ManaMinori 4,146 October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Back in "The Crystal Empire", it was said that hatred and fear bred dark magic. So what do you guys think was thought by both Sunbutt and Twilight when they used dark magic in this two partner (when Sunbutt magic beamed the hologram, and when Twilight magic beamed Sombra's throne and magic door?) What thoughts do you think caused them hatred and/or fear, to be able to use dark magic? Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1539 47 October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Twilight doesn't seem like a hateful pony. But I suppose she could have used her fear of failure, which had been the primary concern for her during those two episodes.Celestia, on the other hand, is a bit harder to read. Maybe she used her hatred/fear of doing stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnylvr 185 October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Major threats to Equestria and the safety of its population--definitely for Celestia, likely for Twilight. Twilight might also have hated/feared the destruction of books/knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Seashell 206 October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 I think Twilight's fear is failing Celestia.And l think Celestia's fear is the destruction of Equestria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Celestia's fear and hatred comes from thousands of years of all the villains she had to fight and from the fear of losing her subjects and loved ones. Twilight's fear comes from Spike accidentally misplacing a pen quill in the wrong position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Quesadillas.Thousands and thousands of quesadillas. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I think losing her friends and failing Equestria would be Twilight's greatest fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,960 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Celestia hates the writers for pretty understandable reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,982 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 At this point, I would not be surprised if both Celestia and Twilight fear Chrysalis beyond belief. XD I mean, she was able to abduct all of the most powerful ponies without trying. Sure, she had an army, but she is just so creepy and imprisons ponies. She also has more power than Celestia which we already seen. She is beastly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeltor23 704 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I think any pony can use dark magic; I interpret Celestia's words in a way saying that hatred and fear make it stronger, but we don't necessarily need them to use it at a low level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Hasn't this been answered Canonically anyways in The crystal empire? When twilight ran into Sombra's door, which showed twilight's greatest fear, it was dissapointing/failing celestia with her disowning her as a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Hasn't this been answered Canonically anyways in The crystal empire? When twilight ran into Sombra's door, which showed twilight's greatest fear, it was dissapointing/failing celestia with her disowning her as a student. There's one teeny tiny problem about that. Twilight isn't Celestia's student anymore. So what does she fear now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 There's one teeny tiny problem about that. Twilight isn't Celestia's student anymore. So what does she fear now? that doesn't mean she's stopped having a fear of dissapointing celestia (just look at no second prances for example): Most probably the Fear would be exactly the same except that celestia would be disowning her as a princess instead of a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 that doesn't mean she's stopped having a fear of dissapointing celestia (just look at no second prances for example): Most probably the Fear would be exactly the same except that celestia would be disowning her as a princess instead of a student. I think she would have more fears than that. After all, we did learn that she's afraid of quesadillas (even if it was a joke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I think she would have more fears than that. After all, we did learn that she's afraid of quesadillas (even if it was a joke). She's still fundamentally the same pony she was in S3, and she's never truly gotten over her obsession with Celestia; I see no reason to think that her deepest insecurities and fears have changed much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 She's still fundamentally the same pony she was in S3, and she's never truly gotten over her obsession with Celestia; I see no reason to think that her deepest insecurities and fears have changed much. I'm still going by with what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMinori 4,146 October 23, 2016 Author Share October 23, 2016 There's one teeny tiny problem about that. Twilight isn't Celestia's student anymore. So what does she fear now?in MNC when Twilight asked if becoming an alicorn meant no longer being Sunbutt's student, she didn't say no, just "not in the same was as before", so I take that to mean that Twilight is still her student Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavens-champion 1,905 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 in MNC when Twilight asked if becoming an alicorn meant no longer being Sunbutt's student, she didn't say no, just "not in the same was as before", so I take that to mean that Twilight is still her student Right. But still, I'm pretty sure she would be afraid of losing her friends too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,471 October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Quesadillas. Thousands and thousands of quesadillas. Oh yeah, the malevolent quesadillas from hell . Well, it's pretty evident that Twi fears failure as shown previously. I don't see her as hating anyone however (except for Chrysalis, she attacked her family directly ) . Celly is another case. Who knows what that over 1000 years have seen . Her fears might go beyond than simply getting late to an appointment. About hate, I don;t see her easily hating someone, but I'm sure she's not free of it either. People who are hard to feel hate are to be wary, because if you earn their hate, beware Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Well, it's pretty evident that Twi fears failure as shown previously. I don't see her as hating anyone however Obviously she has a deep seated hatred for spike though But yeah, I agree with you, its hard to see Twilight hating anyone really. Even Tirek or chrysalis I have a hard time seeing twilight "hating" them. Mainly due to the fact that the villains always LOST so its not like they ever got away with anything or did anything really irrevocable on par with something like how the green goblin can always say that he killed Gwen with spiderman or whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss 6,237 October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Celestia - She hates her sister. Twilight - She hates Spike Celestia - Fears the sun getting hungry and eating her so it would like the sun eating the thing that controls the sun making the sun have no purpose. Twilight - Starlight and Spike's loud snoring put together causing her to have a bad night that results in no sleep making her unproductive throughout the day and putting her off schedule for the future which she already planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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