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I hate to depart from the original post too much, but I have to disagree about chaos. Chaos is needed for change only when people do not see the intrinsic value in improving the human conditions without need but because we can benefit as individuals and as a whole. 

In that case, head on over to the thread "Chaos: Is it Really Evil? And we'll continue that thread in the proper place. But I do have more to say on the subject. That being said, what do you think of the other points in that quoted post?

 

@, I fully agree. These are precisely the points which I would have stated.

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