done. I know I could have done so much more; I didn't by choice, however. 

 

I think the audacious thing in all of that was when I told you my personal criteria for making a song was just for it to sound good to me, you told me what sounds good to me might not sound good to others, when in reality other people had commented saying they liked it, and I liked it, myself; the latter point there is of most importance, as I'm the song-writer, and if it sounds good to me, then that's all that should matter. I've never cared what I was doing technically so long as the music worked for me emotionally. Creatures of the Night is about energy, and Fragile is meant to be depressing. When I write a song, it's about what I'm feeling at the time; not about how technically complex I could make it and worrying about whether or not it's too simple. With me, it's just about emotion. You're entitled to your opinion, you can think my music isn't complex enough and subsequently sucks, whatever. But don't belittle my music when it doesn't live up to your critera--and most importantly, don't tell me what to do with my own creations. They're my songs; not yours. Honestly, it's that type of overt pedanticism that makes me not even want to bother with music. And isn't that anathema to the whole creative process? For a person to come along and say, hey, you're not doing this my way, so you're not doing it right. That's really, really upsetting.

 

 

 

Anyways, sorry. I'm aware there's a fair bit of animosity in what I just said; there's really no concealing that fact. I will say, however, that I don't dislike you as a pony and I don't wish there to be any hostility between us. I just get the impression that you're trying to control what I do with my music, and I really don't appreciate that and would prefer it if you didn't, if that's okay.

 

Further apologies if you are simply trying to help, but based on your critique of Creatures of the Night, I don't get that impression.

 

 

Sorry that it may seem like I'm controlling when I critique. But really, it's all honesty and what I really hear. They're mere suggestions and I know that people don't have to agree with them. 

[Makazi 317]

Sorry that it may seem like I'm controlling when I critique. But really, it's all honesty and what I really hear. They're mere suggestions and I know that people don't have to agree with them. 

 

It's alright, I know you meant nothing by it. ^^ I just felt really beat down after you basically tore creatures apart and gave it such a low rating because I didn't do X, Y, or Z. Like I said, criticism isn't really a problem--but what you were doing came off to me as nitpicking, and that rubs me the wrong way.

I haven't. I'll look it up soon.

 

I'm curious to know if you can do a rock vocals, like he does in some of his songs?

 

This is the comparison I had thought of listening to both a 2nd time through:

 

U2- With or Without you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJZMTcyqsYk

Starting at 0:27

 

Makazi- Fragile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G4QfphceL0

Starting at 0:38

 

Can I do rock vocals? It really depends on the song. ^^ Of course, nothing really stops me from attempting a song if I think I can do it, even if it's not best suited for my vocal range.

Edited August 18, 2015 by Makazi

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,825]

 

 

It's alright, I know you meant nothing by it. ^^ I just felt really beat down after you basically tore creatures apart and gave it such a low rating because I didn't do X, Y, or Z. Like I said, criticism isn't really a problem--but what you were doing came off to me as nitpicking, and that rubs me the wrong way.

 

I'm sorry about if the rating felt hurt. But...I'm just that technical person. By no means do I mean to hurt people when I review/critique their music.  

[Makazi 317]

I'm sorry about if the rating felt hurt. But...I'm just that technical person. By no means do I mean to hurt people when I review/critique their music.  

 

Hey, and I'm sorry about snapping at you the other day. ^^ I do realise you were just trying to help, but the negative rating did hurt, as I had worked on that song for months and was elated when I finally finished it. I do agree it's fairly repetitive, but as aforementioned, that was the intent. The idea was like a piece of video-game music that would be played during a stage, something that would both be catchy in a way, but repetitive so it wouldn't be too distracting.  As for Fragile, yes, it's a tad short and repetitive, the latter of which can be attributed to the former, and my voice is flat. My voice has always had such a quality, but it is my voice and I have no issues with it ^^ Regarding the length, it's just because with songs like this I tend to say what I wish to say and nothing more; if I write a few verses and I decide it gets the message across, then chances are I won't expand upon it or add anything else--this leads to short songs, but in my eyes that's not really a problem.

 

Just so you know, I don't mind if you critique my songs so long as you use more layman-like terminology, or express it via notes (I will be able to understand if you say something like "You could have hit an F instead of a G sharp at this point in the song."). I just think the low rating coupled with a long and detailed post which appeared to be an attempt at controlling what I do with my music struck me the wrong way. I don't mind suggestions, but the impression I got was that you were treating your critique as de facto. Also, I have a new song titled "Our Hapless Nadir" posted here on the forums; I'd like, so long as you keep in mind what I've said and prevent your critique from seeming too pedantic, if you could give it a listen and possibly offer some feedback on it. There are some flaws with it, such as being a bit repetitive towards the beginning, and perhaps changing a little too much and abruptly towards the end, but I'd like a second opinion. If you don't mind, that is. ^^ 

 

Also, again, I apologise for my earlier behavior.

Edited August 24, 2015 by Makazi

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,825]

Hey, and I'm sorry about snapping at you the other day. ^^ I do realise you were just trying to help, but the negative rating did hurt, as I had worked on that song for months and was elated when I finally finished it. I do agree it's fairly repetitive, but as aforementioned, that was the intent. The idea was like a piece of video-game music that would be played during a stage, something that would both be catchy in a way, but repetitive so it wouldn't be too distracting.  As for Fragile, yes, it's a tad short and repetitive, the latter of which can be attributed to the former, and my voice is flat. My voice has always had such a quality, but it is my voice and I have no issues with it ^^ Regarding the length, it's just because with songs like this I tend to say what I wish to say and nothing more; if I write a few verses and I decide it gets the message across, then chances are I won't expand upon it or add anything else--this leads to short songs, but in my eyes that's not really a problem.

 

Just so you know, I don't mind if you critique my songs so long as you use more layman-like terminology, or express it via notes (I will be able to understand if you say something like "You could have hit an F instead of a G sharp at this point in the song."). I just think the low rating coupled with a long and detailed post which appeared to be an attempt at controlling what I do with my music struck me the wrong way. I don't mind suggestions, but the impression I got was that you were treating your critique as de facto. Also, I have a new song titled "Our Hapless Nadir" posted here on the forums; I'd like, so long as you keep in mind what I've said and prevent your critique from seeming too pedantic, if you could give it a listen and possibly offer some feedback on it. There are some flaws with it, such as being a bit repetitive towards the beginning, and perhaps changing a little too much and abruptly towards the end, but I'd like a second opinion. If you don't mind, that is. ^^ 

 

Also, again, I apologise for my earlier behavior.

 

Apology accepted. I sometimes leave off the rating because it just becomes a little too much when I have a lot of things I hear that I don't agree with. 

 

But to be honest...I feel that with the rise of electronic music and the use of loops, it has just put a damper on people's potential when it comes to making music. You get what I'm saying right?

[Makazi 317]

Apology accepted. I sometimes leave off the rating because it just becomes a little too much when I have a lot of things I hear that I don't agree with. 

 

But to be honest...I feel that with the rise of electronic music and the use of loops, it has just put a damper on people's potential when it comes to making music. You get what I'm saying right?

 

Yeah, I completely do. ^^ Honestly, too much repetition in music can bother me quite a bit. Many years ago I refused to listen to EDM because I felt like it all sounded the same; and lots of it does! but eventually I came to grips with the fact that there's music like that out there, and there probably always will be. These days I don't care as much, and I'll even write repetitive electronic stuff if it's what I'm feeling like at the time; there's a time and place for everything, as they say. I'm the type of person that can listen to something like "The Planets" by Holst, and then once I'm done with that I can go straight to listening to a modern dance track. I enjoy all sorts of music, and while I do agree that some people might be limited by creating such music, at the same time I don't see anything intrinsically wrong with it; if they're making music that they want to make, then that's good enough for me. But I totally get what you're saying. ^^