Steel Accord 6,660 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 @@KarentheUnicorn, I actually watched G1 when I was very young way back in the day. Midnight Castle and the one with the Smooze specifically. I think "brony" could very well extend to fans of the toys and older shows as well. It's just the name that was invented to a perhaps existing fanbase and it's only grow exponentially since then. My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manman20x6 359 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I think the label "brony" applies to any fan of MLP, whether it's just the FiM cartoon, the toys, or the older generations. If you fall under one or more of these categories, you are a brony whether you like the word or not. You don't have to use the word yourself, but it still applies to you. You can't decide you aren't a human just because you dislike the word, and you can't decide you aren't a brony for the same reason. 2 I SHIP FLUTTERSHY X BULK BICEPS SO HARD Also, I really like Cloudchaser's mane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,305 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I'm proud to bear the title brony, so no i do not think it is degrading - even if i do hide my bronyism from my friends and parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IridscentNionios 1,420 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I don't know, maybe I am looking to much into this, but I just fear that the title is becoming something that is driving people away from the community instead of welcoming them. It's because of our grossly generalizing society that likes to label people and put them in the same box. Their points are not rational thus i am ignoring them. 2 OCs Thorough list of all of them here. FimFiction Profile Deviant Art ((All OC pictures in here)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 but there are things we could do to encourage those those that use the title to not shove the fandom in areas where it doesn't belong. Very noble, however one thing I've learned: you're pushing a boulder up hill. The moment you criticize the behavior of bronies, you are barraged with "love and tolerate". Trying to encourage some form of etiquette on them more or less has been tried, and no one seems to be capable of stopping the "bad" part of the group. Problem is that the ones who are making the fandom look bad through their actions will never admit to wrongdoing. They will never accept that they are behaving poorly, and thus will never listen to reason. It's best to not even care about trying to fix it, because it's a losing battle. If the term degrades, it degrades. I don't use it on myself and the word bears little importance in my life. You can always like the show and not like the fandom. There isn't even a need to defend the show for its fandom. I see so many people say "oh the fandom isn't so bad, you should check out the show anyways." You shouldn't need to apologize for the fandom. I just tell people I like the show, I don't connect the fandom and the show because the two are not joined at the hip. The show exists in its own realm where the fandom has no actual control over it. Sure they will give a shout out, but they are generally subtle enough to where anyone who didn't know what bronies were wouldn't even know about them. Just enjoy the show and don't care about a label. You're a fan of the show that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarentheUnicorn 218 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 (edited) Erm... isn't that why you are here? You did click the little green button that said 'Join The Herd' have you not?Uh, brony are on this forum but that doesn't mean everyone is. Plus by that mentality that means anyone you communicate with about ponies automatically makes them a brony. If you talk to your mom or dad about bronies an ponies and they answer you ...woops they are a brony. If you talk to the checkout lady about the pony you are buying and she has a conversation with you...damn she's a brony now. Wow...its like a virus... A label alone has made us a united media powerhouse; as a massive community that intends to break down gender barriers, defend our interests, and endure something the public sees as taboo I wholeheartedly believe that a 'group name' is a vital component in this. Um sounds like youre in a war an are giving me some kinda speach so ill join the cause...but here's the problem...I'm not suffering any kinda societal taboo from liking MLP. I'm female there is no gender barriers for me in liking mlp. I don't have to defend my interests or endure any public scorn because I like mlp. Sorry coach...I didn't make the team... We picked the name for ourselves and went along with it, we only politely told other fandomites who stubbornly refused the title that its hypocritical and pointless to deny it.You say we...politely...so you're politely telling a bunch of adults they're hypocrits for not accepting your fanword onto themself. I don't need it. Its not hypocritical...its just I don't feel special enough to be that dedicated. Its not for me its for you. You can be a brony without having to force it on everyone who happen to like mlp...I don't have to be a brony mkay. If some MLP fans don't want to wear the title and pretend not to associate themselves with Bronydom then fineI don't know who is pretending...but just because we talk online on a forum about my little pony doesn't mean we are gonna be bronybuddies...or any kinda buddies. We have a similar interest...that doesn't make me a brony...it just means I'm on a forum that happens to have people on it who call themself brony. Chatting with people oes not make me a brony or just simply liking mlp either. they still share the same exact interests with the exception of catching more flak than those who define themselves as bronies and stand beside the flourishing community behind it.Whohoo...you should really consider working for military recruitment. We stand together...we are many...you're numbers are few...join us ...mehh...sorry But I don't have time for world domination right now...I have a feeling our ponylands would not work well together...there would be war... The perception of outsiders on bronies will change (even if just slightly) if they are aware its a popular social aggregate....well good luck with all that...I think the label "brony" applies to any fan of MLP, whether it's just the FiM cartoon, the toys, or the older generations. If you fall under one or more of these categories, you are a brony whether you like the word or not. You don't have to use the word yourself, but it still applies to you. You can't decide you aren't a human just because you dislike the word, and you can't decide you aren't a brony for the same reason. I do not agree...you are human that's genetic an physical an cannot be changed. It has noting to do with an invented word that you suddenly decides means everyone who liked a mlp. Y'all are the ones who are attempting to water down your meaning an trying to make brony mean multiple things... You guys want brony to mean something yet you constantly seem to be devaluing it by turning it into an all or nothing or it means everything...at some point the deterioration of the word had more to do with that mentality than it has to do with some fan doing something shady/bad. Edited March 9, 2014 by KarentheUnicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactive_user 367 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I myself have no problem whatsoever embracing that I am a brony... But I think I just don't want anyone other than other bronies and simply those who I know will not hate on me for it to know... I have had to put up with so much hate and depression already through my life, and I just want to be part of something where nopony hates anypony simply for fickle matters that they happen to prefer... So to me, no... Being a brony is not at all degrading in the slightest, but I just don't want to be hated for it, like I am afraid so many would do in terms of the current peers in my life at the time... :/ 4 A huge thank you to my great friend AppleGearRising for this signature picture Thank you Apple, I love it so much! Normally I would just post the picture, but as it seems, it is too big to put in the signature here, so here is the link to my MLP personality test results: http://www.bronyland.com/pony-personality-test/?q=OTU0Mnw5NDMzMzA (I am mostly like Fluttershy, in case you couldn't already guess.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGoneGr 1,305 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I myself have no problem whatsoever embracing that I am a brony... But I think I just don't want anyone other than other bronies and simply those who I know will not hate on me for it to know... I have had to put up with so much hate and depression already through my life, and I just want to be part of something where nopony hates anypony simply for fickle matters that they happen to prefer... So to me, no... Being a brony is not at all degrading in the slightest, but I just don't want to be hated for it, like I am afraid so many would do in terms of the current peers in my life at the time... :/ I know just how you feel, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest90210 3,568 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 (edited) I've noticed less bronies using the term. They usually rationalize this by saying they "don't want to be associated with the "bad" bronies" and then saying "I'm just a fan of the show" but this is just a ridiculous notion. It's like a Christian saying "I'm not a Christian, I just believe in Christ". Dropping the title because of a "few bad eggs" is unreasonable. I made a blog about it a while ago so read that if you want to see that argument being shred to pieces (http://mlpforums.com/blog/1474/entry-9393-mlp-fan-brony-dont-contribute-to-the-problem/) Edited March 9, 2014 by Rivendare 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyCryptid 4,330 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 Very noble, however one thing I've learned: you're pushing a boulder up hill. The moment you criticize the behavior of bronies, you are barraged with "love and tolerate". Trying to encourage some form of etiquette on them more or less has been tried, and no one seems to be capable of stopping the "bad" part of the group. Problem is that the ones who are making the fandom look bad through their actions will never admit to wrongdoing. They will never accept that they are behaving poorly, and thus will never listen to reason. That may be true, but even if we can't fix most of them we can sure as hell make it known we don't all condone what they do. 1 "You know, I don't know who or what you are Methos, and I know you don't want to hear this, but you did teach me something. You taught me that Life's about change, about learning to accept who you are, good or bad. And I thank you for that." -Duncan McLeod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 March 9, 2014 Author Share March 9, 2014 Very noble, however one thing I've learned: you're pushing a boulder up hill. The moment you criticize the behavior of bronies, you are barraged with "love and tolerate". Trying to encourage some form of etiquette on them more or less has been tried, and no one seems to be capable of stopping the "bad" part of the group. Problem is that the ones who are making the fandom look bad through their actions will never admit to wrongdoing. They will never accept that they are behaving poorly, and thus will never listen to reason. It's best to not even care about trying to fix it, because it's a losing battle. If the term degrades, it degrades. I don't use it on myself and the word bears little importance in my life. You can always like the show and not like the fandom. There isn't even a need to defend the show for its fandom. I see so many people say "oh the fandom isn't so bad, you should check out the show anyways." You shouldn't need to apologize for the fandom. I just tell people I like the show, I don't connect the fandom and the show because the two are not joined at the hip. The show exists in its own realm where the fandom has no actual control over it. Sure they will give a shout out, but they are generally subtle enough to where anyone who didn't know what bronies were wouldn't even know about them. Just enjoy the show and don't care about a label. You're a fan of the show that's all that matters. I suppose your right, still wish it did not have to be this way. I think the label "brony" applies to any fan of MLP, whether it's just the FiM cartoon, the toys, or the older generations. If you fall under one or more of these categories, you are a brony whether you like the word or not. You don't have to use the word yourself, but it still applies to you. You can't decide you aren't a human just because you dislike the word, and you can't decide you aren't a brony for the same reason. I feel this is a little misleading, while its true that others outside the fandom and possibly inside will still consider you one, it is still your decision to use it and you can always correct those that believe otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavelColt 22,879 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 It doesn't matter what we call ourselves, as fandoms grow they naturally go through constant growth pains. This fandom's grown larger and faster than any I've ever seen. There's tons of people, many of them hipsters in my opinion, who decide to 'drop' the title and 'drop' the fandom completely because things aren't as cocher and less drama-ridden than they often are, now. These same people fail to realize that they're going to run into that no matter what fandom they go to. So, I wouldn't call it 'deteriorating', I'd call it bloated from growth, which has inevitably caused a lot of drama and friction to arise, which, inevitably again, doesn't sit well for a lot of people. In the end, who cares about titles and the drama they bring, as others have said. Like ponies, watch the show, interact with the fandom's parts that aren't drama-ridden, and be happy :3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Bronson 343 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 (edited) I love watching the show and i participate in forums discussing the show further. I'm not a fan of the show though. EDIT: the irony came across too subtle Edited March 9, 2014 by Blaze Bronson OC: Blaze Bronson (Drawing by Digiral) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid 1,327 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 In the end, "brony" is just a term, people can choose whether or not to bear it. Preferring to not be called a brony doesn't change the fact that one loves mlp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Hurricane 170 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I just think that Bronies should be proud of their title, and shouldn't question others' opinions...I guess...I don't know. aaaaaaah AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 2 (Sig by DementedPillowMaster and me, teamwork FTW!)(Let's get as many people as possible to use this sig!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,569 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I don't see why it's a big deal if people don't want to call themselves a brony. If someone doesn't want to call him/herself a brony, they shouldn't have to, imo it doesn't make them any less of a fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manman20x6 359 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 (edited) Uh, brony are on this forum but that doesn't mean everyone is. I'm pretty sure 99.99% of people on this forum are bronies (The other 0.01% is trolls and curious people). Like I said, a brony is a fan of MLP, that's a fact and can't be changed. Plus by that mentality that means anyone you communicate with about ponies automatically makes them a brony. If you talk to your mom or dad about bronies an ponies and they answer you ...woops they are a brony. If you talk to the checkout lady about the pony you are buying and she has a conversation with you...damn she's a brony now. Wow...its like a virus... I don't know who is pretending...but just because we talk online on a forum about my little pony doesn't mean we are gonna be bronybuddies...or any kinda buddies. We have a similar interest...that doesn't make me a brony...it just means I'm on a forum that happens to have people on it who call themself brony. Chatting with people oes not make me a brony or just simply liking mlp either. I think you don't understand what a brony is. A brony is a fan, which means someone who actively appreciates the franchise. Just mentioning the words "Pony" is not enough to become a brony, you have to watch the show and enjoy it (Or collect toys, read the comics, play the crappy iOS game, etc.). You don't have to get along with the other bronies, but if you like MLP you are a brony and so is that guy you hate because he keeps on rambling about his favorite pony who happens to be your least favorite. I do not agree...you are human that's genetic an physical an cannot be changed. It has noting to do with an invented word that you suddenly decides means everyone who liked a mlp. Y'all are the ones who are attempting to water down your meaning an trying to make brony mean multiple things... The meaning of brony is "A fan of MLP". That is a fact, and if you are a fan of MLP that means that by definition you are a brony. Rivendare here made a better analogy than mine: I've noticed less bronies using the term. They usually rationalize this by saying they "don't want to be associated with the "bad" bronies" and then saying "I'm just a fan of the show" but this is just a ridiculous notion. It's like a Christian saying "I'm not a Christian, I just believe in Christ". Dropping the title because of a "few bad eggs" is unreasonable. I made a blog about it a while ago so read that if you want to see that argument being shred to pieces (http://mlpforums.com/blog/1474/entry-9393-mlp-fan-brony-dont-contribute-to-the-problem/) The word brony refers to any fan of MLP. The only way to not be a brony is to not like MLP. Just because you think the word sounds weird, or don't like some of the people who call themselves "brony", that doesn't mean you aren't one yourself. It's not up to you to decide whether or not you are a brony, since the word has a definition and you fall under it. Edited March 9, 2014 by Manman20x6 2 I SHIP FLUTTERSHY X BULK BICEPS SO HARD Also, I really like Cloudchaser's mane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest90210 3,568 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 The word brony refers to any fan of MLP. The only way to not be a brony is to not like MLP. Just because you think the word sounds weird, or don't like some of the people who call themselves "brony", that doesn't mean you aren't one yourself. It's not up to you to decide whether or not you are a brony, since the word has a definition and you fall under it. Ding ding ding! We have a winner. This is the correct answer. Doesn't matter what anyone says about how "bad" some bronies are, fact is, you are one if you're a fan of MLP. Fan of MLP = brony. Brony = fan of MLP. No difference. Hate the community or hate the word "brony"? Fine, but that doesn't mean you aren't one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow1 5 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 Can't believe I'm agreeing with Discord! Discord people! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I stress you all to watch this and really think about it. "You are who you choose to be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windseeker 546 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 Uh, brony are on this forum but that doesn't mean everyone is. Plus by that mentality that means anyone you communicate with about ponies automatically makes them a brony. If you talk to your mom or dad about bronies an ponies and they answer you ...woops they are a brony. If you talk to the checkout lady about the pony you are buying and she has a conversation with you...damn she's a brony now. Wow...its like a virus... Holy shit, it has to take effort to miss the point by such a margin. The people who made this site and put forth money into keeping it running are bronies, and are ones who proudly wear the title. The point is, this site is made by bronies just for bronies centered around the fourth generation of My Little Pony, which apparently you hate both. I'm not sure if you are even aware the fanbase is much different than that of the 1980s, or that there is a difference between affiliation and association. Is it because there is no good forums centered around the previous generations that you must sign up on a newer one and bitch and complain about us? Um sounds like youre in a war an are giving me some kinda speach so ill join the cause...but here's the problem...I'm not suffering any kinda societal taboo from liking MLP. I'm female there is no gender barriers for me in liking mlp. I don't have to defend my interests or endure any public scorn because I like mlp. Whohoo...you should really consider working for military recruitment. We stand together...we are many...you're numbers are few...join us ...mehh...sorry But I don't have time for world domination right now...I have a feeling our ponylands would not work well together...there would be war... I can't sure if you are trolling or are beyond ignorant... Is my eloquent sophisticated terminology blowing your mind must you make a silly comparison? Should I even point out that the underlined content in your statement is contradicting and slightly offensive to the pegasisters who represent this fandom? As a Bigger Brother, I find it sad that previous generation MLP fans will humiliate themselves at every chance to disgrace Bronydom. It happens so often, using the same rhetoric as 'Windows ME is a better system than Windows 8'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinRarity 1,605 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 I don't and have never really called myself a "brony" because I am a woman and I think it's weird to refer to myself as one. Pegasister will do, but again it's not really the first label that I paste onto myself. That being said, I AM part of the Brony Community, as I am a huge fan of the show and participate in as much of the fandom as I can put the time in for. I went to BronyCon 2012, and have participated in Brony events at Youmacon in Detroit. I am signed up as a member of MLPForums and I have participated in Equestria Daily conversations. I have an MLP-type Tumblr blog and I follow a few MLP Tumblr blogs myself. I watch the new episode every Saturday and discuss it with the forums and with my husband, who is also a fan of the show (Brony). I own several of the MLP Trading Cards, including very rare ones, most of which I acquired via ebay, as well as the MLP CCG. I own several of the brushable figures and several of the small PVC figures which I have displayed around my cubicle at work. Yeah, I am a huge fan of the show. I put time and resources into this hobby of mine. So when people say stuff like, "Bronies are perverts" "Bronies are creepy" "Bronies are stupid" "Bronies are scum" and it makes good people in the fandom go out of their way to disassociate themselves with the fandom, it makes me a little upset. I guess you can say that I consider myself a brony despite the fact that I don't go out of my way to call myself one. But maybe I should. Because even though I do not call myself a brony on an individual level, I am a part of a community of fans, and I shouldn't feel ashamed to be associated with them. Because I am also of the mindset that "if you are a fan of MLPFiM then you are a brony" like how "if you are a fan of Star Trek then you are a Trekkie" or "if you are a fan of Dr. Who then you are a Whovian." I think that I don't feel like throwing the brony title to the curb because I am someone who likes to stick to their guns unless there is a real logical and emotional reason to abandon ship. I grew up Roman Catholic, and I still am Roman Catholic. But it's no secret that there are horrible people who associate themselves with the Roman Catholic Church. Case and point: Roman Catholic priests who sexually abuse children. A less horrible example, people who use the Roman Catholic Church to excuse bigoted, prideful, judgmental, hateful behavior and conversation. Does this mean that I should abandon the Catholic label? Because I am a good person and I don't want to be associated with the bad people who bear the same title? Religious belief is more important than any fandom. Regardless, our fandoms mean something to us in our lives, otherwise we wouldn't devote our time and money toward them. MLPFiM has changed our lives for the better, even if the changes have been minor. But for some people, it has changed their lives for the better in major ways. That is reason enough to make the religion comparison. To answer my question, of course the answer is no. Because 1. Being Catholic has made my life and the lives of other people around me better 2. I know that people are wrong when they say "All Catholics are judgmental" when I personally know several non-judgmental Catholics. 3. I know that the good people who are Catholics can make a difference in changing people's perspectives about the Catholic Church. I think that bronies can make a similar difference. How? By being a good example to people. It's not going to change the entire world. It's not going to change some people's perspectives. But any minds that can be changed can make a positive difference. The Christian worldview calls this "Relational evangelization." Evangelization isn't about us trying to convert people, it's about showing kindness to others who are different from ourselves so that they can grow in a better understanding of what it is that we believe in. It may or may not end in conversion, but perhaps eyes were opened. I normally dislike using religious terms to describe certain aspects of the fandom, but it works here, to a lesser extent. Unlike religion, though, where people who believe certain religious beliefs will believe that only their religion is 100% true, we don't need to be teaching people that MLP is the best TV show in the world, or that everyone has to be a brony. Rather, what we are doing is convincing people that good bronies not only exist, but exist in high numbers. Because why would we be so involved in a fan community if we believe that the majority of bronies are horrible people? But why bother in the first place? Because we believe that this television show has made a positive difference in people's lives, and we believe that it can make a positive difference in others' lives too. It can teach people that men don't need to be macho, and that cartoons geared towards the female gender don't have to suck. That's quite a social movement right there. Whether or not people like the show, I think that showing the world that grown men can like a TV show that stars females is actually a big deal, and something people can get behind. It shows the world that the idea that men will only watch movies and TV shows that star men is a huge lie. And it can foster more development for other movies and TV shows that star women because the big people know that men can and will be attracted to that sort of thing - beyond sexual appeal. I want to get behind that. Bronies are the first large and popular group of men that have shown devotion to a show starring women. I want to live in a world where men can watch other shows starring women without shame, and without being reprimanded. We have a long way to go, but it's not an impossible thing to do. So whether or not we agree with the actions of the bad bronies shouldn't determine whether or not we are a brony. Because in the end, it doesn't make the world a better place. 2 Follow my blog! ~The Mind of Sally - Experiences, Opinions, Musings~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift 4,272 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 If you think you are a brony, why not. If you think you aren't, why not either. Have the courage to think and act on your own. And have the courage to disobey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 March 9, 2014 Share March 9, 2014 Like most people, I don't particularly care for labels or drama because even through all of that a fandom like ours will continue to grow and since huge groups mostly go through some land slides the title shouldn't matter. You can call yourself what you want. 1 Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDiscord 289 March 9, 2014 Author Share March 9, 2014 (edited) Can't believe I'm agreeing with Discord! Discord people! Hey, I'm reformed... remember. I stress you all to watch this and really think about it. "You are who you choose to be." I loved that movie, I really wish they would have made a sequel. Edited March 9, 2014 by LordDiscord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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