Love and Tolerance in the show?

[Not_A_Replicant 109]

Love and tolerance is a widely accepted phrase in the Brony community. I've heard some that say it's our battle cry. 

 

But is the whole idea of 'love and tolerance' really about the show, or is it just an empty phrase that Bronies just like to tag along with the show just to sound politically correct?

 

I don't see any evidence of much love or tolerance in the show. The characters never seem to love each other unconditionally and I have never seen any instance of "politically correct tolerance" in the show, and especially not teaching it.

 

Personally I'm not into the whole tolerance idea. I don't think it's a good mind set to never be able to think anything about anybody, because well "its their choices, and judging them makes you a bad person."Now you could assume that I think this way because of my 'religious beliefs' (although I don't consider Christianity a religion, it's just a relationship with God) considering the fact tne Bible says that this is a worldly way to think, but honestly even if I wasn't a Christian I dont think I would agree with the the political correctness of this idea.

 

Could somebody please explain to me why Bronies have latched on to this idea and how we even came up with the thinking that it was in the show?

Edited December 8, 2013 by that_cool_nerd_js

[Jammo 986]

Mainly because our love of show is considered a deviant behaviour. (Deviant meaning against social norms not perverse)

The ideal of Love and Tolerance 1. Is a welcoming mantra for people who may feel different for,liking the show. 2. Is good PR so the rest of the world can see what we're all about. Love is something must people can get behind.

[silverreverb 129]

I think at some point somebody decided to boil down what they learned from mlp and to them that was love and tolerance. I guess that for some people that would make sense that would agree with that sentiment.

 

how it eventually got to be so widely associated with this fandom is beyond me though

Edited December 8, 2013 by silverreverb

[Scootalove 10,689]

People wanted to use what they learned from the show, to put it into what they stand by and use it as an example to tolerate with anyone feels different about liking or watching the show. It is a saying or a motto that people get behind to prove a point.

[KatieHooves 51]

Friendship is love and tolerance. Compassion, generosity, honesty, loyalty, and laughter are all acts of friendship and love. Being a good friend is accepting the flaws and differences and others. All of this is shown quite well in the show and I would say friendship and tolerance are two of the main themes of the show.

[Philocleon 27]

Love and tolerance are integral parts of friendship and that is part of what makes friendship magic.

[Gay Bird 421]

This phrase originated when the show was a joke and the trolls on 4chan were trying to be funny. As the fandom began to rise, it started to become accepted by ignorant fans and eventually became the slogan it is now. It really doesn't mean anything and it actually kind of annoys me.

[A Jewel of Rarity 207]

Love and tolerance are integral parts of friendship and that is part of what makes friendship magic.

^^^^^^^^^ what did guy said. true story

[FNGRpony 658]

^^^^^^^^^ what did guy said. true story

i was gonna debate you but your sig totally  distracted me.  stupid sexy luna.

 

....oh yeah, love and tolerance are not integral to friend ship.

Gilda and rainbow were friends.

 

Not all friend ships are based on love and tolerance.

 

Diamond tiara and silver spoons.

and i'm sure there are more ponies like that in Equistra on undoubtedly.

[Nature's Spell 526]

Equestria is not a Utopia and I wound't want it to be. We could point out several times in the show where the ponies are mean, xenophobic, racist, you name it. The difference is that they learn from their mistakes and over all the society is peaceful. People do their duty, follow their destiny. Bronies latched on to that phrase for the reasons given, but the ponies by no means live it. They screw up too.

[FNGRpony 658]

Equestria is not a Utopia and I wound't want it to be. We could point out several times in the show where the ponies are mean, xenophobic, racist, you name it. The difference is that they learn from their mistakes and over all the society is peaceful. People do their duty, follow their destiny. Bronies latched on to that phrase for the reasons given, but the ponies by no means live it. They screw up too.

 

their are nuggets of "reality" (evil if you wanna be dark about it) in mlp.

but that's just it, the relative amount of "reality" and or "evil" is utopia level.

 

Our world

Kid shoots up yet another school and the hardened masses shake their heads

Mlp world

Some SOB ate the last cup cake.  The cutie mark crusaders got made fun by Dt AND S.S.

 

so yes I understand why fans would think it's heaven.  It's why i like DT.

IF this is one of worse things hear,

your alright^^.

[Not_A_Replicant 109]

This phrase originated when the show was a joke and the trolls on 4chan were trying to be funny. As the fandom began to rise, it started to become accepted by ignorant fans and eventually became the slogan it is now. It really doesn't mean anything and it actually kind of annoys me.

 

It annoys me too, whenever I see a Brony posting that, it just kinda makes me want to throw up.

Friendship is love and tolerance. Compassion, generosity, honesty, loyalty, and laughter are all acts of friendship and love. Being a good friend is accepting the flaws and differences and others. All of this is shown quite well in the show and I would say friendship and tolerance are two of the main themes of the show.

 

Give me some examples. I don't see any evidence of tolerance being a main theme. In my opinion I don't necessarily think tolerance is the key to friendship. My friends don't accept the fact that I'm a Brony, they just try to ignore it. There's a big difference between accepting and ignoring. Love, I can understand, but tolerance I just don't think so.

Edited December 10, 2013 by that_cool_nerd_js

[ShadOBabe 19,011]

their are nuggets of "reality" (evil if you wanna be dark about it) in mlp.

but that's just it, the relative amount of "reality" and or "evil" is utopia level.

 

Our world

Kid shoots up yet another school and the hardened masses shake their heads

Mlp world

Some SOB ate the last cup cake.  The cutie mark crusaders got made fun by Dt AND S.S.

 

so yes I understand why fans would think it's heaven.  It's why i like DT.

IF this is one of worse things hear,

your alright^^.

 

Uh... yeah...

Also, you know... the potential blocking out of the sun. Or amplifying it.

Chaos entities turning reality upside down.

Shape-shifting invaders that siphon out your emotions.

And apparently hired thugs are a thing now, so I can only assume we also have organized crime.

Slavery under Sombra.

 

Lack of cupcakes and bullying aren't the extent of the MLP world's problems.

[FNGRpony 658]

Uh... yeah...

Also, you know... the potential blocking out of the sun. Or amplifying it.

Chaos entities turning reality upside down.

Shape-shifting invaders that siphon out your emotions.

And apparently hired thugs are a thing now, so I can only assume we also have organized crime.

Slavery under Sombra.

 

Lack of cupcakes and bullying aren't the extent of the MLP world's problems.

 

The magical amount.

 

just enough chaos, pain, and suffering, to keep the mind from trying to wake up from a delusional dream.

 

 

why yes.  perfection my friend is perception.  perception is reality.

 

Do you think any human physically or mentally could endure, a sugary sweet, perfect world?

We're creatures defined by suffering.

 

it's why most bronies assume we'd make equistra a worse place.

 

easily.

Edited December 11, 2013 by FNGRpony

[ShadOBabe 19,011]

why yes.  perfection my friend is perception.  perception is reality.

 

Do you think any human physically or mentally could endure, a sugary sweet, perfect world?

We're creatures defined by suffering.

 

it's why most bronies assume we'd make equistra a worse place.

 

easily.

I don't disagree with these statements, but I'm not sure what they have to do with anything. You said that lack of cupcakes and a bit of bullying where the extent of Equestria's problems. I said they weren't.

What are you trying to get at?

[FNGRpony 658]

I don't disagree with these statements, but I'm not sure what they have to do with anything. You said that lack of cupcakes and a bit of bullying where the extent of Equestria's problems. I said they weren't.

What are you trying to get at?

the worst day in pony land wouldn't break our top 20.

 

yes bad things happen.  Much like in the wizard of oz.  Sure theirs some crazy green broad trying to kill you and your 3 magical friends,

vs back home your losing the farm, and some mean bitch is trying to take your dog away.

 

most people would take the witch.

is that nutty?

the grass is always greener on the other side ^^

Edited December 11, 2013 by FNGRpony

[Static Electricity 729]

perfect world?

I'm sorry, do you honestly believe Equestria is some sort of idealistic Utopia?

[FNGRpony 658]

I'm sorry, do you honestly believe Equestria is some sort of idealistic Utopia?

is a utopia a catch all?

 

Some people imagine heaven on earth is hawaii.  Granted at this time of year i'd be hard pressed to argue,

some would prefer any area that'sa  mecha of technology is their to be their utopia.

 

Okay want me rain on my own parade?

 

I'd have to likely learn how to make animals go missing for diet reasons (I'm not giving up meat)

but that's it static.  I'm prepared to bend their reality till it's cozy ^^.  It's called being evil.

For all the goodie, goodie bronies out there no, it likely would not be a total utopia.

 

Sure i'd lose gobs, and gobs, and gobs of technology, and the debauchery that comes with that tech.  (pretty much 80 percent of the internet).

 

So if i got past the smut and the meat (and yes that is alot)

I think it would be pretty awesome.

 

but than again I think i could had a hell of a good time as Light yagami from death note,

 

up until i got busted.

but being a bad guy i'm only suppose to think in the short term.  Correct?

[King Sejong 859]

   While love and tolerance have become redundant and clichéd, we can at least agree it is an core value, whether the ponies are aware of that or not, or for that matter bronies. I would substitute love and tolerance, with friendship and community, for most of the show's plot and story stems around friendship and community. The mane six do tolerate each other, yet they are a close knit group, that talk and do things together, despite character flaws and conflict, Rainbow Dash had trouble tolerating Pinkie Pie, then they began to prank other ponies and each other all in good fun, thus the relationship between Rarity and Applejack had tension, then they came together various times in season two and three, the resilience and endurance of the friendship, in spite of differences in background and character they form a wonderful friendship. Community, no society is perfect, yet despite the ponies diversity in professions and goals, they band together to wrap up winter, make the leaves fall in the autumn, numerous celebratory festivals and holidays, the ponies put aside their flaws then contribute their talents for the benefit of somepony else, well the ponies even saved Sweet Apple Acres form Flim and Flam, it's nice to see how the ponies interact with each other, from resolving conflict to ordinary converse, the pony desire for society is mirrored by our own zeal for friendship and community, so I end by saying love and tolerance is valued, the core aspect of the ponies are friendship and community.    

[Flight 11 89]

Humans will never have world peace (Not forever atleast) because many countries are bi-products of war. Humans have it in their nature to fight. But you know what *can* happen? Tolerance. No, not everyone will be tolerant and honest, or generous and friendly, but a little goes a long way. If we all give a little to each other, we all get a lot

 

TL;DR: inspirational speech bro

[~Vallo~ 409]

The term "love and tolerance" was used in 2010-2011 on 4chan as a response to people getting angry over the massive pony flood. It was never meant to be taken literally. Just throwing that out there for people who are hyper-sensitive to any form of criticism within this fandom.   

Edited December 14, 2013 by ~Vallo~

[FNGRpony 658]

The term "love and tolerance" was used in 2010-2011 on 4chan as a response to people getting angry over the massive pony flood. It was never meant to be taken literally. Just throwing that out there for people who are hyper-sensitive to any form of criticism within this fandom.   

well if it came from 4 chan, it being part of the pony dom is highly dubious lol.

[~Vallo~ 409]

well if it came from 4 chan, it being part of the pony dom is highly dubious lol.

Yes, it came from 4chan (which is where the fandom started) and it was used as a "counter-troll" to people who were angry about the sudden obsession with ponies, and then (for lack of better description) clueless people started using it with sincerity.