TheMarkz0ne 962 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 I have been committed several times before in 2012 and I will not get into why. But I absolutely hated being locked away in there for a accumulated time of a month and half. The doctors treated me like a little kid, They would kick me off the tv at midnight. When you demand being treated like a person they get 5 people surrounding you. Overall it was awful and I'm glad I am not there anymore. Do you think it's a waste of time and money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleGearRising 526 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 Well I can't say for sure but given that it is meant to be a place of rehabilitation I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it, granted not all cases should be treated the same way and I do think it is a little unfair to have condescending doctors. Avatar courtesy of @Unicorn Coffee ~My very special somepony~ <3 "Whenever there is a meeting, a parting is sure to follow. However, that parting need not last forever..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwigglySwiggly 358 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 They've been know to "work" and its an efficient way of rehabilitating people. Sure its not perfect but its better than having nothing. They would kick me off the tv at midnight How is that a bad thing? Click on the links!: Here! & Here! Check out my drawings! ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 January 30, 2014 Author Share January 30, 2014 They've been know to "work" and its an efficient way of rehabilitating people. Sure its not perfect but its better than having nothing. How is that a bad thing? Because I don't like strangers telling me what to do. Especially when I'm an adult and can sleep when I want to. TV is all you have there, aside from the counselors and doctors having meetings with the patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 They are somewhat necessary. Some people can be extremely dangerous to both themselves and others. Ofc there are cases where patients in such places are not treated very well but some places do take care of them. I've even heard of people commiting themselves to such places, so scared that they might do something reckless. My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeleton Kin 385 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 Well yeah of course, why wouldn't they? A normal prison would both be dangerous for the patient and the prisoners because of the fact that they may be mentally unstable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 Mental hospitals or as an alternative name psychiatric hospitals, treat anyone who has a mental and do their best to help their patients who are in need of help and to help those who could pose as a significant danger to themselves and others. I think they are necessary since they help the mentally ill, at least it is better than the lunatic asylums back in the old days. 3 Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 January 30, 2014 Author Share January 30, 2014 I'm against the idea of people forcing someone into something. It's different from convicted felonies where people should be incarcerated. When I was in a state hospital in Boston they wouldn't let me leave until they put me into a facility. I waited 14 hours from 8PM onward to go to a mental ward. I told the doctor I wanted to leave before they passed me a wavier. I asked if I could leave and he said "no" so why bother having me sign some insurance wavier if you already made the decision for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwigglySwiggly 358 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 @@TheMarkz0ne, You seem more annoyed at the hospital you have been to rather then concerned about the actual flaws if has. 1 Click on the links!: Here! & Here! Check out my drawings! ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 January 30, 2014 Author Share January 30, 2014 @@TheMarkz0ne, You seem more annoyed at the hospital you have been to rather then concerned about the actual flaws if has. It is an actual flaw. Because I'm not hurting anybody nor have I harmed anyone during my stay there. They also made false promises about me leaving early! They would extend my stay and never give a legitimate reason why they did that. The medication also made me light headed and made me feel like I lost self awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Question 69 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 As a psychologist I know how bad these places can be. Psychiatry itself is very very good thing and useful and among all types of psychology- one of the closest one to real science. Yet mental hospitals are in horrible condition, at least in Poland where I live. Sometimes it really is necessary to lock people there but everything else that's going on there is usually seriously sick. For example they lock quite healthy people wth insane ones and it only makes things worse. x.x To not mention what they do with schizophreniacs... It seems like these places have potential but it will take insane amount of changes to make them what they really should be. 1 Adventure and danger, love from a stranger, Let me be surprised! Johari Window for lulz: http://kevan.org/johari?name=burningquestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeleton Kin 385 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 The medication also made me light headed and made me feel like I lost self awareness. that's the point of the medicine, it's so that they don't struggle putting you to bed and that there won't be much problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 January 30, 2014 Author Share January 30, 2014 I have asperger's syndrome and they speculated I have schizophrenia, but they never concluded it. Also psych medication a good thing? seriously! First off I know this will sound off topic but the word pharmacy in the greek means "Pharmakos" which means sorcery and witchcraft...Not beam beam and pew pew magic. It's mind control and manipulation. Psych meds shut down areas of the brain and delay cognition. How is that a good thing? Because people who have a history of prolonged exposure have severe mental issues. We should stick to eating healthy and learning to love one another instead of pill popping and ignoring the problem. Treat the cause, not the symptom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscordAnarchy 770 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 I've heard fairy tales of mental hospitals but I've never seen them. I hear they appear during a full moon when the clouds are filling the sky and if they bite you, you become mental hospital. 4 Just what is a Nega Brony? Click the Sig to find out! Want to join the movement? Add Nega-Brony to your sig or profile to show support for the MLP Villains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningFlash 214 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 If the person is in a critical enough state and there is nothing else then I believe that it's the answer if it helps the person. Credit to Lunia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoroChii 284 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 I think that it's important and can really help people. One of my bestfriends has been to one before and she's said she loved it, so I think it really depends on the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theshadowmaster235 70 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 I've never been to one myself but from what I've seen and heard about them they are places of evil now I will admit some people need help but others are wrongfully put into these places and sometimes their in there even longer than the ones who need to be there. I'm pretty sure some people would like to lock every brony alive in one of those places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePony 484 January 30, 2014 Share January 30, 2014 Ok so I wanna shed some light on an interesting perspective.. It is thought that normal Human's use only 10% of their brain power. 90% is wasted. Now my theory is people with sever autism, turrets, different things like that. Any person with any sort of 'mental deficiency', is not in fact lacking. We often set them up with extra care because they 'need' it... I have worked with some of these people. I have worked with people who have been deemed insane. I knew a guy who was locked up because he believed himself to be an orange tree. Many of these people are far smarter than us! They are good with numbers and interpenetrating in ways we often can not understand. What if all of this is because they are using more of their brain? The way we see something is through particles vibrating very fast. Now suppose they see these particles moving at different rates. They are able to see things, or hear things that we can not, determine faster than us through a brain process that we can not identify because we are not capable of this feat. Normal people can not use more than 10%. Think about it, they really are seeing something that is there, in a different dimension. Same world but they are able to shift between dimensions. Now we lock them up and say they are wrong. They are not wrong, they are gifted with unique abilities. My lovely OC's Aixi~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/aixi-r5373 Horus~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/horus-maneson-r5524 Noir~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/noir-r5527 http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/shiera-r5702 My Shop, link http://mlpforums.com/topic/85322-purple-ponies-commissions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freewave 1,145 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 I have asperger's syndrome and they speculated I have schizophrenia, but they never concluded it. Also psych medication a good thing? seriously! First off I know this will sound off topic but the word pharmacy in the greek means "Pharmakos" which means sorcery and witchcraft...Not beam beam and pew pew magic. It's mind control and manipulation. Psych meds shut down areas of the brain and delay cognition. How is that a good thing? Because people who have a history of prolonged exposure have severe mental issues. We should stick to eating healthy and learning to love one another instead of pill popping and ignoring the problem. Treat the cause, not the symptom. Sounds like you should have seen a shrink or done self-therapy vs getting yourself admitted. But if you get placed there (as you said you won't tell us what for) then its certainly not a good place to be, especially if you have a problem with that authority (which you might have had). Short answer is they help people who are a danger to themselves or to others others and the best way not to get stuck in there is not to do actions to be placed in there in the first place. If you cna take care of yourself then its your responsibility to do that. Generalizing hospitals or medicine as "bad" is really missing the societal need for them and that's bigger then one former patient's negative opinion on them. Ok so I wanna shed some light on an interesting perspective.. It is thought that normal Human's use only 10% of their brain power. 90% is wasted. Now my theory is people with sever autism, turrets, different things like that. Any person with any sort of 'mental deficiency', is not in fact lacking. We often set them up with extra care because they 'need' it... I have worked with some of these people. I have worked with people who have been deemed insane. I knew a guy who was locked up because he believed himself to be an orange tree. Many of these people are far smarter than us! They are good with numbers and interpenetrating in ways we often can not understand. What if all of this is because they are using more of their brain? The way we see something is through particles vibrating very fast. Now suppose they see these particles moving at different rates. They are able to see things, or hear things that we can not, determine faster than us through a brain process that we can not identify because we are not capable of this feat. Normal people can not use more than 10%. Think about it, they really are seeing something that is there, in a different dimension. Same world but they are able to shift between dimensions. Now we lock them up and say they are wrong. They are not wrong, they are gifted with unique abilities. A theory doesn't mean a thing until its proven tho. What basis or facts do you really have for any of what you said....whats gets a person institutionalized is they don't have the capacity to have a job and care for themslves. They may be smart or gifted in other ways but severely lacking in others (See Rain man as an example). It's where they are lacking that is ultimately what stops them from being self suffiecient. Do i think that most of the people in institutions are gifted with using more of their brains, see alternate dimensions, and are generally smarter then most of us? No. Why would I.....? I have made brony music since 2011. I like all kinds of music and genres. I'm sure you'll like some of it.. Here's My YouTube..I have several albums on Bandcamp and Pony.FM. Check out the 20+ Musician project Maressey which I am running. Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal to all things Brony + Music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Question 69 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 It is thought that normal Human's use only 10% of their brain power. 90% is wasted. Ehhhh, I'm sorry to bring it to you but it's a myth. Adventure and danger, love from a stranger, Let me be surprised! Johari Window for lulz: http://kevan.org/johari?name=burningquestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePony 484 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 Sounds like you should have seen a shrink or done self-therapy vs getting yourself admitted. But if you get placed there (as you said you won't tell us what for) then its certainly not a good place to be, especially if you have a problem with that authority (which you might have had). Short answer is they help people who are a danger to themselves or to others others and the best way not to get stuck in there is not to do actions to be placed in there in the first place. If you cna take care of yourself then its your responsibility to do that. Generalizing hospitals or medicine as "bad" is really missing the societal need for them and that's bigger then one former patient's negative opinion on them. A theory doesn't mean a thing until its proven tho. What basis or facts do you really have for any of what you said....whats gets a person institutionalized is they don't have the capacity to have a job and care for themslves. They may be smart or gifted in other ways but severely lacking in others (See Rain man as an example). It's where they are lacking that is ultimately what stops them from being self suffiecient. Do i think that most of the people in institutions are gifted with using more of their brains, see alternate dimensions, and are generally smarter then most of us? No. Why would I.....? Brain Experiments should be an everyday occurrence. We could do brain experiments on mice, rats, or frogs, not to mention we could do more Human Brain Experiments on Cadavers, and I'd be willing to bet you could find an endless supply of Living participants that would gladly sign a release for Science to Do Human Brain Experiments on them. With all the Technology that we have, and peoples thirst for knowledge it looks like we would do more brain Experiments in the world Today. Look at the Possibilities of Brain Experimentation and how it could impact our world. Imagine a Human brain Experiment that went perfect and Science was able to tap into the other 90% of our Brain. Can you imagine how smart that person would be, now can you imagine where technology would go!! We are only bound by our dreams, if you can dream it and imagine doing it (actually working up plan to do it) I am convinced you can do it. Our ability to comprehend the things we don't know should outweigh the ability to comprehend the things that we do know. I don't really know if that's the case in Human Brain Technology. I know Human Brain Experimentation going on but it's not on a Scale that it Should Be. Human brain experimentation I don't think is Immoral, or should even be questioned as such...IF God didn't want us to be smart he wouldn't of give us the ability to learn and manipulate our environment and evolve and better ourselves. Human Brain Experimentation...The way of the Future! So instead of ostracizing them, why don't we experiment? We have so much to learn from willing participants. My lovely OC's Aixi~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/aixi-r5373 Horus~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/horus-maneson-r5524 Noir~http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/noir-r5527 http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/shiera-r5702 My Shop, link http://mlpforums.com/topic/85322-purple-ponies-commissions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon 4,557 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 Like any sort of facility where you're taking away someone's freedoms, it's a necessary evil. There are really bad facilities and really good ones out there... it's sort of a luck of the draw. That being said, as bad as the facilities can be, there are just some times that someone needs to be separated from the rest of the community for a little bit. I definitely think that the system needs some reforms, but I do think that these types of facilities or some other way of temporarily keeping people separated from others or protected from themselves is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrierCosmique 146 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 In 1st and 2nd grade I was in a psychatric hospital for half a year because I have Asperger syndrome, a severe disorder that causes odd behavior, emotional disturbance, obsessive interests and loss of reality, during elementary school I had to take medications against it, later it went to bad that I had to go to a special needs school, some months ago under certain circumstances people tried to trick me into going to psychatry by free choice but I said no, I had a lot of fighting with my parents because I lost my so-called "work", which wanted to send me into psychatry too because shortly before I developed re-occuring insane thoughts and irrational aggressions, but I went out of trouble somehow, too. Now I have to go into a therapy because I act really weird and loose reality often due to that disorder. After that I either will go to school or search for work, get thrown out by my parents or flee from involuntary psychatry, both resulting in me having starve or freeze to death on the streets or commit suicide to end all of this. Currently I have no money again, few if any friends and my only real joy is consuming and writing science fiction/space opera. 1 Alex, Alex! You're walking away from history! History! Did Chris Columbus say he wanted to stay home? No! What if the Wright Brothers thought that only birds should fly? And did Galoka think that the Yulus were too ugly to save? -- Centauri to Alex Rogan; "The Last Starfighter" (1984) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks 10,816 January 31, 2014 Share January 31, 2014 When I was first diagnosed with Autism at age 2 the doctor reccomended I be institutionalized, this same doctor thought I was mentally retarded when a later IQ test revealed my IQ was above average. Thankfully my parents didn't listen to him, granted we have come a very long way but the answer in far too many cases is to either drug people institutionalize them or both when in most cases there are other options. Most people that are mental institutions do not belong there, granted there are some extreme cases where someone is a threat to themselves or others institutinoalization should be an absolute last resort and how these places are run needs a complete overhall. 1 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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