Xievie 498 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Well, the Kaelkinator got me thinking about this. He posted a picture of Deharmonized Elements of Harmony... Well then, what if there were the opposite of Elements of Harmony? Say, maybe they appeared in an episode. Well, I have a question for anypony who reads this. What would these Elements be called? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So we have: Honesty Kindness Laughter Generosity Loyalty Magic --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What would you say the opposite of these are? "Real life is just a crappy game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintfreshAD 55 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Dishonesty Cruelty Anger Selfishness Betrayal Chaos Are the best I could come up with. Laughter is hard to find an opposite to that fits the disharmony theme. 4 If you're happy and you know it you're unusual. But that doesn't mean it's not worth trying~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryGamer432 155 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 (edited) Dishonesty Cruelty Anger Selfishness Betrayal Chaos Are the best I could come up with. Laughter is hard to find an opposite to that fits the disharmony theme. maybe despair or gloom or pain or sorrow Edited July 18, 2012 by Thatpony124 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightive 458 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 (edited) Dishonesty Cruelty serious Selfish Betrayal science! x3 yeah i dunno! Edited July 18, 2012 by Midnightive 1 Ivy, Sakura, Pixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintfreshAD 55 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 maybe despair or gloom or pain or sorrow Yeah those work too! It's easier if you think about it as the opposite of how Pinky is I guess ^^; If you're happy and you know it you're unusual. But that doesn't mean it's not worth trying~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xievie 498 July 18, 2012 Author Share July 18, 2012 For Magic, couldn't it be Taboo or Witchcraft? "Real life is just a crappy game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nah 3,182 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 For Magic, couldn't it be Taboo or Witchcraft? How about alternate universes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolius rpi 117 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 I once made an entire graph explaining the elements of disharmony. I would call them the elements of chaos, because chaos sounds cooler. Now I finally get to use that chart! I also guess the elements of chaos would be most prevalent when discord corrupts the mane six.untitled.bmp I would say- Twiluight sparkle: Science] Pinkie pie: Angst Fluttershy: Cruelty rarity: avarice (If you dont know waht avarice means you should read a damn book.) rainbow Dash: betrayal applejack: Lies for those with slow computers this becomes easier when you have an extended vocabulary untitled.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor XFizzle 8,670 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 (edited) Gonna try to find more unique/descriptive terms but mintfreshAD and Fanayvea pretty much have them nailed Twilight: Magic -> Logic Rainbow Dash: Loyalty -> Treason Pinkie Pie: Laughter -> Weeping Fluttershy: Kindness -> Cruelty Rarity: Generosity -> Avarice Applejack: Honesty -> Deceit Edited July 18, 2012 by Doctor XFizzle 4 MLP Forums' resident timelord, sports dilettante, and purveyor of wit and humor~*Traveling Timelord Nonpareil*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintfreshAD 55 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 I would say- Twiluight sparkle: Science] Pinkie pie: Angst Fluttershy: Cruelty rarity: avarice (If you dont know waht avarice means you should read a damn book.) rainbow Dash: betrayal applejack: Lies The only thing about those is that angst and science don't seem particularly disharmonious or chaotic. Magic in the series seems to be based on rules and structure, judging by all Twilight's study. That's why I went with chaos, perhaps anarchy would work too. As for Pinkie, well, she's all about making people smile and laugh and feel good. So the opposite might be something like mockery or schadenfreude. If you're happy and you know it you're unusual. But that doesn't mean it's not worth trying~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrL0LZ 866 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 So, Magic when reversed is Science? And Logic? Those two are complete opposites to chaos, so if these are elements of chaos..... I can see how logic and science equal Disharmony though...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintfreshAD 55 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Gonna try to find more unique/descriptive terms but mintfreshAD and Fanayvea pretty much have them nailed Twilight: Magic -> Logic Rainbow Dash: Loyalty -> Treason Pinkie Pie: Laughter -> Weeping Fluttershy: Kindness -> Cruelty Rarity: Generosity -> Avarice Applejack: Honesty -> Deceit Maybe Sorrow instead of Weeping? The Element of Sorrow flows a bit better I think. Still not convinced that science or logic are opposites of magic in the MLP world, since their magic seems to be a sort of science in itself. It also doesn't sound all that negative compared to the other ones ^^; If you're happy and you know it you're unusual. But that doesn't mean it's not worth trying~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor XFizzle 8,670 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Maybe Sorrow instead of Weeping? Yeah I was trying to go with a direct opposite of laughing, but I guess weeping isn't the best choice. MLP Forums' resident timelord, sports dilettante, and purveyor of wit and humor~*Traveling Timelord Nonpareil*~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolius rpi 117 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 The only thing about those is that angst and science don't seem particularly disharmonious or chaotic. Magic in the series seems to be based on rules and structure, judging by all Twilight's study. That's why I went with chaos, perhaps anarchy would work too. As for Pinkie, well, she's all about making people smile and laugh and feel good. So the opposite might be something like mockery or schadenfreude. Youre right. I would say that magic is the hardest to find an opposite for. But, also, youre right. sorrow dosent seem like the opposite of laughter. Just becuase yoy laugh dosent mean your happy, many crazy people laugh, and many people laugh to hide their feelings. When people are in angst, they to tend to not laugh at all theyre mostly not at peace with themselves. if you arent at peace with yourself, that certainly points to some disharmony, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkazoid 3,493 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Dishonesty (Honesty) Cruelty (Kindness) Wrath (Laughter) Avarice (Generosity) Betrayal (Loyalty) Sorcery (Magic) :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirseansy 87 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 (edited) Rainbow: Arrogance Fluttershy: fear Pinkie: spontinaeity Twilight: paranoia (think lesson zero) Rarity: vanity AJ:.....uuuuuummmmm...... I got nothin'. These are all, of course, based on the character's actual imperfections instead of their discorded qualities. *also I didn't make this up...it was on the cheezburger site..... Edited July 18, 2012 by sirseansy I'm pretty cool. I think. Also, new OC (it has a cutie mark this time!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintfreshAD 55 July 18, 2012 Share July 18, 2012 Rainbow: Arrogance Fluttershy: fear Pinkie: spontinaeity Twilight: paranoia (think lesson zero) Rarity: vanity AJ:.....uuuuuummmmm...... I got nothin'. These are all, of course, based on the character's actual imperfections instead of their discorded qualities. *also I didn't make this up...it was on the cheezburger site..... On that criteria, I'd say Applejack's is probably pride. If you're happy and you know it you're unusual. But that doesn't mean it's not worth trying~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty91 57 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Hatred (Dark half of Fluttershy and Element of Cruelty, leader of the Elements of Disharmony) Sorrow (Element of Despair and dark half of Pinkie Pie) Avarice (dark half of Rarity and Element of Wealth) Deceit (Dark half of Applekjack and Element of Deception) Blaze (Element of Betrayal and dark half of Rainbow Dash) Oblivion (dark half of Twilight Sparkle and Element of Non-Magic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixel Stick 927 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Well, I'd been thinking about this topic at one point too, but I had a different track: Twilight = Obsessive compulsion Applejack = Stubbornness Rainbow Dash = Egotism Rarity = Narcissism Pinkie Pie = Neurosis/Psychosis Fluttershy = Paranoia Not really opposites of the Elements of Harmony here, but fun nonetheless. 1 If you wanna make the world a better place, Take a look at yourself, then make a change. -- Michael Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hay Lin 38 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Everyone, Science and Magic can't be the chaos counterpart of magic. Twilight uses them. Sheesh.... Magic-Witchcraft. Laughter-This Element of Disharmony is divided into two-Craziness(as in Pinkanema Diane Pie craziness) and Sadness. Kindness-Cruelty Loyalty-Betrayal Honesty-Deciet Generosity-Selfishness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewsarchusJones 13 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Wah? Why is science and logic the opposite of magic? We know Twilight has used science in 'Feeling Pinkie Keen' and is the most consistently logical thinking character. She even goes gets on a literal soapbox about how magic is logical... Magic requires training and hard work, so maybe work from that for it's opposite. But honestly, I don't think that one needs to be changed, as magic can be used to create disharmony. Like Discord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittlePonyTales 273 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Honesty becomes Deceit. Kindness becomes Cruelty. Laughter becomes Despair. Generosity becomes Greed. Loyalty becomes Betrayal. Magic becomes... magic. I mean, magic is just spells and enchantments. What the wielder does can be good or evil. Magic is neither good nor evil, it has no moral persuasion. "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature's Spell 526 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 Not to state the obvious, but didn't this happen in the Return of Harmony 1 & 2? The only one that didn't switch to her opposite character was Twilight, since she just gave up. Not sure if magic has a opposite. I'll go with what Twi said, "We've got the liar, the grump, the hoarder and the brute." Princess Twilight Sparkle: Princess of Friendship Princess Luna: Princess of the Night My short stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittlePonyTales 273 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 But I don't think all of the nicknames Twilight gave them are necessarily personality traits. I did think of that before I made my post, but then... yeah, what I said in my first sentence. "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature's Spell 526 April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 But I don't think all of the nicknames Twilight gave them are necessarily personality traits. I did think of that before I made my post, but then... yeah, what I said in my first sentence. I'd say they are quite descriptive, no? Actually they are personality traits and I'm sticking with them. Besides they are canon. Princess Twilight Sparkle: Princess of Friendship Princess Luna: Princess of the Night My short stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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