music Musical Misconceptions/Stereotypes That Bother You

[Concerto Dusk 240]

that rock music makes you a brute, or unsophisticated, or that acdc sucks, and my personal faves, that death metal and screamo arent music  like really? get some taste in music

Edited March 13, 2014 by mirrorwing

[Away 2,077]

Me: "Bach composed some of my favourite cello pieces."

 

Person: "Oh, yeah, he's that really famous Classical composer."

 

Me: "He composed music during the Baroque period, not the Classical period."

 

Person: "Same thing really."

 

Me:

^THIS. Seriously. It bugs me when people group the Baroque, Classical, and Romantic periods as the same thing.

[Scootalove 10,692]

I hate the musical stereotype that says that people who make Rock or Metal have no musical talent at all.

 

Just, never say that.

[OptimisticNeighsayer 479]

I've always been bugged by picture dictionaries that universally depict opera as either Wagnerian and/or lavishly decorated and costumed.  Unfortunately, this is the stereotype that most people have about opera, which is just plain wrong and I think drives some of the younger generation away.

[Tigerpop198 696]

That all classic punk rock fans, hate the punk rock of the 90's. You see an awful lot of it though.

[Evilshy 5,093]

Now, I'm no expert on Classical/Baroque/etc. but I do know that they're quite different from each other. Is it kinda like how I get annoyed when people say that Thrash Metal, Prog Metal and Metalcore are all just Metal?

 

For example, true story (from high school):

 

Girl: Hey, whatcha doin'?

Me: Not much, listening to some Dragonforce I just bought.

Girl: Never heard of them, what are they?
Me: One of the more popular Powermetal bands.

Girl: Eww, I can't stand metal. It's all just screamo to me.

Me: Actually not a lot of metal is what you would call "screamo". Power metal is all about playing really fast and complicated stuff and epic solos and things like that.

Girl: *goes to YouTube, listens to a few minutes of Dragonforce* "Yeah, that's just screamo to me. I don't know how anyone can listen to metal."

Me: /)_-  *thinking "Oh my god I can't believe I used to date you."*

 

 

 

I've always been bugged by picture dictionaries that universally depict opera as either Wagnerian and/or lavishly decorated and costumed.  Unfortunately, this is the stereotype that most people have about opera, which is just plain wrong and I think drives some of the younger generation away.

Sort of related, but it's the same with Shakespeare. People see pictures of the plays or read some excerpts of it and think it's all boring, flowery language. I always knew the plays were good (understatement, I know), but I only read them, figuring that an actual play would be boring as hell.

 

Went to Love's Labour's Lost at a ren fair, it was really funny and I quite enjoyed myself.

[irondefender 57]

"IT ONLY TAKES ONE PRESS OF A BUTTON TO MAKE ELECTRONIC MUSIC!!!111"

No...Just no. Have people not heard of Kraftwerk or Daft Punk? they're two of the most popular electronic artists ever!

"NOISE MUSIC ISN'T MUSIC!!!'11"

Tell that to to Merzbow, the most popular noise artist ever, he's inspired so many and invented the genre.

[ReverseFaller 2,484]

Scootalove, on 13 Mar 2014 - 3:50 PM, said:

I hate the musical stereotype that says that people who make Rock or Metal have no musical talent at all.

 

Just, never say that.

 

This.

 

I also hate it when people instantly make their opinion of me negative once they find out I like a band they don't.

[Scootalove 10,692]

This.

 

I also hate it when people instantly make their opinion of me negative once they find out I like a band they don't.

I know right, it bugs everyone to death.

[Hansel 1,512]

^THIS. Seriously. It bugs me when people group the Baroque, Classical, and Romantic periods as the same thing.

 

I got into a HUGE debate with my friend over this once, but I do actually get the confusion. I get muddled up myself sometimes, especially between late Baroque and early Classical, and even late Medieval and early Baroque Renaissance.

When it comes to Romanticism though, it's generally so different to the previous periods.

 

Although I guess it doesn't always help when you have some composers like Beethoven who were around during the transition periods.

:okiedokielokie:

 

The thing that bugs me isn't so much that people often get composers muddled up with their respective periods, I'm just not pretentious or cultured enough to be angry at that, it's more to do with how it's generally accepted that Baroque, Classical, Romanticism, (and even Medival to some degree) are just "sub-genres" of Classical.

Why would you even choose Classical? It's not even the best period! .___. 

Edited March 14, 2014 by Hansel

[caramba2654 602]

I hate it when people ask "Which genre do you like the most?"

 

I DON'T LIKE ANY GENRES!

 

I like music by itself, not by its genre. There are some dubsteps that I like, some that I don't, some classical that I like, some that I don't, etc... It really depends, so don't call me a Rock or a Metal fan.

 

 

For example, I like this:

 

 

and this:

 

 

at the same time.

[Sir Fluffernutter 435]

The one where people think that all forms of metal are the same exact thing. I can't stand it, and it happens so often. Some girl in my grade literally called Black Sabbath "screamo." Oh, and Dragonforce was "screamo" as well, apparently.

 

Another annoying one is when people think violins and violas are the same thing. Especially for me, because I play the viola in my school's orchestra. It usually goes like this:

 

Some kid: Oh, you play the violin?

Me: Actually, I play the viola, but I am in the orchestra.

Some kid: Same thing

Me: Actually, no. Violas tend to be slightly larger and instead of having an E string, they have a C string, which allows them to play deeper notes than the violins.

Some kid: They're still the same.

 

Dude, I just explained to you how they're different and you still tell me they're the same? Are you kidding?

Edited March 14, 2014 by NebulousBrony

[Hansel 1,512]

The one where people think that all forms of metal are the same exact thing. I can't stand it, and it happens so often. Some girl in my grade literally called Black Sabbath "screamo." Oh, and Dragonforce was "screamo" as well, apparently.

 

Another annoying one is when people think violins and violas are the same thing. Especially for me because I play the viola in my schools orchestra. It usually goes like this:

 

Some kid: Oh, you play the violin?

Me: Actually, I play the viola, but I am in the orchestra.

Some kid: Same thing

Me: Actually, no. Violas tend to be slightly larger and instead of having an E string, they have a C string, which allows them to play deeper notes than the violins.

Some kid: They're still the same.

 

Dude, I just explained to you how they're different and you still tell me they're the same? Are you kidding?

 

It's all about the violoncello.

 

 

<3

Edited March 14, 2014 by Hansel

[Satsuki Kiryuin 1,155]

"Electronic Music requires no skill and is just pushing buttons."

[Linux Distro 109]

.-. When everyone calls my Glitch music dubstep. My Electro Swing, dubstep. My instrumentals, dubstep. My trance progressive, dubstep. My electro house, dubstep. And it REALLY pisses me off when they make fun of Adele.

[Satsuki Kiryuin 1,155]

 

 

.-. When everyone calls my Glitch music dubstep. My Electro Swing, dubstep. My instrumentals, dubstep. My trance progressive, dubstep. My electro house, dubstep. And it REALLY pisses me off when they make fun of Adele.

 

" I love your D00bst33p yooooo dawg."

 

I couldn't agree more.

When people assume that just because you're a music producer you want to produce/produce Dubstep.

[Antismurf9001 1,271]

The idea that electronic music is bad because it takes no effort to create is one thing that bothers me. It takes some serious musical knowledge to make anything worthwhile. If you don't like it, fine, but don't make it sound like all electronic is that easy. That just means there'll be more that's not that good compared to what is good.

 

I absolutely agree.  Electronic music is only easy to perform (though that is also debatable); composing it is another matter entirely.  It is not just pressing a button on a computer.

 

As for my own, it's more of a recent pet peeve of mine, but by definition, a song is required to have lyrics.  If a piece of music does not have spoken words, it cannot technically be called a song.  Also, the notion that an ensemble conductor doesn't actually do anything.  That is false, the conductor does (most times) ridiculously important.  They are not just standing up there making random hand motions; there is a pattern and it makes perfect sense.  It's not something I hear very often, but it irritates me every time I do...

[Stellafera 3,836]

"Rap music is about X"

 

Rap music can be whatever the heck you want rap music to be about. Sure, some topics are more commonly covered than others, but that's like saying that all showtunes have to be about the same thing due to some stylistic similarities. 

 

Rap music can be about this

 

 

Rap music can be about this

 

 

Rap music can be about this

 

 

Rap music can be about my pet cat.

 

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

IT'S ALL RAP.

 

OKAY?

Edited March 14, 2014 by Stellafera

[Discordian 6,024]

It's all about the violoncello.

 

 

<3

Cello 4 life.

 

I absolutely agree.  Electronic music is only easy to perform (though that is also debatable); composing it is another matter entirely.  It is not just pressing a button on a computer.

 

As for my own, it's more of a recent pet peeve of mine, but by definition, a song is required to have lyrics.  If a piece of music does not have spoken words, it cannot technically be called a song.  Also, the notion that an ensemble conductor doesn't actually do anything.  That is false, the conductor does (most times) ridiculously important.  They are not just standing up there making random hand motions; there is a pattern and it makes perfect sense.  It's not something I hear very often, but it irritates me every time I do...

I'm confused. Are you saying that you don't consider a song music without lyrics or are you saying you hate the stereotype/misconception for it? If it's the former, could you explain it? Curiosity.

[Away 2,077]

I got into a HUGE debate with my friend over this once, but I do actually get the confusion. I get muddled up myself sometimes, especially between late Baroque and early Classical, and even late Medieval and early Baroque.

When it comes to Romanticism though, it's generally so different to the previous periods.

 

Although I guess it doesn't always help when you have some composers like Beethoven who were around during the transition periods.

:okiedokielokie:

 

The thing that bugs me isn't so much that people often get composers muddled up with their respective periods, I'm just not pretentious or cultured enough to be angry at that, it's more to do with how it's generally accepted that Baroque, Classical, Romanticism, (and even Medival to some degree) are just "sub-genres" of Classical.

Why would you even choose Classical? It's not even the best period! .___. 

I hear what you're saying, brah. Don't forget the Renaissance period too (roughly between the Medieval and Baroque periods).

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,828]

"All rap is explicit". I totally hate this one. It is true that rap can be explicit, but there are plenty of clean stuff out there. 

[Hansel 1,512]

Electronic music is only easy to perform (though that is also debatable);   

 

Yeah, it kinda depends on how you choose to perform it. A lot of bands and artists I listed to use keyboards, drums, and sometimes guitars and bass.

 

Even if we're talking about EDM where they primarily use "non-traditional" instruments and hardware, it can still be pretty complex deppending on how you're doing it.

 

The "it's just pushing buttons" thing is true. But... playing the piano is also "just pushing buttons".

 

 

 

I hear what you're saying, brah. Don't forget the Renaissance period too (roughly between the Medieval and Baroque periods).

 

 

Ah, the era we all forget about. xD

Renaissance music is annoyingly under-rated.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Hansel

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

That dubstep isn't music and that classical music is superior to everything. Or generally old music.

[Antismurf9001 1,271]

Yeah, it kinda deppends on how you choose to perform it. A lot of bands and artists I listed to use keyboards, drums, and sometimes guitars and bass.

 

Even if we're talking about EDM where they primarily use "non-traditional" instruments and hardware, it can still be pretty complex deppending on how you're doing it.

 

The "it's just pushing buttons" thing is true. But... playing the piano is also "just pushing buttons".

 

Ah, I apologize, I should have clarified that I wasn't talking about pieces that are performed by electronic instruments.  I meant pieces that require no human performers, and are only meant to be played through speakers.  Playing an electronic instrument is certainly not easy.

 

I'm confused. Are you saying that you don't consider a song music without lyrics or are you saying you hate the stereotype/misconception for it? If it's the former, could you explain it? Curiosity.

 

Oh no, I'm just being nit-picky about the technical definition of a song (I'm sorry that my only reference at the moment is from Dictionary.com).  For example the Beethoven sonatas are not technically songs, because they have no lyrics, nor are they intended to mimic a piece that is sung (as far as I know... anyone who actually knows about music history could probably correct me).  They are wonderful, and they're absolutely considered music but you can't actually call them songs.  It's a distinction that bothers all of my music professors, so it has sort of rubbed off on me.

[Envy 6,529]

Oh no, I'm just being nit-picky about the technical definition of a song (I'm sorry that my only reference at the moment is from Dictionary.com).  For example the Beethoven sonatas are not technically songs, because they have no lyrics, nor are they intended to mimic a piece that is sung (as far as I know... anyone who actually knows about music history could probably correct me).  They are wonderful, and they're absolutely considered music but you can't actually call them songs.  It's a distinction that bothers all of my music professors, so it has sort of rubbed off on me.

 

The great irony here is that "sonata" means song.

 

 Although you probably know that if you're studying music.

 

How do people not know what an oboe sounds like?

 

I wouldn't know, woodwind and brass instruments are a large part of my life, but for others they aren't, and those people can be very clueless, since woodwind/brass instruments are rare in today's mainstream music. You may hear a saxophone or a trumpet, but that'll be it. Music was so much better when a trumpet/trombone/saxophone section was a main part of many rock bands.

 

(Although if one might be able to prove me wrong, since I'm not too familiar with mainstream music beyond the early 2000's/my teen years. The most recent example with an oboe I can think of is Madonna's Crazy For You.. That is, from the 80s. lol)

 

Thus, for them the oboe is one of those irrelevant (in their eyes) instruments they learned about in elementary school and have since forgotten.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Envy