Humans Scary to Ponies?

[Random User 249]

*Also snipped for space*

 

I actually would love to converse about this more deeply. A thread on the subject would be nice if it hasn't already been made.

[MyLittleGlueFactory 2]

Have you ever seen a horses eyes?

[Nas 2,873]

I don't know about scary, but I'm sure Lyra would love to see one.

[Starshine 16,333]

Have you ever seen a horses eyes?

 

 

Ribbit

 

But then again, we are talking about ponies with huge heads, crazy colored mane and fur, and a surprise package of wings or horn

[callmebrony 16]

Lots of people think ponies would be scared of humans like they were of Zacora.

 

But I think Zacora was really scary to them because of the hood, the seemingly glowing eyes, she came from the Everfree forest, and she was very pony-like but not a pony, was probably the biggest thing. See: Uncanny Valley.

 

The Uncanny Valley is where something looks very human, but not quiet. This graph from the linked wikipedia article charts "creepiness" (further down, more creepy, higher up, more appealing) and human likeness (further right is more human-like).

 

Zacora's big issue was probably landing close to the pony's uncanny valley, because she was so pony-like but wasn't actually a pony. Well, not a horse pony, anyways. I doubt she looked like a zombie to them, but all the familiarity, but with the stripes, different mane, eyes, ears, the differences were probably enough to make her look scary, coupled with the fact she came from Everfree and wore that hood.

 

A good analogy would be Klingons. If a human village that had never heard of Star Trek saw a Klingon come from the woods in dark robes, they would probably be quiet terrified, especially if the woods he came from had a terrifying reputation already.

 

But us humans, we probably would look more like a dragon like Spike than anything else. A scaleless dragon, like a lizard, but with a monkeyish face and a mane. My guess is, the mane along with the other alien features would make us a really odd sight to look at. Something that would attract a lot of curiosity, with some fear. Now, walk out of the Everfree forest onto a lone pony, and they'd probably be terrified, though. Come from somewhere a bit less creepy, and they'd probably just be really nervous.

 

What do y'all think?

 

i dont know, maybe maybe not. we dont want to hurt them so i dont see the problem

 

 

Ribbit

 

But then again, we are talking about ponies with huge heads, crazy colored mane and fur, and a surprise package of wings or horn

 

wow those eyes scared me when i scrolled up

 

The difference is that ponies talk, primarily. And looking adorable certainly doesn't hurt.

 

You could make an argument about mankind's abuse and enslavement of minorities, but at the time it was seen as a necessary evil, much like driving is today. Lots of people have died in car crashes, it's probably up there as one of the leading causes of unexpected death, yet we keep doing it because it's necessary, hence a necessary evil.

 

And primarily, I really believe humans have moved on past dehumanizing talking, thinking, feeling entities that can rightly be called people, such as MLP ponies.

 

 

 

 

Luckily, NATO is currently the primary world superpower. Someone may say "China", but consider this; we have "Made in USA" products - they're more expensive - but we could live without China. China, on the other hand, is rather dependent on our continued purchasing of services from their country. And militaristicaly speaking, NATO is most certainly the world leader.

 

In international politics, might really is right. So it really depends on how pacifist NATO, or rather, the U.S. is. Do we defend Equestria from other, more militaristic nations, or do we decide to be pacifist, "and just stay out of it"? It's one thing to regulate companies - we do that a lot, and we didn't drill Alaska which might have paid off our debts, and cut off the money supply for terrorist organizations and African warlords - for the sake of not putting some drills in a huge forest. So I have no concerns about what would happen to Equestria if it fell under NATO or U.S. jurisdiction.

 

But, if we decide to not put it under our own jurisdiction?... Other countries are a bit less friendly.

 

 

 

The space shuttle sets off car alarms from 7 miles away, and VIP seating was 3 miles from the pad - much closer and it would burst ear drums. but the Saturn V had a lot more thrust than that.

 

The most powerful machine mankind has ever flown:

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Ah, pessimism about the human race, and anti-human sentiments, we meet again.

 

In an old thread, linked here, someone brought up this anti-humanist thinking again, and I like what I wrote there, so I'll quote it here. It was in response to a particularly malthusian statement about mankind being horrible. It's the reply to the last quotation in the post I made:

 

 

 

I have zero tolerance for outright anti-human sentiment. There's bad, but there's also good, after all, we're the ones who came up with shows like MLP, and an idea is the beginning of everything. Ponies didn't create themselves then make the show on Earth, we made the show, we came up with the idea of Equestria, which shows without a doubt that we aspire to something of that state, even if there is disagreement on how to get there.

 

I would think that mankind would be inspired by Equestria if we were to discover it, and I've written a fair bit about that at the beginning of this post, though the weaknesses the ponies have are so human-like I wonder about how much we could corrupt them. It's not like they don't already know about little things like greed or deceit.

 

 

Anyways, it's a great topic, no doubt, but if anyone wants to reply then ask me to start a thread on it, this thread is more about if humans would be scary to ponies

 

Beg your pardon, simply couldn't let anti-human sentiment go by without a response of some sort.

 

And also, not having children is perhaps the worst possible response to seeing mankind in a poor state. WE make up our world, WE are the human race. Whether or not you have children, other, worse people will have children and continue the human race. So who would you rather rule the future?

 

Your own children, who follow your example, are often like you, and that you raise, teach, and lead -

Or the people who produce the most children, who can be vile, cruel, judgemental, and carry all the flaws of mankind in abundance?

 

'Cause if everyone who wants a better world doesn't have children, then we'll be a rather horrible situation. If you want a better world, it's up to you to make it happen. Bailing out and letting less noble individuals take over isn't going to help one bit.

 

that spaceship video is amazing

[Radiance64 7,053]

I don't think they'd mind us humans so much, we are all intelligent creatures after all.

That is, as long as we don't tell them we watch them...

[Comet Tail 808]

My browser is acting up again, so forgive me for the lack of proper quotes

 

 

 

It's better if Equestria actually has a better means to defend themselves imo. My best bet is that Celestia will actually able to construct a permanent, indestructible shield around her land. That way they will have a slightly better standing in the international world.

 

But looking from Equestria's monarchy system, I kinda afraid that the U.S. will try to "bring democracy" to Equestria :­(

 

I doubt it. After all, this is the same country that's too pacifist to stop genocide in Africa.

 

I'm not really about the, "The human race is going to destroy each other", rather, we're going to destroy ourselves without meaning to. My main concern is how we treat the environment, our planet. We're doing a pretty horrible job of it, with increasing pollution, landfills, diminishing resources - all of these problems are of a great concern to me that nobody seems serious about doing anything to fix it. We take small steps, sure, recycling, researching new forms of energy; but I fear it'll be too little too late.

 

And BTW - I would indeed like a thread dedicated to such a topic, it could be some good discussion.

 

I actually would love to converse about this more deeply. A thread on the subject would be nice if it hasn't already been made.

 

Made it

http://mlpforums.com/topic/20350-the-human-race/

 

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that spaceship video is amazing

 

Thanks

[Scootaloo Is Best Filly 578]

I think if I ever went to Equestria I would be kinda strange and new to them but I really think they'd warm up to me.

[callmebrony 16]

I doubt it. After all, this is the same country that's too pacifist to stop genocide in Africa.

 

 

 

 

Made it

http://mlpforums.com...the-human-race/

 

 

Thanks

 

no problem its really cool i love space. [insert portal reference]

[Xanthous 44]

Well, seeing that some of the bronies can be creepy even for us, the ponies would find them creepy as well.

 

Humans in general, not really.

[callmebrony 16]

Well, seeing that some of the bronies can be creepy even for us, the ponies would find them creepy as well.

 

Humans in general, not really.

 

that would stink if they're scared of us ;(

[Comet Tail 808]

Well, seeing that some of the bronies can be creepy even for us, the ponies would find them creepy as well.

 

Humans in general, not really.

 

I have a suspicion on why. See "Gaze avoidance"

It also applies to Social Anxiety Disorder, according to that article.

 

In other words - don't call people creepy if you can't understand why. I know some guy that was really nice back in 6th grade, but nobody liked him and some people even thought he was creepy for no good reason.

 

And on the topic of humans in Ponyville: remember how Pinkie reacted to seeing Twilight new there? I think Pinkie might think the same way about a human in Ponyville. Poor fella doesn't have any friends!

 

We would be able to hide most of our oddness with clothes, anyways, which aren't unusual for ponies, especially Canterlot ponies judging by "Sweet and Elite" (which honestly made me wish Canterlot came under siege, and in hindsight I'm now glad at the events of the season 2 finale. Maybe they're a bit less snobby now.)

Edited June 14, 2012 by EASA - Matt

[Staticthor Draconus 958]

*goes human form* i guess you guys havent met me yet

[Senor Citizen 516]

I have a suspicion on why. See "Gaze avoidance"

It also applies to Social Anxiety Disorder, according to that article.

 

In other words - don't call people creepy if you can't understand why. I know some guy that was really nice back in 6th grade, but nobody liked him and some people even thought he was creepy for no good reason.

 

And on the topic of humans in Ponyville: remember how Pinkie reacted to seeing Twilight new there? I think Pinkie might think the same way about a human in Ponyville. Poor fella doesn't have any friends!

 

We would be able to hide most of our oddness with clothes, anyways, which aren't unusual for ponies, especially Canterlot ponies judging by "Sweet and Elite" (which honestly made me wish Canterlot came under siege, and in hindsight I'm now glad at the events of the season 2 finale. Maybe they're a bit less snobby now.)

 

As an autistic individual, |I commend you on hunting down that article.

 

*goes human form* i guess you guys havent met me yet

 

You will not crank this thing around wackbards. I like where it's going already.

[moneyshredderofdeath 414]

There would likely be initial shock no matter what due to how humans are completely foreign to Equestria. After the ponies are past the original shock, it would all depend on how the humans act. If the humans are kind and friendly, the ponies would appreciate them, but if the humans were abrasive, the fear would still be there.

[Nouth 496]

Well, I think that there would be no problem with us for ponies as long as there would not be found any oil under Equestria. If there was... well you know which way our ,,glorious" civilization reacts to finding oil. (war...)

[Mason 2]

I think they'd be scared or intrigued by humans. Maybe, if they know about humans, they'd consider them "mythological creatures." ("Don't be silly, you know humans don't exist!")

 

I could be completely wrong though.

[zDashiez 496]

("Don't be silly, you know humans don't exist!")

 

You gave me a idea for a sketch thanks

But you have a point they could have some ancient legend good/bad that could make things complicated

[XrosOver 613]

An easy way to avoid fear is walk around with twilight considering she would be actually interested in talking to you, tell them your an herbivore, don't tell them anything about earth except the good things.....so tell them almost nothing.

[Krouton 13]

Humans have obvious features of carnivores/omnivores. For example, our eyes face forward like most predators'. This characteristic is very noticeable and "should" terrify herbivorous ponies. Not that a pony couldn't overide this fear with assured invulnerability, but my point is that human should instinctively scare ponies because of our generally "carnivorous" appearance.