I think all princesses who don't deserve their status to be removed as one.

[Silver Star 60]

Sorry for saying this, but I think any alicorn princesses who did nothing to earn it to be stripped of their powers, and made back into normal ponies, that is, one of the three normal types, earth pony, pegasus, or unicorn. Maybe just Princess Celestia, and Luna should be the only princesses, though, maybe Cadence deserves the title as well, but not Twilight Sparkle.

So, 2 is ok, 3 might be as well, but 4 is a little much.

[Sir Xarthas VI 470]

Well if you would actually watch the show and realize that Twi has actually earned her Princess title, instead of being born an Alicorn like Celestia and Luna (I can't remember if Candence was born an Alicorn or not). And besides, she apparently holds a great deal of magical power inside her that she can't yet access, and as such, her being an Alicorn has unlocked some of it.

[Ribbonfree 2,383]

Cadence wasn't born an alicorn, like Twilight she unlocked it through a deed of signiificance. Heck, we can't even say if that's how Tia and Luna became alicorns or not, there haven't been episodes detailing their childhoods. So... No, I don't agree. All active Princesses have earned the right to be Princesses. If you notice in Twilight Time, Twilight's already beginning to show the seeds of wisdom and the capability to mentor like the other Princesses can.

[Moonlight 7,287]

All of them seem to deserve their status. It could be assumed that Cadence earned her alicorn rank just like Twilight did. And Twilight certainly deserved being crowned a princess, showing she could handle herself in tough situations, with or without her friends, her strong leadership skills, her love of knowledge, and just being a kind, respected pony shows that she deserves it. Besides, when addressed with her alicornhood so far, she's been acting very mature and respectful. All 4 of them deserve their rank, and they definitely should not be changed back to a pegasus, unicorn, or earth pony, it's pointless to go through such a big change and then just take it away like that. 

[OptimisticNeighsayer 478]

Celestia obviously thought Twilight deserved it, and who's to question her?

 

How do you figure Twilight doesn't deserve it?  She's definitely shown that she has the capabilities to be a great leader in Season 4, (see PTS and Twilight Time) and hay, even the circumstances in which she got her title are rather commendable despite Celestia planning it from the get-go.  Twilight clearly demonstrated an understanding of friendship throughout both her time in Ponyville and in completing Starswirl's spell.

 

Cadence wasn't born an alicorn, like Twilight she unlocked it through a deed of signiificance. Heck, we can't even say if that's how Tia and Luna became alicorns or not, there haven't been episodes detailing their childhoods. So... No, I don't agree. All active Princesses have earned the right to be Princesses. If you notice in Twilight Time, Twilight's already beginning to show the seeds of wisdom and the capability to mentor like the other Princesses can.

I think it's Word of God that Celestia and Luna have always been alicorns, but who knows...

[Wubsie 1,123]

Well if you would actually watch the show and realize that Twi has actually earned her Princess title, instead of being born an Alicorn like Celestia and Luna (I can't remember if Candence was born an Alicorn or not). And besides, she apparently holds a great deal of magical power inside her that she can't yet access, and as such, her being an Alicorn has unlocked some of it.

I haven't watched any of s4 but I believe she's not at that point yet.

Alicorn is almighty status, Godlike.

I feel like it was too early to give her that gargantuan ass title.

That's just my opinion.

[Sugar Pea 2,682]

To be fair, Twilight did earn her title as an alicorn, for she is Celestia's student. Not only that, she saved many ponies with her wits and talent. Thus, it proves her worthy...AND before I forget, she figured out the spell that even Star Swirl couldn't...and he was an all knowing unicorn!

[AnonBrony 1,468]

What? Twilight not deserving to become a Princess? How? Why not!? She has done many great things in her time in ponyville and you know saved it twice. She studied for days upon days and excelled at magic as well as learning the true meaning of friendship and leadership, as well as learning maybe other valuable lessons. She has learned and worked plenty hard in her life and definitely deserve to be one.

 

Same as the other princesses. Now I don't know what Cadence did... But I am sure she earned the title as well, besides she rules over the Crystal Empire now. I think they all deserve their title and should be able to stay princess and Alicorns.

[Cloud Runner 26]

Does anyone know why Cadence is a princess? I feel like she did nothing to deserve her powers (nor did TS). I'm a relatively new brony and don't really know if Cadence was introduced just so they could have someone to rule the Chrystal Empire, if so a back story would be nice.

[OptimisticNeighsayer 478]

Does anyone know why Cadence is a princess? I feel like she did nothing to deserve her powers (nor did TS). I'm a relatively new brony and don't really know if Cadence was introduced just so they could have someone to rule the Chrystal Empire, if so a back story would be nice.

No, Cadence was introduced to be Shining Armor's new wife, Twilight's old foalsitter, and to sell toys.  

Apparently there is a book that explains Cadence's backstory.  I've never read it and don't even know the title.  All I know is that she was born a pegasus, and that her cutie mark has something to do with it.  Not helpful, yes, but at least it could be a start for all those who question Cadence's desserts. (Yum...)  

[UserNotFound 964]

No, Cadence was introduced to be Shining Armor's new wife, Twilight's old foalsitter, and to sell toys.  

Apparently there is a book that explains Cadence's backstory.  I've never read it and don't even know the title.  All I know is that she was born a pegasus, and that her cutie mark has something to do with it.  Not helpful, yes, but at least it could be a start for all those who question Cadence's desserts. (Yum...)

 

It's called Princess Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell and I believe Cadance earned her princess title by understanding the magic of love, like twilight understands the magic of friendship...

[Solar Cloud 493]

Twilight did earn her Princesshood. She showed that she fully understood friendship. She is still learning about the duties and status that come with the title but so far she handled being a princess very well.

[Wind Chaser 4,768]

Sorry for saying this, but I think any alicorn princesses who did nothing to earn it to be stripped of their powers, and made back into normal ponies, that is, one of the three normal types, earth pony, pegasus, or unicorn. Maybe just Princess Celestia, and Luna should be the only princesses, though, maybe Cadence deserves the title as well, but not Twilight Sparkle.

So, 2 is ok, 3 might be as well, but 4 is a little much.

So MAYBE we should strip them of their titles, but maybe NOT?

 

I understand the symbolic duality of just Celestia and Luna. However, Cadance was made an alicorn because alicorns make more expensive toys than unicorns (which Cadance was originally planned to be) and Twilight for the same reason, except that Twilight's ascension also happened to make sense within the narrative of the show. Cadance's alicorn status does not make narrative sense unless her backstory is ever explained in canon, or if her backstory from the GM Berrow books is canonized.

[Silver Star 60]

Maybe, but I still don't think she earned it. She isn't even part of the royal family, that if there is one, Cadence isn't even too. The Royal Family of Equestria is only Celestia and Luna, I think, maybe Blueblood, but him, not so sure. He isn't even an alicorn. What I think a pony needs to show to be worthy of the title Princess or Prince is good leadership, being able to stay calm in a crisis, and need to be caring of their subjects. Twilight Sparkle might be a good leader, but can she rule an entire kingdom? Cadence cares about her subjects, but she didn't show any leadership. These are just my opinion, they could be right, and they could be wrong. Both Celestia and Luna are good leaders, capable for being calm in a crisis, and are very caring about their subjects. They both deserve the title.

So MAYBE we should strip them of their titles, but maybe NOT?

 

I understand the symbolic duality of just Celestia and Luna. However, Cadance was made an alicorn because alicorns make more expensive toys than unicorns (which Cadance was originally planned to be) and Twilight for the same reason, except that Twilight's ascension also happened to make sense within the narrative of the show. Cadance's alicorn status does not make narrative sense unless her backstory is ever explained in canon, or if her backstory from the GM Berrow books is canonized.

Making them princesses just to sell more expensive toys? That is a stupid reason. So, but it is. If I was the head of Hasbro, Cadence will be just either an unicorn or a pegasus, and Twilight Sparkle remains an unicorn forever. She can be like the great unicorn sage of the era, but not an alicorn. She is smarter than Starswirl the Bearder, I guess, so she could be the Starswirl the Bearded of the modern era. That might works well. Makes more sense to me.

[Cwanky 17,600]

Alicorn Twilight is the hero Equestria needs, but not the one it deserves. So we'll hate her.

[King Sejong 859]

   First off, I think the naval officers I knew, who got their rank and didn't deserved it should have been removed, as they received their rank's beyond their abilities to execute the job or the mission. That is life, sometimes it gives you a fair hand, or you end up with a joker in the deck, but removing someone from their position is not always that easy, and clearly the ponies have different rules, traditions and standards from our moral plain, so if the pony didn't earn the title of "Princess" what are you going to do? Write a fan fiction, to do thyself justice, to appease your personal bias for the princess, or would you just accept the princess, cooperate then compromise with the princess on important issues, rather than quarrel and behave like a spoiled brat, like our congress or someone's parliament do on a daily bases, so whether they earned that title or not, it does not matter how they govern, it matters who you govern your own existence, and if they did not earn it state your case and evidence, or just dismiss yourself, because jealously does not prosper us, nor anyone else, Princess Twilight Sparkle earned her title, and Cadence earned it in a novel, so maybe check your envy at the door, and leave the vitriolic rantings for someone better at dissident.        

[Shanks 10,816]

I hated the idea of twilicorn I really did because it was too soon and handled poorly but just turning her back into a unicorn at this point would be just as bad as turning her into an alicorn because it would be a fandom dues ex machina where they go "oh shit they don't like it, lets turn her back" which would solving the lazy writing of Magical Mystery Cure with more lazy writing which would be like pouring gasoline on a burning building. Now that they have done it makes sense to do everything possible to make it work, the season premier and one of the more recent episode did a fairly good job but we still don't know much more about it than we did before.It would make even less sense for Cadence because she was introduced as an alicorn, granted Lauren Faust originally intended her to be a unicorn but it is too late for that now and in this one novel about Cadence's origin says she was a pegasus before her ascension. And how do we know that Celestia and Luna "earned" their alicornhood anyway? We don't know if they were ascended like Twilight and Cadence or if they were born alicorns. We know this much though and it is that Celestia and Luna are a bit different from Twilight and Cadence suggesting that there are probably different classes of alicorn.

[FirestormCAN 246]

I'm sorry, what? Cadance and Twilight didn't earn their titles? Am I missing something here?

 

I haven't read Crystal Heart Spell, but I can at least tell you that Twilight did indeed earn that title. She's spent much of her life as Celestia's pupil, learning much about friendship that no other pony, even powerful unicorns Starswirl the Bearded or Sunset Shimmer, could figure out. And as we all know, friendship in this world is a powerful magic, both figuratively and literally. She's been through so much over these four seasons, tackling every challenge that blocks her way, helping the others as a result. And in the end, Celestia rewarded all that hard work by adding her to the royal family. And as I've said before, it'll take some time for her to find what authority she'll eventually have.

 

Besides, if the book explains Cadance's ascension, then that's good enough for me. Sure it may sound stupid but lemme remind you: world of magic. Equestria's got different rules than ours. Dumb as they may look to some people, this is what we've got to work with in the main canon. If you don't like it, then tough break. It's too late to turn back now, so if you want to be happy, you should probably either have to 1) accept it, 2) write an alternate universe fic, or 3) leave the series altogether. Everything happens for a reason, now matter how brilliant or stupid they are. The best thing you can do is find ways to adapt to it.

 

Incidentally, Lauren Faust actually said she had planned Twilight to eventually become Celestia's successor. Of course, Hasbro got impatient and asked DHX to move along with that plot point, even if it wasn't intended early on. Eh, but what can you do? Trying to argue with the big boys gets you nowhere. Regardless, it happened, and we're stuck with it. There are some things you just can't change.

[Cloud Runner 26]

I'm sorry, what? Cadance and Twilight didn't earn their titles? Am I missing something here?

 

I haven't read Crystal Heart Spell, but I can at least tell you that Twilight did indeed earn that title. She's spent much of her life as Celestia's pupil, learning much about friendship that no other pony, even powerful unicorns Starswirl the Bearded or Sunset Shimmer, could figure out. And as we all know, friendship in this world is a powerful magic, both figuratively and literally. She's been through so much over these four seasons, tackling every challenge that blocks her way, helping the others as a result. And in the end, Celestia rewarded all that hard work by adding her to the royal family. And as I've said before, it'll take some time for her to find what authority she'll eventually have.

 

Besides, if the book explains Cadance's ascension, then that's good enough for me. Sure it may sound stupid but lemme remind you: world of magic. Equestria's got different rules than ours. Dumb as they may look to some people, this is what we've got to work with in the main canon. If you don't like it, then tough break. It's too late to turn back now, so if you want to be happy, you should probably either have to 1) accept it, 2) write an alternate universe fic, or 3) leave the series altogether. Everything happens for a reason, now matter how brilliant or stupid they are. The best thing you can do is find ways to adapt to it.

 

Incidentally, Lauren Faust actually said she had planned Twilight to eventually become Celestia's successor. Of course, Hasbro got impatient and asked DHX to move along with that plot point, even if it wasn't intended early on. Eh, but what can you do? Trying to argue with the big boys gets you nowhere. Regardless, it happened, and we're stuck with it. There are some things you just can't change.

Knowing magic is not enough to be called a princess. Luna and Celestia raise the sun and moon. They also had epic battles with EACH OTHER. Sure TS saved the world a few times but she became a princess because of being good at magic, THAT'S NOT OKAY!

[Solar Cloud 493]

Knowing magic is not enough to be called a princess. Luna and Celestia raise the sun and moon. They also had epic battles with EACH OTHER. Sure TS saved the world a few times but she became a princess because of being good at magic, THAT'S NOT OKAY!

Magic in Equestria equals friendship. Twilight showed she fully understood what friendship is and how to teach it to others. She is now a Princess that represents it. Remember. Friendship is Magic.

[Cloud Runner 26]

Magic in Equestria equals friendship. Twilight showed she fully understood what friendship is and how to teach it to others. She is now a Princess that represents it. Remember. Friendship is Magic.

I get what you're saying but what about Pinkie Pie? She is friends with everyone in Ponyville so why isn't she a princess? I get that TS was celestia's little buddy and all and how she cracked the spell, but still.

Sorry if I come off as a jerk btw, i'm just sharing my opinions. 

[Silver Star 60]

I get what you're saying but what about Pinkie Pie? She is friends with everyone in Ponyville so why isn't she a princess? I get that TS was celestia's little buddy and all and how she cracked the spell, but still.

Sorry if I come off as a jerk btw, i'm just sharing my opinions. 

Pinkie Pie might be friend with everypony in Ponyville, but does she show good leadership skills, or show that she can stay calm in a crisis? Not really.

[Cloud Runner 26]

Pinkie Pie might be friend with everypony in Ponyville, but does she show good leadership skills, or show that she can stay calm in a crisis? Not really.

Yeah I guess, you present a good point

[Solar Cloud 493]

I get what you're saying but what about Pinkie Pie? She is friends with everyone in Ponyville so why isn't she a princess? I get that TS was celestia's little buddy and all and how she cracked the spell, but still.

 

 Just because she is friends with everyone in town doesn't mean she understands friendship like Twilight does. Twilight understands it the most because she learned she needed it when she previously thought she didn't. Lots of things dawn on a someone when they have an epiphany. She managed to bring five mares who were wildly different and acquaintances at best together and formed the closest group of friends in the history of Equestria.

And you are not coming off as a jerk.

[Hive King 2,001]

What is this BS about alicorns being god like? A giant worm was scaring the piss out of Twilight and Cadence, where were these god like powers? 

 

Hell, Celestia got her ass handed to her by a juiced up bug and Luna got taken down by freakin vines!.

 

Alicorns mean very little, especially since we've seen guard alicorns and alicorn fillies