gaming Switch third party support.

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I don’t see how the Switch’s 3rd party support is any better than the Wii U’s. EA only announced 1 game coming for the console, FIFA 19. It's also not getting KH3 or RDR2. All it's really getting is ports of last-gen games.

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Wii U had better third party support in all honesty.  I'm sure the Switch will pick up steam in the next few years though, even if the ports need to look severely downgraded to accommodate the extremely anemic hardware. At the end of the day, third party developers want to know their games have a good chance at selling to a large consumer base, which the Wii U sadly lacked. Switch has already outsold the Wii U's lifetime sales one year after it released, so I see no reason third parties will hold out for much longer.

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>EA shows shitty support like they do for all Nintendo consoles
>Blatantly ignores the Japanese and indie devs supporting it
>Blatantly ignores the fact that the Switch is getting games no other Nintendo consoles have gotten before
>Blatantly ignores the fact that it has Bethesda games whom have never supported Nintendo platforms before(and have come out and said they're happy with their game's sales)

I'm not saying the Switch's 3rd party support is great or anything, it's still an uphill battle and there's loads of improvement, but lets not start shouting retarded bollocks like the Wii U having better 3rd party support

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4 minutes ago, Whomps said:

>EA shows shitty support like they do for all Nintendo consoles
>Blatantly ignores the Japanese and indie devs supporting it
>Blatantly ignores the fact that the Switch is getting games no other Nintendo consoles have gotten before
>Blatantly ignores the fact that it has Bethesda games whom have never supported Nintendo platforms before(and have come out and said they're happy with their game's sales)

I'm not saying the Switch's 3rd party support is great or anything, it's still an uphill battle and there's loads of improvement, but lets not start shouting retarded bollocks like the Wii U having better 3rd party support

Having a bunch of indie games that nobody besides hipsters care about doesn't mean the Switch has better 3rd party support than the Wii U.

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1 minute ago, VG_Addict said:

Having a bunch of indie games that nobody besides hipsters care about doesn't mean the Switch has better 3rd party support than the Wii U.

>implying indie game's don't have a big market
>implying Wii U had more indie games

Believe it or not, having indie game support is important, especially when a lot of them have been most successful on the Switch

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5 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

Having a bunch of indie games that nobody besides hipsters care about doesn't mean the Switch has better 3rd party support than the Wii U.

You posted this same shit on derpibooru and it's no less wrong here.

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4 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

Having a bunch of indie games that nobody besides hipsters care about doesn't mean the Switch has better 3rd party support than the Wii U.

Indie games not appealing to you personally doesn't translate to some impossibly dumb thing to say like "the Wii U had better third party support than the Switch".

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10 minutes ago, Whomps said:

>implying indie game's don't have a big market
>implying Wii U had more indie games

Believe it or not, having indie game support is important, especially when a lot of them have been most successful on the Switch

I don't think people will buy a Switch JUST to play indie games. 

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37 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

I don’t see how the Switch’s 3rd party support is any better than the Wii U’s.

For starters games like Doom, Skyrim, etc actually came to the Switch. These more "hardcore" titles that previously passed on Nintendo. Bethesda in the past also passed on Nintendo entirely. On top of this, the Switch actually ALREADY has a bigger library than the Wii U did at this point (source). Indie games are doing better on the Switch than their steam counterparts as well (source) .

43 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

EA only announced 1 game coming for the console, FIFA 19.

And this is a problem... Why? EA sucks.

43 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

It's also not getting KH3 or RDR2.

Both of those games began production before the Switch was even revealed to developers. So porting to it now so late in development is not that easy, not to mention Rockstar never said they were against porting RDR2 to the Switch and KH creator flat out said he wasn't against a Switch port after they finish the PS4 and Xbox versions either.

13 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

Having a bunch of indie games that nobody besides hipsters care about doesn't mean the Switch has better 3rd party support than the Wii U.

Sorry but a lot of those "hipster" indie games have pretty big followings and are getting a lot of attention such as Outlast 1+2 which made it to the Switch.

The Switch third party support may not be "great" compared to the PS4 or Xbox One, but given the Switch is a little over a year old, the amount of support it has in such a short time is insanely impressive.

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Just now, VG_Addict said:

I don't think people will buy a Switch JUST to play indie games. 

Of course, everyone buys Nintendo console for Nintendo games, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for Indie games

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Dark Souls also made it to the Switch, a series that was previously considered "too hardcore for a kiddie console like Nintendo." On top of this, there is a good chance Fallout 4 will make it to the Switch and the newly announced Fallout 76. Also there are many titles that are actually doing insanely well on the Switch despite it having such a small install base. LA Noire for example had 20% of sales on Switch in the UK alone, which is impressive for a console that doesn't even hold 20% of the marketshare.

Square Enix is already releasing exclusive games for it such as Octopath Traveler and has opened a new studio exclusively for switch game development.

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3 minutes ago, Key Sharkz said:

Dark Souls also made it to the Switch, a series that was previously considered "too hardcore for a kiddie console like Nintendo." On top of this, there is a good chance Fallout 4 will make it to the Switch and the newly announced Fallout 76. Also there are many titles that are actually doing insanely well on the Switch despite it having such a small install base. LA Noire for example had 20% of sales on Switch in the UK alone, which is impressive for a console that doesn't even hold 20% of the marketshare.

Square Enix is already releasing exclusive games for it such as Octopath Traveler and has opened a new studio exclusively for switch game development.

Apparently the Switch version in the UK outsold the Xbox One version

Take that for what you want, but considering UK is usually pretty anit-Nintendo it's pretty impressive

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22 minutes ago, Key Sharkz said:

Dark Souls also made it to the Switch, a series that was previously considered "too hardcore for a kiddie console like Nintendo." On top of this, there is a good chance Fallout 4 will make it to the Switch and the newly announced Fallout 76. Also there are many titles that are actually doing insanely well on the Switch despite it having such a small install base. LA Noire for example had 20% of sales on Switch in the UK alone, which is impressive for a console that doesn't even hold 20% of the marketshare.

Square Enix is already releasing exclusive games for it such as Octopath Traveler and has opened a new studio exclusively for switch game development.

What makes you say Switch will get Fallout 4 and 76?

 

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5 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

What makes you say Switch will get Fallout 4 and 76?

 

It got Skyrim. 

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Just now, Celli said:

It got Skyrim. 

Skyrim is a last-gen game. 

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3 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

What makes you say Switch will get Fallout 4 and 76?

 

Bethesda support for the system has skyrocketed. Bethesda didn't just release a single game, they released pretty much 3 of their best selling games on the system and show continued interest in the system. It would be odd if that support suddenly just dropped off now for no reason. I'd say the odds are good that it could happen if not now then down the road.

Let's also not forget that the Switch still has strong support from companies like Square Enix who are already interested in porting FFXV to it, and have said they are not against bringing KH3 to it. They also are making Octopath Traveler and exclusive to the Switch. I am Setsuna came to the Switch as did Lost Sphere. So Square Enix has already given the Switch a ton of support, and that's a major third party dev right there.

Rockstar bringing LA Noire was a big deal because the game not only sold well on the Switch but this was the first game they brought since Chinatown Wars which was back in the DS days.

Dark Souls made it to the Switch as well, and that's a big deal. Now there is talk of Tales of Vesperia one of the most beloved JRPGs on the Xbox 360 getting remastered for the Switch. That's a huge win for third party there.

The Switch third party support is insanely good for only 1.5 years of life in the console.

Just now, VG_Addict said:

Skyrim is a last-gen game. 

It also got Wolf 2 and Doom 2016.

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1 minute ago, VG_Addict said:

Skyrim is a last-gen game. 

Wrong.

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2 minutes ago, Key Sharkz said:

Bethesda support for the system has skyrocketed. Bethesda didn't just release a single game, they released pretty much 3 of their best selling games on the system and show continued interest in the system. It would be odd if that support suddenly just dropped off now for no reason. I'd say the odds are good that it could happen if not now then down the road.

Let's also not forget that the Switch still has strong support from companies like Square Enix who are already interested in porting FFXV to it, and have said they are not against bringing KH3 to it. They also are making Octopath Traveler and exclusive to the Switch. I am Setsuna came to the Switch as did Lost Sphere. So Square Enix has already given the Switch a ton of support, and that's a major third party dev right there.

Rockstar bringing LA Noire was a big deal because the game not only sold well on the Switch but this was the first game they brought since Chinatown Wars which was back in the DS days.

Dark Souls made it to the Switch as well, and that's a big deal. Now there is talk of Tales of Vesperia one of the most beloved JRPGs on the Xbox 360 getting remastered for the Switch. That's a huge win for third party there.

The Switch third party support is insanely good for only 1.5 years of life in the console.

It also got Wolf 2 and Doom 2016.

A leak also hinted that DBZ Fighters and Fortnite are coming to the Switch. 

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Just now, VG_Addict said:

A leak also hinted that DBZ Fighters and Fortnite are coming to the Switch. 

Yup!

So it's pretty clear that support is growing not shrinking. I think the issue some people have, yourself included is there aren't enough games that you personally want to play so it feels like support is small, but trust me, it's bigger than you realize.

Like if you have no other consoles to play games there are already a ton of great games to enjoy on the Switch which you'll get plenty of enjoyment out of:

• Breath of the Wild
• Mario+Rabbids
• Mario Odysessy
• Outlast 1+2
• Minecraft
• Resident Evil Revalations 1+2
• Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon
• Octopath Traveler (next month)
• Doom 2016
• Dark Souls Remastered (Soon, it was recently delayed)
• Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

If you don't have a way to play any of these games already the Switch is a great option for most of them. On top of that, if you got the Switch for any of those exclusives then you have the option of getting those multiplats on it too so you have more to play on the go.

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28 minutes ago, VG_Addict said:

Skyrim is a last-gen game. 

Wolfenstein II and Doom are not.

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You guys realize that the Wii U had plenty of Indie games too right? 

The Switch is an abomination as far as I am concerned. A true insult to the long time supporter of Nintendo products. Admittedly, it's a pretty cool handheld, but as a console, the thing just fails in all aspects. If ONLY Nintendo decided to market it exclusively as "an HD gaming handheld you can hook up to your tv; the successor to the 3ds line", then I wouldn't be so quick to hate. But the fact that they went for this "hybrid" bullshit pretty much means all my hopes for a PROPER competent Nintendo gaming console (which can compete hardware-wise with the CURRENT gen of consoles) is now thrown our the window...

I am honestly very jealous of gamers who cherish Sony and Microsoft intellectual properties. Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, Detroit: Become Human, Forza Horizon 3, Quantum Break... <-- THAT is how I wish all my precious Nintendo franchises looked. Imagine a Legend of Zelda game with the gameplay of Breath of the Wild but the graphical quality of Horizon Zero Dawn. Or a Mario game with the lush vibrant detailed environments of Uncharted 4. I'm not saying the games need to have the same art style as those games or the same world design, but the actual polygon count, environmental complexity, level of detail, texture resolution, ambient occlusion, etc, etc. Mario Odyssey and BotW look like super fun games, but WHY must they look like they came out over a decade ago? These games would look at home on an Xbox 360... It's 2018 people! like wtf!?

"Graphics aren't everything" <--- Yeah, I know! That's why I'm so upset here. If I only cared about graphics, I could just go and play all those games I mentioned and be satisfied. The problem is that I like Nintendo games above all else, (most) Sony/ Microsoft games just don't do it for me from a gameplay perspective. Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Kirby, DKC, Metroid, Yoshi's Island <-- these are the type of games I enjoy. But it seems as a long time Nintendo fan who greatly values excellent gameplay AND superb graphics, I am just not allowed to "have my cake and eat it too" >.< Literally every other modern Nintendo gamer I have met is completely dismissive to the Wii, Wii U, Switch, and 3ds' lackluster graphics. It is obscenely frustrating to say the least, but judging by past experience, I imagine this post will also fall upon deaf ears, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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14 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

You guys realize that the Wii U had plenty of Indie games too right? 

The Switch is an abomination as far as I am concerned. A true insult to the long time supporter of Nintendo products. Admittedly, it's a pretty cool handheld, but as a console, the thing just fails in all aspects. If ONLY Nintendo decided to market it exclusively as "an HD gaming handheld you can hook up to your tv; the successor to the 3ds line", then I wouldn't be so quick to hate. But the fact that they went for this "hybrid" bullshit pretty much means all my hopes for a PROPER competent Nintendo gaming console (which can compete hardware-wise with the CURRENT gen of consoles) is now thrown our the window...

I am honestly very jealous of gamers who cherish Sony and Microsoft intellectual properties. Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, Detroit: Become Human, Forza Horizon 3, Quantum Break... <-- THAT is how I wish all my precious Nintendo franchises looked. Imagine a Legend of Zelda game with the gameplay of Breath of the Wild but the graphical quality of Horizon Zero Dawn. Or a Mario game with the lush vibrant detailed environments of Uncharted 4. I'm not saying the games need to have the same art style as those games or the same world design, but the actual polygon count, environmental complexity, level of detail, texture resolution, ambient occlusion, etc, etc. Mario Odyssey and BotW look like super fun games, but WHY must they look like they came out over a decade ago? These games would look at home on an Xbox 360... It's 2018 people! like wtf!?

"Graphics aren't everything" <--- Yeah, I know! That's why I'm so upset here. If I only cared about graphics, I could just go and play all those games I mentioned and be satisfied. The problem is that I like Nintendo games above all else, (most) Sony/ Microsoft games just don't do it for me from a gameplay perspective. Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Kirby, DKC, Metroid, Yoshi's Island <-- these are the type of games I enjoy. But it seems as a long time Nintendo fan who greatly values excellent gameplay AND superb graphics, I am just not allowed to "have my cake and eat it too" >.< Literally every other modern Nintendo gamer I have met is completely dismissive to the Wii, Wii U, Switch, and 3ds' lackluster graphics. It is obscenely frustrating to say the least, but judging by past experience, I imagine this post will also fall upon deaf ears, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>Implying Nintendo games don't look great

Contrary to popular belief, Nintendo actually does care about how their games look. Unlike most devs though, they don't do it with high end super realistic graphics, they do it with good artstyles and design. Also this will probably work in their favor in the long run, as their games will still look great in the future while those more realistic games will end up looking worse either by hitting that uncanny valley or newer games will make them look primative

Also you listed Quantum Break, that TV Show was a steaming pile of crap that only succeeded in looking good but had weak and lackluster gameplay. Nintendo games are almost always known for being incredibly fun and well designed games 

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13 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

You guys realize that the Wii U had plenty of Indie games too right? 

Nobody's denying this, but the Switch is the new "indie darling" because of discoverability on the eShop (sales are 20x higher than Steam!) and the ubiquity of ARM.

 

14 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

If ONLY Nintendo decided to market it exclusively as "an HD gaming handheld you can hook up to your tv; the successor to the 3ds line", then I wouldn't be so quick to hate. But the fact that they went for this "hybrid" bullshit pretty much means all my hopes for a PROPER competent Nintendo gaming console (which can compete hardware-wise with the CURRENT gen of consoles) is now thrown our the window...

So you want a hybrid console, but also don't want one. What?

 

14 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

I am honestly very jealous of gamers who cherish Sony and Microsoft intellectual properties. Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, Detroit: Become Human, Forza Horizon 3, Quantum Break... <-- THAT is how I wish all my precious Nintendo franchises looked. Imagine a Legend of Zelda game with the gameplay of Breath of the Wild but the graphical quality of Horizon Zero Dawn. Or a Mario game with the lush vibrant detailed environments of Uncharted 4. I'm not saying the games need to have the same art style as those games or the same world design, but the actual polygon count, environmental complexity, level of detail, texture resolution, ambient occlusion, etc, etc. Mario Odyssey and BotW look like super fun games, but WHY must they look like they came out over a decade ago? These games would look at home on an Xbox 360... It's 2018 people! like wtf!?

"Graphics aren't everything" <--- Yeah, I know! That's why I'm so upset here. If I only cared about graphics, I could just go and play all those games I mentioned and be satisfied. The problem is that I like Nintendo games above all else, (most) Sony/ Microsoft games just don't do it for me from a gameplay perspective. Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Kirby, DKC, Metroid, Yoshi's Island <-- these are the type of games I enjoy. But it seems as a long time Nintendo fan who greatly values excellent gameplay AND superb graphics, I am just not allowed to "have my cake and eat it too" >.< Literally every other modern Nintendo gamer I have met is completely dismissive to the Wii, Wii U, Switch, and 3ds' lackluster graphics.

 

"I'm not saying I care about graphics, but I care about graphics." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly I'd rather have the unique Mario art style that'll look great 20 years from now instead of the generic "OMG THIS LOOKS AMAZING! (for about 3 years)" action game art style that Uncharted 4 had. Cartoony graphics 👏 age 👏 better 👏 than realistic graphics. There's a reason why The Wind Waker (2003) looks better today than Halo 2 (2004) and that is EXACTLY why.

 

18 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

It is obscenely frustrating to say the least, but judging by past experience, I imagine this post will also fall upon deaf ears, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Actually, it'll fall on people willing to tell you why you're wrong 

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12 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

You guys realize that the Wii U had plenty of Indie games too right? 

The Switch has more and almost every title that has been ported from the Wii U to the Switch has done better on the Switch.

13 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

The Switch is an abomination as far as I am concerned. A true insult to the long time supporter of Nintendo products.

A console that is doing better than the Wii U and already close to surpassing the Gamecube is an insult to Nintendo products?

14 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

t's a pretty cool handheld, but as a console, the thing just fails in all aspects.

"All aspects", that is a bold statement. That literally means that there is nothing the Switch does well.

14 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

But the fact that they went for this "hybrid" bullshit pretty much means all my hopes for a PROPER competent Nintendo gaming console (which can compete hardware-wise with the CURRENT gen of consoles) is now thrown our the window...

Except history has shown us that the most powerful hardware seldom comes out on top. It all boils down to who has the most fun games that people are willing to buy. Also the Switch is already almost about to surpass the Xbox One, so currently... It's already competing pretty well.

15 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

Imagine a Legend of Zelda game with the gameplay of Breath of the Wild but the graphical quality of Horizon Zero Dawn.

While I loved Horizon: Zero Dawn, in actuality hyper realistic graphics are a bad idea for longevity because they age poorly whereas more cartoony graphics and cel shading actually ends up looking better in the long run. Look at Call of Duty 1 and then look at Windwaker, Windwaker still looks good by today's standards whereas Call of Duty 1 does not.

17 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

but the actual polygon count, environmental complexity, level of detail, texture resolution, ambient occlusion, etc, etc.

These things do not inherently make a game more fun to play.

18 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

Mario Odyssey and BotW look like super fun games, but WHY must they look like they came out over a decade ago? These games would look at home on an Xbox 360... It's 2018 people! like wtf!?

Yet they sold well and got great praise from fans and are being called insanely fun. At the end of the day, fun games are what matters.

18 minutes ago, Kai-rouken said:

"Graphics aren't everything" <--- Yeah, I know! That's why I'm so upset here. If I only cared about graphics, I could just go and play all those games I mentioned and be satisfied. The problem is that I like Nintendo games above all else, (most) Sony/ Microsoft games just don't do it for me from a gameplay perspective. Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Mother, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Kirby, DKC, Metroid, Yoshi's Island <-- these are the type of games I enjoy. But it seems as a long time Nintendo fan who greatly values excellent gameplay AND superb graphics, I am just not allowed to "have my cake and eat it too" >.< Literally every other modern Nintendo gamer I have met is completely dismissive to the Wii, Wii U, Switch, and 3ds' lackluster graphics. It is obscenely frustrating to say the least, but judging by past experience, I imagine this post will also fall upon deaf ears, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I have been playing Nintendo since I was a kid. I have the buttons for the SNES tattooed on my body. And I personally think Nintendo knows how to make fun experiences regardless of the horsepower of their systems and that's why they've stuck around so long. I mean can anyone say that Breath of the Wild isn't fun? Sure we can spend a million years thinking of how much better it could be with the graphical fidelity of Uncharted 4, but at the end of the day the game is still great. Switch ports of other games while lower in graphics are still great and looking pretty damn good for being portable.

The Switch clearly knew the market it was trying to hit and it hit it well. Maybe Nintendo knows the business better than you do?

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 @Whomps @ignore pls @Key Sharkz  

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You guys... I want Nintendo games to continue to use the same, aesthetically-pleasing, cartoony art-style. Go look at Inside Out or Zootopia, then go look at Toy Story or A Bug's Life. There is a very, VERY massive difference in the graphical detail. Being cartoony doesn't mean needing to sacrifice on cutting-edge graphical technologies. Just look at the amazingly cartoony, yet still technologically groundbreaking Ps4 Ratchet & Clank Reboot, or Xbone Sea of Thieves for example. Those games certainly ain't photorealistic, BUT they look utterly beautiful from both tech and art perspectives. That is the same treatment I wish Nintendo would implement in their main IPs. But this is sadly just not possible on such weak hardware as the Switch. The Switch being so successful is exactly what I take issue with here because it is leaving consumers like me with the short end of the stick. Since the Switch is a hybrid console, and also financially successful, this means Nintendo has NO REASON to want to release a proper technologically competitive console any time soon. NIntendo is a business, and as a business they will try to expend as little resources as possible while making as much money as possible. That is no doubt wonderful... IF you work at Nintendo or invest in their stocks, but I'm talking in the CONSUMERS' collective interest, not the corporation.