Discord or Flurry heart? Who do you trust more?

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

There's a lot of people that don't trust Discord, but personally I would trust Discord more than I trust Flurry Heart. It's just scary to see a pony that powerful as a baby, and her power will only grow as she gets older. She'll probably be stronger at magic than Twilight by the time that flurry becomes a teen, which is all fine until you consider the fact that she'd essentially be a bored, powerful teen princess with barely much to do. I'm pretty sure that Cadance would rule the Crystal Empire for decades or even centuries to come and Twilight would do the same for Equestria. So that leaves Flurry Heart not doing much and we already have examples of the trouble that is caused powerful entities with nothing better to do (ahem Discord). I just have a feeling that Flurry would be much worse.

As for why I trust Discord more than her, it's just due to age and experience. Sure he can be annoying at times, but he actually knows what he's doing (most of the time), compared to a impulsive alicorn princess with more power as a baby than a lot of adult unicorns. As a teen, she's bound to do much worse. Sure, she might grow out of it, but that's not a certainty. 

 

 

PS. This is just an opinion. None of this is factual since we didn't see Flurry Heart grow up in the show. 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Princess of Hearts ❤️❤️

[ExplosionMare 18,082]

I trust Flurry more cause at least she feels a little guilty after she does something bad. Discord mostly brushes stuff off unless Fluttershy is around.

[Steve Piranha 29,430]

I don’t see why should I distrust this in the first place 

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

6 minutes ago, ExplosionMare said:

I trust Flurry more cause at least she feels a little guilty after she does something bad. Discord mostly brushes stuff off unless Fluttershy is around.

Discord doesn't like to show weakness (although he is a bit more flexible about that around Fluttery). I'm pretty sure that he does care on the inside, but yeah he never shows that. If I was in his situation, I probably wouldn't express my guilt either. He's the Lord of Chaos , so he has an image to keep up. Otherwise no one would respect his power. 

2 minutes ago, Steve Piranha said:

I don’t see why should I distrust this in the first place 

The fact that he wings are abnormally large for a pony her size is already setting off alarm bells in my head 

[Goat-kun 2,528]

Flurry is a baby. She has time to learn. The only way to fix Discord is with a hexproof bullet.

[Sepul-Coloratura 762]

After Season 9, I can't help but question Discord's intelligence alongside with his morality. I hate to do it, but that's what happened.

The No.1 factor that can conjur up spoiled children is bad parenting, and No.2 doesn't even come close whatever it is. And I think Cadance and Shining Armor will be good parents, Flurry Heart will grow up to be a good pony and a princess.

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

13 minutes ago, Sepul-Coloratura said:

After Season 9, I can't help but question Discord's intelligence alongside with his morality. I hate to do it, but that's what happened.

The No.1 factor that can conjur up spoiled children is bad parenting, and No.2 doesn't even come close whatever it is. And I think Cadance and Shining Armor will be good parents, Flurry Heart will grow up to be a good pony and a princess.

Sure, his plan was a bit risky lol, but honestly his morality shouldn't really be questioned. What he did in Season 9, where he released the villains in order to set challenges for the Mane 6 to defeat is no less immoral than what Celestia (the biggest hypocrite in MLP) had done in previous seasons. 

Let me just list them out:

1. Say what you will, Celestia released Nightmare Moon on the off chance that Twilight and her friends would be able to defeat her. What is that flopped, the whole of Equestria would be doomed. There was no contingency plans at all. 

2. Letting the Mane 6 to go defeat Sombra in season 3, when either Luna or herself could have gone themselves or at the very least they could have gone to assist the mane 6. 

3. In season 4, Celestia decided to give all the alicorn magic to twilight and decided the only way of winning is by relying on the fact that Tirek didn't know of Twilight's existence (despite having glass paintings of that in the castle and the fact that Tirek might overhear ponies in Equestria mentioning the fourth alicorn princess)

There's probably way more instances that just those.......

Edited April 11, 2020 by Princess of Hearts ❤️❤️

[Megas 27,761]

I mean McFlurry at least has the justification of being a baby. I’d be impossible for me to even be around Discord without wanting to castrate him

[Moonlight 7,287]

at least flurry has the excuse of being a baby. discord went from being a fun character to being a nuisance that purposely bothers the other characters just for fun...and at this point it's not really enjoyable to watch either 

[Rumpelstiltskin 45]

On 4/11/2020 at 10:21 AM, Princess of Hearts 💛🧡 said:

Sure, his plan was a bit risky lol, but honestly his morality shouldn't really be questioned. What he did in Season 9, where he released the villains in order to set challenges for the Mane 6 to defeat is no less immoral than what Celestia (the biggest hypocrite in MLP) had done in previous seasons. 

Let me just list them out:

1. Say what you will, Celestia released Nightmare Moon on the off chance that Twilight and her friends would be able to defeat her. What is that flopped, the whole of Equestria would be doomed. There was no contingency plans at all. 

2. Letting the Mane 6 to go defeat Sombra in season 3, when either Luna or herself could have gone themselves or at the very least they could have gone to assist the mane 6. 

3. In season 4, Celestia decided to give all the alicorn magic to twilight and decided the only way of winning is by relying on the fact that Tirek didn't know of Twilight's existence (despite having glass paintings of that in the castle and the fact that Tirek might overhear ponies in Equestria mentioning the fourth alicorn princess)

There's probably way more instances that just those.......


 

Here's the thing, though.

Celestia didn't create any of those problems. They happened on their own. She merely pointed Twlight and her friends in their direction. Also, the Elements of Harmony were the only thing that could've stopped Nightmare Moon, and Celestia was no longer able to use them. And when you say Celestia should've helped Twilight deal with those problems, remember that there were many times Discord should've stepped in to help as well but was nowhere to be found.

Discord, on the other hand, MADE the problems. He took broken, defeated villains and made them a threat again, and not only that but he only saw them as pawns instead of people and had no regard for their safety. He probably could've stopped Sombra without having to destroy him. We don't even know what he was going to do to the Legion of Doom if his plan went off without a hitch. And when all was said and done, when the Legion of Doom was rendered helpless, instead of compassion or mercy he only showed spite and gave them a punishment he shouldn't want to wish on anyone.    

The most Flurry Heart is guilty of is not being able to control her magic. 

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

7 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin said:

Here's the thing, though.

Celestia didn't create any of those problems. They happened on their own. She merely pointed Twlight and her friends in their direction. Also, the Elements of Harmony were the only thing that could've stopped Nightmare Moon, and Celestia was no longer able to use them. And when you say Celestia should've helped Twilight deal with those problems, remember that there were many times Discord should've stepped in to help as well but was nowhere to be found.

Discord, on the other hand, MADE the problems. He took broken, defeated villains and made them a threat again, and not only that but he only saw them as pawns instead of people and had no regard for their safety. He probably could've stopped Sombra without having to destroy him. We don't even know what he was going to do to the Legion of Doom if his plan went off without a hitch. And when all was said and done, when the Legion of Doom was rendered helpless, instead of compassion or mercy he only showed spite and gave them a punishment he shouldn't want to wish on anyone.    

The most Flurry Heart is guilty of is not being able to control her magic. 

Technically Celestia created the whole Nightmare Moon thing. She banished her to the moon for a 1000 years, meaning that she was directly responsible for Nightmare Moon's escape as well. Why not banish her permanently. Why just the 1000 years. When she banished her, she would have known that NM would cause problems when she returned. 

Sure lol but Discord really didn't have any obligations to help. Celestia's the one who keeps sending the Mane 6 into dangerous situations. Since she's the one sending them, she should be helping them. She spends more time getting captured and beaten then actually doing anything to help the Mane 6. 

I assume that Discord's plan was to have Twilight and her friends defeat all of the Legion of Doom, so he really didn't need to do anything to the Legion of Doom once their usefulness had ended. If Celestia had cared for safety, she wouldm't let the Mane 6 go off on their own. So you can;t blame Discord of not caring for the safety of VILLAINS. Sombra was already dead, so killing him again really isn't that much of an issue. Out of all the villains, Sombra was the least likely for change anyway. He would have always stayed a villain, so destroying him is the only way to get rid of him. 

A punishment (you mean the turning to a statue thing, right?) that Celestia and Luna incidentally agreed on as well. They helped him do it. If it was so bad, why would the Princesses help him. He gave the Legion of Doom their power back and what did they do to repay him. They betrayed him, stole his magic and chained him up like a common animal later on in the season 9 finale. No wonder he didn't want to show compassion or mercy. Being turned into statue is a lot more merciful than being killed or being stuck in a prison for centuries. Maybe one day they can be released too. 

 

Edited April 23, 2020 by Princess of Hearts 💛🧡

[Rumpelstiltskin 45]

11 hours ago, Princess of Hearts 💛🧡 said:

Technically Celestia created the whole Nightmare Moon thing. She banished her to the moon for a 1000 years, meaning that she was directly responsible for Nightmare Moon's escape as well. Why not banish her permanently. Why just the 1000 years. When she banished her, she would have known that NM would cause problems when she returned. 

Sure lol but Discord really didn't have any obligations to help. Celestia's the one who keeps sending the Mane 6 into dangerous situations. Since she's the one sending them, she should be helping them. She spends more time getting captured and beaten then actually doing anything to help the Mane 6. 

I assume that Discord's plan was to have Twilight and her friends defeat all of the Legion of Doom, so he really didn't need to do anything to the Legion of Doom once their usefulness had ended. If Celestia had cared for safety, she wouldm't let the Mane 6 go off on their own. So you can;t blame Discord of not caring for the safety of VILLAINS. Sombra was already dead, so killing him again really isn't that much of an issue. Out of all the villains, Sombra was the least likely for change anyway. He would have always stayed a villain, so destroying him is the only way to get rid of him. 

A punishment (you mean the turning to a statue thing, right?) that Celestia and Luna incidentally agreed on as well. They helped him do it. If it was so bad, why would the Princesses help him. He gave the Legion of Doom their power back and what did they do to repay him. They betrayed him, stole his magic and chained him up like a common animal later on in the season 9 finale. No wonder he didn't want to show compassion or mercy. Being turned into statue is a lot more merciful than being killed or being stuck in a prison for centuries. Maybe one day they can be released too. 

 

The key difference is that Discord wasn't trying to better the villains or have them prove themselves as being able to rule Equestria. They were never anything but props to him. He didn't see them as people, only as obstacles he could set up and have his friends to knock down. He was planning to betray them from the beginning, so why should they be grateful to him? Any power or advantage he gave them while disguised as Grogar was never for their benefit.   

Nightmare Moon escaped her banishment. And Celestia still cared about and loved her sister deeply, and wanted to help her. She didn't want her to rot on the moon forever. She felt guilt for not being able to help her a thousand years ago and it ate away at her all that time. Discord, who was once evil and was reformed, is best friends with the most compassionate and forgiving of the Mane Six, never thought about reaching out or trying to help the villains when they weren't a threat. He instead tried to use them as cannon fodder. This makes him a hypocrite at best. I could've forgiven him if he at least made an attempt to stand up for the legion of doom and persuade the sisters to show mercy with them as they did with him.      

[Thrond 3,263]

Flurry Heart will eventually be an adult, and may be trustworthy at that time. Discord has been around forever and shows little sign that he will stop being a menace. Not a difficult choice for me. 

[Will Guide 21,362]

On 4/11/2020 at 8:21 AM, Princess of Hearts 💛🧡 said:

 Celestia released Nightmare Moon

Where's your proof? It was the stars that added in her escape, not Celestia who released her! She only saw the signs of Nightmare Moon returning, but didn't contribute to her release.

 

As for Flurry Heart, I imagine her growing up with a good judge of character. If she suspects a bad person will do her people harm, she will plan accordingly so the villian will think they're winning when Flurry has a back up plan

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

4 hours ago, Will Guide said:

Where's your proof? It was the stars that added in her escape, not Celestia who released her! She only saw the signs of Nightmare Moon returning, but didn't contribute to her release.

 

As for Flurry Heart, I imagine her growing up with a good judge of character. If she suspects a bad person will do her people harm, she will plan accordingly so the villian will think they're winning when Flurry has a back up plan

Depends on if you call this proof.

When someone asked Lauren Faust about who release Nightmare Moon, she replied "the stars aligned in a perfect pattern that allowed Nightmare Moon to scape. And who controls the sun, and the moon and the stars?

She was referring to Celestia.

Since season 1 was released while Lauren Faust was still part of the FIM team, I'm pretty sure that this counts as proof, and it really does make sense that Celestia released NM. It's already not a coincidence that NM was released just as Twilight moved to Ponyville to meet her friends. I'm pretty sure that Celestia released her at that point to allow Twilight and her friends to find the elements and defeat NM. Just another way that Celestia has been manipulating events without informing anyone. 

[TotallyNotNyx 15,566]

11 hours ago, Rumpelstiltskin said:

The key difference is that Discord wasn't trying to better the villains or have them prove themselves as being able to rule Equestria. They were never anything but props to him. He didn't see them as people, only as obstacles he could set up and have his friends to knock down. He was planning to betray them from the beginning, so why should they be grateful to him? Any power or advantage he gave them while disguised as Grogar was never for their benefit.   

Nightmare Moon escaped her banishment. And Celestia still cared about and loved her sister deeply, and wanted to help her. She didn't want her to rot on the moon forever. She felt guilt for not being able to help her a thousand years ago and it ate away at her all that time. Discord, who was once evil and was reformed, is best friends with the most compassionate and forgiving of the Mane Six, never thought about reaching out or trying to help the villains when they weren't a threat. He instead tried to use them as cannon fodder. This makes him a hypocrite at best. I could've forgiven him if he at least made an attempt to stand up for the legion of doom and persuade the sisters to show mercy with them as they did with him.      

Yeah, but after the way Tirek betrayed him in Season 4, do you think Discord is in anyway way looking to genuinely team up or help other villains. Why would he reach out to help Tirek? He's never gonna trust other villians again after what Tirek did.

[Splashee 28,566]

Reformed Discord for sure. And it would be more fun than taking care of an infant.

 

There is some risk involved, but I see risks with both characters.

[Rumpelstiltskin 45]

12 hours ago, Princess of Hearts 💛🧡 said:

Yeah, but after the way Tirek betrayed him in Season 4, do you think Discord is in anyway way looking to genuinely team up or help other villains. Why would he reach out to help Tirek? He's never gonna trust other villians again after what Tirek did.

 

I meant help them in the way Fluttershy and the others helped him, try to reform them. He had more than enough power to contain them and keep them from acting out. He could've helped them become better people, but instead he purposely made them worse.