Twilight Is Unfair

[Cutelestia 189]

I started to love Twilight in December 2011 and it's because of her that I got into the show. In the first episode, she is the only pony who believes in the existence of Luna, and because I was a conspiracy theorist back then, I fell in love with Twilight, because she was like me. And every time when I fell in love with a female character, I not only wanted to be with her, but I also wanted to be her. I envied Twilight everything, her body, her friends, her intelligence (Altrough I'm extremely intelligent when compared to people of my age. Not that I want to brag about it though.) It was my biggest dream to become her, she was so beautiful, especially her mane, so perfect in every way.

19 Months later, though, I realized that the way other ponies has been treated in the show is very unfair. Actually, though I got into MLP:FIM in December 2011, I never watched any episodes because I was too afraid to do so. I know, it seems strange to you, but it was like this. I watched all episodes only in May 2013. Cutie March Chronicles was such an unfair episode for me, for few reasons.

-First of all, the egg test was essentaily a Kobayashi Maru, and Twilight only passed it because of Rainbow Dash. It was so unfair and disgusting for me. Celestia only cared for Twilight and we never saw any other of her students.

-Second, it is horribly unfair how Twilight's talent is Magic itself. Altrough she is my favourite pony, this was always making me angry. Why other unicorns must have just one special talent? The whole equestria seems to be a world of Ganondorfs ruled by single Meta Knight, if you've played SSBB you will know what I mean.

-Thing that made me mad, was when Twilight became an alicorn. No, that's not bad. She deserved it for her accomplishments. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PONY IN EQUESTRIA! Alicorns are long lived, and while they aren't gods, they may be immortal. Just think about it. Celestia has the power to grant immortality to all subjects she loves. But she chooses not to, and just grant it to those who she favors. I used to love her, but now....

-What about other students of Celestia? How they will react when they see the personal diamond of Celestia being made a princess, and they will not because they have been born with wrong genes that caused less raw magic power? How fair is that?

-How come none of the mane six is angry at Celestia for not making them into alicorns? What would Twilight be without her 5 friends? NOTHING! Why are they happy that their friend is an alicorn, but they don't get anything? I actually had an idea for a fic where Pinkie and Applejack kills Twilight and Celestia because they were treated unfairly.

[Sylentmana 271]

Because Celestia didn't make Twilight and alicorn.  Twilight more or less "attained enlightenment" about the nature of friendship and ascended. Celestia only guided her to that point.  She's been grooming Twilight to be her replacement.  Even Lauren Faust said that she always intended for Twilight to replace Celestia.  The current writers thought her ascending was the best way for her to do that.  Twilight earned her wings, so to speak. Also, you may be taking this whole thing way to seriously.

[Nerdy Luigi 2,065]

Because Celestia didn't make Twilight and alicorn.  Twilight more or less "attained enlightenment" about the nature of friendship and ascended. Celestia only guided her to that point.  She's been grooming Twilight to be her replacement.  Even Lauren Faust said that she always intended for Twilight to replace Celestia.  The current writers thought her ascending was the best way for her to do that.  Twilight earned her wings, so to speak. Also, you may be taking this whole thing way to seriously.

This.

 

She really isn't all that unfair, you are just overexaggerating it, to add. This is also a little girl's show not a drama in any form.

[Cutelestia 189]

Nah, I don't make any drama, I just don't like it when a character is OP. And Twilight is my favourite pony so I'm not bashing her. I don't take it as seriously as you may think.

[Sylentmana 271]

The writers have confirmed that Twilight isn't immortal so there is nothing to worry about there.  Only Celestia and Luna are immortal, possibly because they are tied to celestial bodies, so until the sun and moon are gone, they will continue to live on.  Only season 4 will show us how Twilight's overall story arch and character will pan out.  Until then, sit back, relax, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the pony shenanigans.

[Nerdy Luigi 2,065]

Nah, I don't make any drama, I just don't like it when a character is OP. And Twilight is my favourite pony so I'm not bashing her. I don't take it as seriously as you may think.

1. Applejack- Her talent involves a great deal of physical strength.

2. Rarity- Her power pretty much IS to create camoflauge.

3. Rainbow Dash- she can run and fly faster than most if not all pegasi.

4. Fluttershy- she can literally control animals.

5. Pinkie Pie- She can play 10 instruments at a SINGLE TIME.

[Cutelestia 189]

1. Applejack- Her talent involves a great deal of physical strength.

2. Rarity- Her power pretty much IS to create camoflauge.

3. Rainbow Dash- she can run and fly faster than most if not all pegasi.

4. Fluttershy- she can literally control animals.

5. Pinkie Pie- She can play 10 instruments at a SINGLE TIME.

 

So why aren't they alicorns? What makes them worse than Twi? 

 

This is unfair, one character is just better because she is a personal animal of a Princess.

[Nerdy Luigi 2,065]

So why aren't they alicorns? What makes them worse than Twi? 

 

This is unfair, one character is just better because she is a personal animal of a Princess.

They are not as mature (for the MOST part), and also not educated in magic as an alicorn should be. As well, the only other unicorn is Rarity. And her talent as stated is clothing.

[Homura Akemi 974]

Nah, I don't make any drama, I just don't like it when a character is OP. And Twilight is my favourite pony so I'm not bashing her. I don't take it as seriously as you may think.

 

I love Twilight Sparkle and I do believe she is OP, or overpowered, as well. It isn't specifically because of the alicorn thing, but one thing is not only is she the favourite student of a goddess alicorn, but she is also her niece-in-law. It took me awhile to notice this, I admit.

[Sir.Flutter Hooves 2,953]

So why aren't they alicorns? What makes them worse than Twi? 

 

This is unfair, one character is just better because she is a personal animal of a Princess.

Because all their talents don't deserve them to become Alicorns! Just cause you run fast or control animals doesn't mean you can becme royalty. Twilight actually has something that can help many ponies with problem, and that's her magic. If you notice all the Princesses have something that contribute not only to ponies but the wide world of Equestria.

 

Celestia =The Sun (helps grow food and warms the land)

 

Luna = Controls the Moon (helps ponies sleep)

 

Cadence = Love (without love nothing could exist)

 

Twilight = Magic (basically what keeps Equestira Alive)

 

All of Twilight's friends have great talent, but not Alicorn talent.

[Cutelestia 189]

They are not as mature (for the MOST part), and also not educated in magic as an alicorn should be. As well, the only other unicorn is Rarity. And her talent as stated is clothing.

 

Exactly - being born into the wrong race means that you can't be a princess. 

 

THIS IS UNFAIR! All of the mane six should be alicorns! Or NONE!

[Sir.Flutter Hooves 2,953]

Exactly - being born into the wrong race means that you can't be a princess. 

 

 

You do know Cadence was a pegasus before she became an alicorn right? All the races it seems, that if you deserve to be an alicorn you can become one, not just unicorns.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Sir.Flutter Hooves

[Sylentmana 271]

So why aren't they alicorns? What makes them worse than Twi? 

 

This is unfair, one character is just better because she is a personal animal of a Princess.

I see that my first post was ignored. She attained alicorn status on her own.  Alicorns are like pony Buddha's. You can't be given alicorn status.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Sylentmana

[~Rainbow Dash~ 4]

I kind of agree, but I'm not going to judge and rant about Twilight for becoming an alicorn. Sure, it wouldn't have been bad if the other Mane 5 were alicorns, but think of it - why would they really need it? Rainbow Dash has no use with a horn, she's meant to fly. It wouldn't matter if Pinkie Pie was an alicorn - she already entertains ponies with no problem. Applejack doesn't have a hard time bucking apples, either. And so it goes on for the rest of the Mane 5. Twilight is supposed to replace Celestia, not the others. It's a kid show anyway, so I don't really mind.

[Smarts 1,623]

 

 

The whole equestria seems to be a world of Ganondorfs ruled by single Meta Knight

 

I will admit, I laughed pretty hard at this. Harder than I should have. Saving this line.

 

I do agree that she is too overpowered and I don't agree with her becoming an alicorn, but Celestia didn't make Twilight into an alicorn. Twilight became one because she attained the status through her experiences with friendship and magic.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,859]

I just don't agree with you. This was Twilight's destiny. The others have a destiny of their own I would imagine. If MMC and EqG are anything to go by, her friends are not jealous of her at all, they support her. Isn't that what friends do? The rest of the mane 6 have their own traits that make them special. This is just the result of Twilight's traits. Technically, this argument could be said for every other pony, not just the mane 6. What about Cadence? She was a princess before Twilight, how come SHE gets to be so special? Hmm? See, that can be used for a lot of things.

 

The way I see it, both Twilight and Cadence achieved something great. This opens the doors for the other characters to achieve something great as well down the line. Maybe not 'princess-ness' but for the character, something just as good, like Rainbow Dash becoming a Wonderbolt. Twilight being an Alicorn Princess actually suits her in my opinion. The others, not so much.

 

Also, why do people keep constantly saying that Twilight is now automatically overpowered? Have we seen ANYTHING so far to prove this? Plus, she was kinda already overpowered. Most powerful Element of Harmony ring any bells?

Edited July 25, 2013 by Kyoshi

[Galen 1,354]

 

 

-First of all, the egg test was essentaily a Kobayashi Maru, and Twilight only passed it because of Rainbow Dash. It was so unfair and disgusting for me. Celestia only cared for Twilight and we never saw any other of her students.

 

It's true that Twilight hatched the egg by coincidence, accident, whichever you want to call it, as a result of Rainbow Dash's own accomplishment, but Celestia took Twilight in because she was incredible raw potential in her rather than the fact she broke the egg. I'm guessing Celestia wanted to refine Twilight's talent so that she could use it to the best of her ability, else Twilight may have become a danger to herself in later years. This is in reference to what Twilight herself said about unicorns having sporadic bursts of magic, and someone with Twilight's potential could have possibly dangerous bursts. Consider that Twilight accidentally also turned her parents into plants and caused Spike to grow into an adult-sized dragon right after hatching him.

 

 

 

-Second, it is horribly unfair how Twilight's talent is Magic itself. Altrough she is my favourite pony, this was always making me angry. Why other unicorns must have just one special talent? The whole equestria seems to be a world of Ganondorfs ruled by single Meta Knight, if you've played SSBB you will know what I mean.

 

It's to do with Twilight's raw talent. Before the test, she was shown to be very studious from the start. One's cutie mark appears as a consequence of someone's personal interests and what they identify with. As a result of her studies, Twilight identified herself with magic itself. Additionally, cutie marks don't even represent talents, but self-identity. Twilight identifies with magic itself. That her talent is magic could well be a coincidence. Similarly with how Applejack's cutie mark is a trio of apples doesn't signify Applejack's talent of applebucking, but it represents her dedication to the Apple family, Sweet Apple Acres and generally represents her work ethic.

 

 

 

-Thing that made me mad, was when Twilight became an alicorn. No, that's not bad. She deserved it for her accomplishments. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PONY IN EQUESTRIA! Alicorns are long lived, and while they aren't gods, they may be immortal. Just think about it. Celestia has the power to grant immortality to all subjects she loves. But she chooses not to, and just grant it to those who she favors. I used to love her, but now....

 

As others have mentioned, however, it wasn't Celestia that turned her into an Alicorn. If you watch Magical Mystery Cure carefully, Twilight triggers a magical reaction once she completes the spell Starswirl the Bearded-sensei could not. In doing so, Twilight at last gains enlightenment about the magic of friendship, causing her transformation into an Alicorn. Celestia merely explained why it happened and how she had guided her throughout her learning.

 

 

 

-What about other students of Celestia? How they will react when they see the personal diamond of Celestia being made a princess, and they will not because they have been born with wrong genes that caused less raw magic power? How fair is that?

 

Well, one look at Sunset Shimmer should provide enough clarity on that matter, but also consider what I said above. It's likely none of her previous students gained such enlightenment. Even Starswirl the Bearded-sensei could not.

 

 

 

-How come none of the mane six is angry at Celestia for not making them into alicorns? What would Twilight be without her 5 friends? NOTHING! Why are they happy that their friend is an alicorn, but they don't get anything? I actually had an idea for a fic where Pinkie and Applejack kills Twilight and Celestia because they were treated unfairly.

 

Such a fanfic idea seems rather vengeful tbh. I think if they weren't happy for Twilight, it would show that their friendship was rather shallow and they wouldn't deserve to be Alicorns anyways. There is truth in your statement that Twilight would be nowhere if not for her friends, and I agree that perhaps they should also be made into Alicorns. We may get answers in season 4 but I think it's simply a matter of the others not having achieved the same level of understanding as Twilight has. As others have mentioned too, Cadence became an Alicorn after discovering the magic of love (implying even non-unicorns can delve into magic theory at the very least).

[Cutelestia 189]

And yet, I want to be Twilight. I envy her everything. I want to have her sexy, purple body and backside. I want to see her face in the mirror and have her personality.

[crazitaco 596]

I completely agree with most everything you said, but i still love twilight even if she's unfair. Even now though,  i refuse to believe that becoming an alicorn princess is what Twilight really wanted to do with her life. It's what Celestia wanted. We all saw how much Twilight admired Starswirl the Bearded, and how fanatical she is when it comes to the history of magic. Twilight's true destiny was to be some sort of professional scholar, not a princess.

 

I've ranted in the past that all of twilight's friends are equally deserving of a princess title, just as much as she is. They've all done as much as twilight has, saving equestria and proving themselves to display the characterestics of the other elements of harmony. Its amusing that people had such a bad reaction to twilicorn in the first place and had to get used to the idea to start accepting it. If it had been actually been a good idea, a majority of people would have accepted in a heartbeat and it wouldn't have become such a controversial topic like it is now. If they alicorned the other ponies, the exact same thing would happen. Denial, followed by shock, bitter acceptance, and then to everyone would start defending it. I WANT PINKIECORN, DAMMIT. this is why we can't have nice things.

 

Also, there was one weird plot continuity thing i noticed awhile back from the episode Luna Eclipsed. There's a part where Twilight starts ranting to spike about Starswirl the Bearded, and how he created over 200 spells. In MMC, Twilight earns her princesshood by writing new magic, which Celestia claims had "Never been done before." Starswirl didn't write no magic cause he didn't know friendship, says Celestia. WAT??  Unless there's a specific distinction between creating a spell and writing magic spells (i don't think there is), then that's a huge glaring error and a sign that the writers haven't been following their own pony lore, which i find quite alarming. It's even more ironic when you realize that M.A Larson wrote BOTH episodes.

 

Its not a good sign when it seems the writers aren't following their own lore and are just making stuff up with no direction. That's what happened to Lost, and in the end of the series we were left  with a convoluted, broken story with massive holes and unanswered questions. When asked what Lost was actually about, the writers basically just shrugged and went LOL, I DUNNO.

Edited July 25, 2013 by crazitaco

[Fergus Mo 21]

And yet, I want to be Twilight. I envy her everything. I want to have her sexy, purple body and backside. I want to see her face in the mirror and have her personality.

Well, that escalated quickly...

100char, what else can I say? I had kinda expected this type of thing from the start, given the awkward nature of your arguments. But it's OK; if you're not a troll, then by all means continue your...whatever you have.

 

OT: I know that Twilight becoming an alicorn while all her friends don't is kind of unfair. But look at that this way: her talent is magic, and she showed the full extent of her power with the Starswirl spell. That type of power proves she is ready to become an alicorn - her power reached a level where her body as a unicorn could not contain it any longer.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I think in some ways Twilight is unfair, maybe people will try to understand that even if she ascended into an alicorn usually she is unfair. But, I don't think it really matters.

[Nomadic 210]

Also, there was one weird plot continuity thing i noticed awhile back from the episode Luna Eclipsed. There's a part where Twilight starts ranting to spike about Starswirl the Bearded, and how he created over 200 spells. In MMC, Twilight earns her princesshood by writing new magic, which Celestia claims had "Never been done before." Starswirl didn't write no magic cause he didn't know friendship, says Celestia. WAT??  Unless there's a specific distinction between creating a spell and writing magic spells (i don't think there is), then that's a huge glaring error and a sign that the writers haven't been following their own pony lore, which i find quite alarming. It's even more ironic when you realize that M.A Larson wrote BOTH episodes.

 

Its not a good sign when it seems the writers aren't following their own lore and are just making stuff up with no direction. That's what happened to Lost, and in the end of the series we were left  with a convoluted, broken story with massive holes and unanswered questions. When asked what Lost was actually about, the writers basically just shrugged and went LOL, I DUNNO.

 

     Now I may be completely off-base here but, I always saw Starswirl as the MLP's equivalent to William Shakespeare. In that he probably wrote down much of what was commonly being used at the time, and refined it to the point where anyone could of used it. Now this is not to say that he didn't create anything new, but that all of his magic was based off the refining of an already partially understood form of magic. Where as Twilight, defined and understood a form of magic that was previously unharnassable, excluding through the elements of harmony. Now something similar to this is probably why Cadence ascended to the level of Alicorn in that she understood Love better than anyone.

 

On another note, would it really of been that desirable to have a show where all the cast is of the same pony race. While not probably fair to the other mane 6, it does tend to create a more interesting show due to the fact that there is not only personality differences but also physical differences between the mane cast which does create certain limitations between them, and leads to my biggest worry for this new season is that Twilight is going to become nothing more then a walking Deus Ex Machina in the fourth season due to her ascension.

[FruitRiver 355]

Exactly - being born into the wrong race means that you can't be a princess. 

 

THIS IS UNFAIR! All of the mane six should be alicorns! Or NONE!

 

My head cannon is this:

 

I believe everything happens for a reason. I believe in God and I think that if your passion/Desitiny requires something of you, you will be made with it. I don't think their talent are based of their race, I think their race is based of their talent. If your talent is going to be flying, then you will be BORN with wings.  And if somehow you ARE an earth pony thats special talent is magic, then you will find a way to do it. (Like Zecora!)

[Apocalyptic_Unicorn 240]

I initially disliked the idea of Princess Twilight. I couldn't put my finger on it, but it sort of bugged me.

Lately however, I realised that I disliked it because she's being put on a pedestal, with her friends on the sidelines. Its the inequality of the situation that I'm not fond of. 
Now, we've set to see how big of a part she'll play in Season 4, but all I'm worried about is that Twilight will have all the focus and attention, with her newly acquired powers being used almost exclusively to solve new problems, essentially transforming the show into a medium for Twilight to prance around, with more screen time than the rest of the Mane 6. 

Though I favoured the idea of the rest of the Mane 6 being turned into Alicorn Princesses too, I've gone off the idea because it essentially gives into fan demands, and tries to 'correct' everything, but at the cost of the show becoming meaningless.

[ReverseFaller 2,484]

I don't really care about Twilight being an Alicorn. I think it's kind of cool, actually. Twilight's my favorite pony so I'm glad to see her become one. I have a friend who insists that Twilight didn't deserve to become one. His arguement is that Twilight is too awkward to be a "princess of friendship."