Furry discussion thread

[Guest]

Does it really matter...

 

They are LABELS, LABELS!!!

 

Be what you want to be, and let others be what they want to be, why do we feel it necessary to label others, and to determine the differences. Will it make a difference if bronies are furries, will it really? What grand enlightenment will we discover. Will we start treating the idea of brony differently?

 

I don't give a flying feather. People enjoy what they want. Furry, brony, I look past that and see friendly faces, not labels. Labels, given by someone to themselves, helps them find others with similar interests, you can't have a label forced on you.

 

I just don't follow what the big deal is, furries don't give two craps about if bronies are a part of the furry fandom (from what I've seen). We have our undies in a bunch here worrying about something we shouldn't even care about. :/

[Ink 191]

You're only part of a fandom if you associate yourself with it. I've met many people who like MLP but don't consider themselves bronies. As for similarities between the two fandoms, I do think there are some - both are mainly dedicated to anthro animals, for example. Most furries associate themselves with a certain animal, their "fursona", which bronies don't really have an equivalent of.

 

I should know what I'm talking about, I'm part of both fandoms.

[Teh Boi 113]

Why are people getting so mad over a little name?

Brony, furry, at the end, we are all part of a big dysfunctional family that is the internet.

luv n tolreit guise

[Guest]

You're only part of a fandom if you associate yourself with it. I've met many people who like MLP but don't consider themselves bronies. As for similarities between the two fandoms, I do think there are some - both are mainly dedicated to anthro animals, for example. Most furries associate themselves with a certain animal, their "fursona", which bronies don't really have an equivalent of.

 

I should know what I'm talking about, I'm part of both fandoms.

 

Well there are "ponysonas," I have one myself, OCs are also very similar. But that aside Teh Boi put it very well, we're all just part of this big messed up family, now everyone hug.

[Ink 191]

Well there are "ponysonas," I have one myself, OCs are also very similar. But that aside Teh Boi put it very well, we're all just part of this big messed up family, now everyone hug.

 

OCs aren't really something you associate yourself with - they're just characters you make up for roleplay or other reasons. I don't really know much about ponysonas, I've heard the term a few times, didn't think it was big enough to be considered a major trait of the fandom, though.

[Elric 42]

I respectfully disagree. The issue here is that 4 out of those things apply to MANY other groups.

 

1. So are Buddhists and members of other groups and fandoms. That's a very broad statement to be making.

 

2. Every (and I do mean EVERY) fandom has that. Some have it built into the original media. The clopping side of the brony fandom is no larger than the rule 34 side of any other fandom.

 

3. I'm not entire sure what this means all the way so I'll leave it alone.

 

4. every fandom has fanfiction. People do it professionally for Star Wars (Go to the Barnes and Noble sci fi section if you don't believe me). Fanfiction is a universal thing that spans every media.

 

5. This one is true. However, They are still ponies. You can tell they are ponies. They are not entirely anthropomorphic because they lack the major physical characteristics of humans.

 

6. Comic Con. Anime Expo. Doctor Who conventions. Star Trek Conventions. Every fandom has conventions.

 

Most of your arguments are like trying to use the transitive property.

 

"pandas are fat and hairy. By using the transitive property, I deduce that I AM a panda."

Same concept.

 

Obviously that's not what you're saying. But if those factors make Bronies similar to furries, then they make them similar to every other group and fandom out there.

 

furthermore, http://yourlogicalfa...sition-division

 

Ok, I get that some of the statements were pretty broad. What I was trying to point out was that the MLP fandom and the furry fandom ARE similar. So i've narrowed it down to three major ways they are similar.

 

1. The furry fandom has a similar "love and tolerate" mentality.

2. Both fandoms have personas (fursonas and ponysonas). Basically characters made based on yourself. People make their own pony characters based on themselves. Same thing with Fursonas.

3. They both have to do with animals that have human characteristics. Ponies can't talk (human characteristic). I'm not saying they are both anthro, but they do both have animals with human characteristics.

 

 

I'm not saying the MLP fandom and the furry fandom is very closely related. But there are some things that are similar between them. Actually, all fandoms are similar to each other.

[sirseansy 87]

Ok, I get that some of the statements were pretty broad. What I was trying to point out was that the MLP fandom and the furry fandom ARE similar. So i've narrowed it down to three major ways they are similar.

 

1. The furry fandom has a similar "love and tolerate" mentality.

2. Both fandoms have personas (fursonas and ponysonas). Basically characters made based on yourself. People make their own pony characters based on themselves. Same thing with Fursonas.

3. They both have to do with animals that have human characteristics. Ponies can't talk (human characteristic). I'm not saying they are both anthro, but they do both have animals with human characteristics.

 

 

I'm not saying the MLP fandom and the furry fandom is very closely related. But there are some things that are similar between them. Actually, all fandoms are similar to each other.

 

Alrighty then. I agree wholeheartedly. So long as we agree that they are not the exact same thing.

[SugarSprinkledFox 69]

I want to copy paste something on here that I said on Tumblr.

 

"I’ve noticed some things. When people see cartoon porn, they go “OMG FURRIES!!!1!111!!”. They act like they have no flaws in their fandom (and this goes to all fandoms).

NEWS FLASH: Your fandom is just as guilty of porn as the next. There is no such thing as “your fandom has more porn than mine”, no. Your fandom probably has just as much porn.

I really think that regardless of what fandom you are from, you are going to look at porn of it. Some point in your life you are going to look up porn of something AND LIKE IT not matter your age, gender or sexuality. Everyone has this phase, whether you are either curious, horny or did it for the lulz especially for kids 13-20’s.

Just watch, the bronies claim they are against porn and in a few years they will be horny bastards wanting to fuck a pony. Then they’ll turn around and call furries sick fucks.

TL;DR: All fandoms have equal amount of porn and you are going to peek at it, and if you say no you are lying. We are all sick in the head someway or another. End of story.

/end rant

I feel like I’m going to get butthurt for this. lol"

 

Before you say shit, I think differently now. I DO think you can avoid R34 and you CAN not enjoy anything about it. But what I'm trying to say is that every fandom has the same amount of porn and you shouldn't flip the fuck out when you see it.

 

Every fandom's minority is crappy in some way and you should not act like your fandom is flawless, because it isn't.

 

I could go on and on but I will stop here.

 

Edit: Also, when I wrote that paragraph I was pissed off, Sorry about the rage.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Alex Pony

[Juju 16]

I say that no because, well, it's like if there was a huge fandom on Spongebob or something, which is not as bad. However, I do acknowledge that some bronies are also furries, therefore creating a brony subset of the furry fandom and vice-versa. Otherwise I guess it's 2 different things.

 

Think of a Venn diagram, one side being the bronies and the other being the furries.

[Ad Foedera Cresco 188]

(Okay, so to wrap it up on all that this is about, this is about the Discussion on the whole Furries vs Bronies and whether they're alike or not. I'm here to give As much Insight as possible. I'm not going to look at the statistics, just the general stuff).

 

First off is how Both Fandoms are alike:

 

Furries have something widely known as a Fursona, Bronies have something widely known as an OC Pony. Both are EXACTLY the same, they can be whatever you want, just use your imagination! the only difference is that an OC Pony is mostly centered around bieng a Pony..

 

Furries and Bronies each have their own major websites, Example is Equestria Daily and FurAffinity. Each both center around catching up on what's up to date in the Fandom and to look through what the Fandom has to offer and meeting new people. In a way, FurAffinity is a like Equestria Daily because the Furry Fandom is an art community, and F.A bieng the biggest Furry art website we have. Both websites allow members to meet new people and find out about music, artwork, etc.

 

Each Fandom has very talented musicians, writers, artists, etc.

 

Something you wouldn't expect to find that's VERY alike is the cons of the Fandoms. I think we ALL know Furries have a horrible reputation of bieng mostly Perverts (Furverts) who like to get it on to BIG Fox Badonkadonks, but Bronies have this too, also known as Cloppers. The reason there seems to be more Furverts than Cloppers is because the Brony Fandom is based on bieng a fan of a show where it teaches good moral, love, toleration, and respect for everybody. The Furry Fandom is just an art community where anything could happen. There are parts which seem very childish, but there are parts where it's like Gears of War on sterioids. Cloppers and Furverts are still very minor in each community.

 

Both Role play, both have artists, musicians, writers, journalists, bloggers, websites, and have made a mark on Mainstream society, but the only difference is that Bronies are all about bieng fan of the specific show, where Furries are a fan of a specific type of Art.

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I've been reading through some articles and posts and a lot of them are saying that "If you like MLP: FiM then you're a Brony, swag". No, just because you like the show doesn't mean you're a Brony, same with Liking Furry artwork and actually bieng a Furry. Bieng a Brony or Furry means that you accept to be called a Brony/Furry, closet Brony/Furry or not, and that you want to partake in the Fandom. Bieng a Brony doesn't mean you're a Furry but you are actually watching a "Furry" show. It wasn't made for Furries, but all the characters can be labeled a Furry, Anthropomorphic, or a Silly cartoon character. It's just that when you normally Label something "Furry" it usually means it was more for or specifically the Furry Fandom, but it's a way of calling something Anthropomorphic. Twilight, Applejack, Rarity, Fluttershy, Pinkiepie, Rainbow Dash, Tank, Opal, Owlicious, and angel are all "Furries". They're not meant for the Fandom though, ofcourse. I wouldn't really consider Winona a "Furry" because there really isn't anything Anthro about Winona, but she's still awesome!

 

Basicly, you're only a Brony/Furry if you ALLOW yourself to partake in the Fandom, no matter how much you love MLP:FiM/Anthropomorphism.

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Overall: Bronies are VERY VERY VERY Smiliar, it's just that the only thing that makes the difference is what both are centered around.

 

I did copy&Paste from an older post i've made, I hope this clears out most of this. I deleted actually, a lot of it, so not advertising, but if you want the whole thing just check one of my posts.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Trollestia-IV

[Perhaps~ 21]

Ooohhh, I have a feeling this thread is gonna spark a LOLLERCOASTER!!! If it already hasn't, that is...

[Clover Heart 978]

No. They can be, but one term does not require the other. I'm a brony, but not a furry. I like MLP. I even have an OC. However, I don't role play or even pretend to be my OC. Mine doesn't even have a back story. It's basically just a face for me on these forums. I'm not even one of the people who bothers to say things like "everypony." I just like the show. As for other animals, I have no interest in making myself into one, in any medium. A brony, I would consider, just a fan of the show who's aged out of the target demographic. A furry, on the other hand, I have the image of having a fursona, role playing, possibly owning or making a costume and possibly who enjoys yiffing. (And forgive me if I'm way off base, there. I'm not part of that subculture, so it's an outsider view.) While it's possible to be both, I feel that the terms are exclusive from one another.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Clover Heart

[Scloatch 6]

Yes. They are practically the same in my experience. Both have the same type of defense mechanisms and both create unnecessary drama. There's no doubt that bronies share at least over 50% of furry traits.

[HorseBeFruit93 27]

Bronies are very similar to furries, sure yes, we're both fandoms, we also have differances.

 

Africans, asians, indians, "white" and so on, we are all one people. Everything is relative accordingly to the scale you're looking at.

 

Our planet in this solar system, our solar system in this galaxy, our galaxy in this universe, what is it compared to the others, they're all galaxies anyways. But still two tiny atoms can be total opposites. I'm not saying any of you guys have bad arguments nor do I look down on your opinions. I just want everybody to realise this and consider it whenever they have arguments considering comparison.

 

Thank you for taking your time reading through this and I hope you don't feel more stupid now. Brohoof /)

[Palm Leaf 2]

LOL well I don't care really, half the ponys in second life are furries, if not more. I rather someone be both than an extremely wing. Saying that, I've met furries who hate ponies and ponys that want nothing to do with furries. I used to be a furry years ago. I didn't care for the new age community. Brony community seems a bit more together.

[Silver Boulder 123]

Are bronies and furries the same? No

 

I know this since I"m a furry. We are similar since really both Furries and fans of MLP AKA Bronies is just one big fandom. Furries like Anthropamorphic animals while bronies and pegasisters are just fans of the MLP Show and its characters, settings, and etc.

 

Furries and bronies are similar yes, how we're frowned upon in society and etc but there are differences

[brian577 120]

I've noticed that alot of furries have an intense dislike for bronies, why? I've heard the usual answer that we're everywhere and therefore annoying. But I've also heard some say the very same things that you would hear from an outsider, that we are weird, creepy etc. But isn't that hypocritcal? Furries have to deal with the same kinda things we do, yet they hate us?

 

My personal theory (no offense to anyone who is a furry on the board) is that they are jealous of our popularity. Think about it, we can't go a week without an article about bronies and 9 times out of 10 it's positive. When is the last time you've seen a furry article at all or had a celebrity endorse the furry fandom? We're considered by many as something to be championed and furries are still considered freaks. In a way it's really unfair and I can see why they would be upset.

 

Again this is just my personal opinion and I understand that many bronies are furries. I've just noticed this intense dislike for us from the fandom and am curious if anyone else has any theories. Especially some insight from an actual furry.

Edited August 28, 2012 by brian577

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

meh, people are always just trying to find reasons to hate.. even some bronies hate things that they shouldnt be hating..

[Ethan Pow 332]

I find this odd to hear, since I am a furry as well this odd... well there are some in the furry community that would LOVE to start drama if they had a chance

[Juggler 345]

I have never heard about furries hating bronies. Is that really that common? Bronies that hate furries on the other hand, well, I have seen that quite a lot...

Edited August 20, 2012 by Juggler

[Savato 23]

I am a furry myself and in my opinion there isn´t any actual hate against bronies in the furry fandom, at least I haven´t seen any yet...Although that jealousy-part is probably true every fandom has its idiots and well...this is the internet.

[Lucien Shadowcaster 11]

I'm a furry myself, and I strongly agree. It might be the jealousy that we get much more attention and tolerance from the outside than furries. They simply dropped too many bricks and kind of ruined their own image. We are still fresh in comparison and new, and our name is still pretty much clean.

 

I just have to say it, I'm not proud to be a furry. Simply because of all the random hate, and especially the pictures of ponies getting burned and killed.

 

I am a furry myself and in my opinion there isn´t any actual hate against bronies in the furry fandom, at least I haven´t seen any yet...Although that jealousy-part is probably true every fandom has its idiots and well...this is the internet.

 

Go to FA and look up some anti brony profiles, the pictures they have in the galleries are outrageously sadistic.

 

They could be just against it and thats it, but no, they even have to ''hunt down and kill'' us.

[Skullbuster 1,906]

ive never heard of furries hating bronies...this is new to me i cant imagine why they would, dont they go through the same prosecution that we do?

[Lucien Shadowcaster 11]

ive never heard of furries hating bronies...this is new to me i cant imagine why they would, dont they go through the same prosecution that we do?

 

Basicly? Yes. But there are simply too many idiots out there who act like they are the new age nazis of the world.

[Alleviate 342]

Ooh, this is the first time that answers to one of these questions has been answered properly, and by mainly Furries. Good.

I'm a furry/Brony too!

 

Anyway, I think that he main reason for hate is simply, The FurryFandom came way before the BronyDom, thus leading many furries to believe that they were 'copied', after all, both groups get A LOT of hate and weirdness from outsiders and haters.

 

Lets just hope this doesn't descend into chaos and arguments against furries again (Like mine did...)

I reckon you've got about week and this topic'll either be really popular and useful, full of well-thought out answers OR It'll be locked (Like two of mine!)

 

Good luck with the chaos!

 

-Joe-

 

I'd just like to add; I'm a long-standing furry, I don't hate! Hate is for haters, which I have to deal with for both of the fandoms because of my current standing.

Edited August 20, 2012 by Shardikku