movies/tv What do you think of Batman's moral code.

[Blue Moon 6,341]

You all know Batman. He is a superhero from DC Comics. But some of you also know of his moral code. The one on which he will never kill anyone and he will never use a gun. I want to know what you think of this. Here is what I have to say/

 

Him not using a gun is pretty easy to figure out. His parents were killed by the bullet of a gun, so I don't think he would use the same weapon that killed his parents. Also, guns usually kill people, which leads me to my next subject.

 

Batman never kills. This is a very interesting topic. There have been many instances where Batman has put a focus on not killing anyone. In the video game, Arkham City, something he says is very interesting. 

 

Even after everything you would have done, I still would have saved you.

 

I'm not saying who he said this too, for sake of spoilers, but this is very interesting. This means that he will not let someone die, no matter what they have done in the past. 

 

My next subject is from the movie, Batman: Under the Red Hood. Near the end of this movie, there is a very interesting scene. I will try to explain what happened as best I can. Basically, Robin was killed by the Joker, but brought back to life. Batman doesn't know that Robin is back though. But Robin isn't the same as he was before he died. He is much more violent now and will even kill criminals. He argues to Batman that he is what Gotham needs because he actually gets rid of the villains instead of just putting them in prison. The next scene takes place in a room with Batman, Robin, and The Joker. Robin is angry at Batman for not killing The Joker, even when he killed Robin. Robin is trying to make Batman kill The Joker with a gun, but Batman refuses. Here is a conversation between Robin and Batman: (Whenever they "him" or "he", they are referring to The Joker.)

 

 

Robin: Ignoring what he's done in the past. Blindly, stupid, disregarding the entire graveyards he's filled, the thousands of who have suffered, the friends he's crippled. You know, I thought... I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt. If it had been you that he beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would've done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil death-worshiping garbage and sent him off to hell.

Batman: You don't understand. I don't think you'd ever understood.

Robin: What? What, your moral code just won't allow for that? It's too hard to cross that line?

Batman: No. God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others and them end him.

Joker: Aw. So you do think about me.

Batman: But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place, I'll never come back.

Robin: Why? I'm not talking about killing Penguin or Scarecrow or Dent. I'm talking about him. Just him. And doing it because... Because he took me away from you.

Batman: I can't. I'm sorry.

 

 

 

This is a very interesting thing about Batman. No matter what someone has done, he won't kill them. Is this a good thing about his character and he is good person along with being a hero, or is it cowardly of him to not kill a criminal of heinous acts just because it goes against his moral code even though if he killed them, no one would ever be hurt by that criminal ever again.

 

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

[Lightning Fluttershy 1,844]

Batman's moral code in a nutshell.

 

He doesn't kill anyone. They just go on a trip for a long, long, long time. If collegehumor says it's true, then it is.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Lightning Fluttershy

[Batbrony 16,055]

Simple enough question with a simple enough answer, and one that I obviously need to get my two cents in on.  Batman's "No-Killing" rule is a central aspect of his character and both one of his most admirable character traits as well as one of the biggest qualifiers for his superhero status.  While other superheroes simply take it as a given that they intend not to kill anyone, Batman has made it a central focus of his crime-fighting career, and that helps him stay grounded in his war on crime.  While he's certainly had moments where he's almost been pushed over the edge, those have only been in the most extreme instances; on the other hand, other superheroes sometimes are more easily susceptible to the temptation to kill a mortal foe if something terrible happens to them or someone close to them.  Ultimately, although Batman's application of fear against those who prey on the fearful makes him one of the most intense superheroes out there who straddles the line between good and evil more than most, his #1 rule never to kill anyone no matter what they've done reminds him always what the true justice that he seeks is and is in my book one of the biggest qualifiers, if not the biggest qualifier, of Batman as one of the greatest superheroes out there, if not the greatest.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Batbrony

[Zygen 6,066]

I was going to come here and make a joke about when batbrony will find this thread, but I see I am to late .

 

I Personally agree with his code a good bit, because honestly I don't like to see people suffer, I can even sometimes feel sympathy for people doing bad things, oddly enough. I really don't think I'd be able to bring myself to kill someone really, but I've not really been in a situation, and I hope I never am, where that would be an option.

 

I think it's also an interesting factor about his charactor.

 

However I'll be honest and say I really haven't watched a whole lot of the batman movies and stuff, so my knowledge personally on batman is a bit limited.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think Batman only has the ''no-killing'' rule because, he doesn't intend to kill or does not want to kill the person that he is after.  Batman is basically a very good protector of Gotham and a DC hero with great character development. He is like the ''jar'' to the pickle of Gotham. He protects Gotham from any villain intending to destroy it. He basically intends not to kill to put fear into the villains, but even after he is sent over the edge or they try to kill Batman. He will not kill them, that is what makes him different from the rest of the DC heroes.

[Blue Moon 6,341]

I think Batman only has the ''no-killing'' rule because, he doesn't intend to kill or does not want to kill the person that he is after.  Batman is basically a very good protector of Gotham and a DC hero with great character development. He is like the ''jar'' to the pickle of Gotham. He protects Gotham from any villain intending to destroy it. He basically intends not to kill to put fear into the villains, but even after he is sent over the edge or they try to kill Batman. He will not kill them, that is what makes him different from the rest of the DC heroes.

Was that comment about Batman being a jar to the pickle of Gotham a reference to The Joker meets My Little Pony? If so, nice reference.

[ErBoi 501]

I do oppose the death penalty, yes, but for more pragmatic reasons than Batman who won't kill because he believes he would turn into a maniac if he let himself kill.  That said, I love Under the Red Hood (my favourite superhero movie, animated or otherwise, bar none) and love that climax.

On the other hand, from a writing standpoint...I think Batman killing Joker, in a situation where he tries all alternatives to no avail, would actually be a good finale to Batman's story (which obviously will never come, because comics).  He overcomes an inner demon and defeats his main, bastardized-self-reflection villain for good and effectively finishes his arc as a character in an appropriately bittersweet way.

[Blue Moon 6,341]

I do oppose the death penalty, yes, but for more pragmatic reasons than Batman who won't kill because he believes he would turn into a maniac if he let himself kill.  That said, I love Under the Red Hood (my favourite superhero movie, animated or otherwise, bar none) and love that climax.

On the other hand, from a writing standpoint...I think Batman killing Joker, in a situation where he tries all alternatives to no avail, would actually be a good finale to Batman's story (which obviously will never come, because comics).  He overcomes an inner demon and defeats his main, bastardized-self-reflection villain for good and effectively finishes his arc as a character in an appropriately bittersweet way.

Same here. I love Batman: Under the Red Hood, even more than The Dark Knight trilogy. 

 

But The Joker is almost a part of Batman. It would be very different without The Joker and personally, I don't know if Batman could do it.

[Shawn Parks 1,798]

Personally, I would be in favor of killing the Joker to prevent him from murdering more people.  I think that allowing him to run around murdering people is wrong.  Of course, I would also be in favor of crippling violent criminals so that they are physically incapable of harming anyone.  

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

Yes, I think we can all agree that Batman's moral stance against killing is inspiring and a really interesting facet of his personality when you consider the insane lengths he'll go to uphold it.

 

THAT SAID, am I the only one who thinks the code is a bit schizophrenic in the Dark Knight trilogy? I love those movies and everything, but Batman's really lax about it at times.

 

"No guns, no killing! Horrifically maiming with a vehicle is fine, but no killing! Actually, as long as it isn't on purpose, it's okay if one or two guys die as a result of the rockets you fired at them, then that's okay. Also, leaving a guy to die in a exploding train does not equal murder, so that's allowed. But if there's ever one villain that we must absolutely not kill, it's the uncontrollable anarchist who likes to blow up women and children for fun. District attorneys who should be put in a mental institution...they're not so lucky."

Edited April 28, 2013 by CITRUS KING46

[Circadian 1,273]

I personally think that Batman is completely insane. Like, he's not all there.

 

That makes his character much more interesting though.