I'm not social enough to see evidence of it offline, but I agree its a modern issue that needs solving.

I'm skeptical of the survey. How did they define disrespect? If you want a certain result you can ask questions a certain way.

I know exactly how you feel.

The same goes with racism for me. Constantly people try to make a racist of me. Everybody can say everything about me, but if I say it about somebody else I will be punished for it. Actually it is exactly the same, so I agree with you heavily. 

I will be honest, i couldn't give less of a damn.

For example, people these days also complain about the fact, that if you say that a women looks beautiful that you objectify them. This whole political correctness thing has gone way overboard.

Here in germany, we have a folksong called "the thoughts are free" and i am of the opinion that everyone has the freedom to think what they want, when they want. Controlling someones thoughts, that is real oppression.

I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. At least in my experience the women who view all men as disrespecting, sexist scumbags are a very small minority. 

1 minute ago, Yamet said:

I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. At least in my experience the women who view all men as disrespecting, sexist scumbags are a very small minority. 

Incorrect. All women are like that, abd for good reason. They are right.

4 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Incorrect. All women are like that, abd for good reason. They are right.

That's just factually wrong. 

Also, how can someone who is a man themself say that all men are disrespecting, sexist scumbags? 

1 minute ago, Yamet said:

That's just factually wrong. 

Also, how can someone who is a man themself say that all men are disrespecting, sexist scumbags? 

Because I am a male feminist.

Also, I am non-binary. Only my body is male.

Also, if I say otherwise, I will be attacked.

1 minute ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Because I am a male feminist.

And that's relevant because? I mean, the vast majority of feminists don't view all men as disrespecting, sexist scumbags.

2 minutes ago, Yamet said:

And that's relevant because? I mean, the vast majority of feminists don't view all men as disrespecting, sexist scumbags.

And those feminists are frowned upon by the third wave feminists.

4 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

And those feminists are frowned upon by the third wave feminists.

But what's your point? As previously mentioned, that type of feminists is just a very small minority. 

My point is: You cannot be too careful. No one "looks like a 3rd wave feminist", and no one "looks like an anti-feminist". Always take life with caution.

36 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

My point is: You cannot be too careful. No one "looks like a 3rd wave feminist", and no one "looks like an anti-feminist". Always take life with caution.

But that's completely irrelevant to what I asked you. My question was how the fact that you are a male feminist justifies that you think that all men are disrespecting, sexist scumbags. 

5 minutes ago, Yamet said:

But that's completely irrelevant to what I asked you. My question was how the fact that you are a male feminist justifies that you think that all men are disrespecting, sexist scumbags. 

Not to mention that all women are manipulative scumbags.

I'll be a bit controversial and say my two bits.

Forewarning, I open this by stating I am a trans person so my view does not come from that of a biological woman's so keep that in mind. Full disclosure.

The view from nasty women like the people who write these articles... it's hard to say if they are a majority or a minority, but for the most part, I find they are a minority. Feminism in the US is at an all-time low after all. That being said... there definitely is an issue with men being seen negatively by default and often just for not being "Attractive enough". If a man is overweight or unattractive to most he's seen as "creepy" if he even so much as talks to a woman. It's not seen the same the other way. Feminism tells overweight women you're "great as you are!" and calls being fat "curvy" etc. Even the ridiculous fat acceptance movement SELDOM focuses on overweight men.

So there is a stigma against men, to the point where I would say the 'privilege" is not inherently in men's favor. If you're an attractive man who has good connections? Yeah, you'lll be pretty well off, but if you're not... the odds are stacked against you in many areas, with only a few areas where men have an advantage.

That being said, here in Germany it's not quite so much like that, but these issues do need to be addressed.

On the MORE controversial side I'm going to openly say: a lot of women that complain about men disrespecting women... (not all, but I'd say a chunk at least, like the people who write these articles) WANT to be disrespected by men. They want to because it gives them something to complain about. They want to feel justified in being a pain in the ass and point to operations like hooters and strip clubs and porn... When in reality... the women working those places are making good money for relatively little work. Most of them are actually pretty happy with what they do and paid way more than most would be for doing much harder and more labor-intensive jobs. A lot of it can stem from jealousy, jealousy that these women are desirable enough to do these jobs and be successful at it when the ones complaining don't believe they could be. They like to look down on the men who enjoy these things instead of realizing that it's the women who accept these jobs and willingly do them. There is no conspiracy to keep women in these jobs.

The irony is that if these people complaining about this stuff actually believed in loving yourself for who and what you are, they wouldn't bitch so much about women being sexy and using that to get a living. That's their choice and they feel great enough about who they are and what they look like to do it, then who are we to say they are "wrong". It's capitalism, they have something people are willing to pay for and they are using it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

47 minutes ago, Key Sharkz said:

I'll be a bit controversial and say my two bits.

Forewarning, I open this by stating I am a trans person so my view does not come from that of a biological woman's so keep that in mind. Full disclosure.

 

The view from nasty women like the people who write these articles... it's hard to say if they are a majority or a minority, but for the most part, I find they are a minority. Feminism in the US is at an all-time low after all. That being said... there definitely is an issue with men being seen negatively by default and often just for not being "Attractive enough". If a man is overweight or unattractive to most he's seen as "creepy" if he even so much as talks to a woman. It's not seen the same the other way. Feminism tells overweight women you're "great as you are!" and calls being fat "curvy" etc. Even the ridiculous fat acceptance movement SELDOM focuses on overweight men.

So there is a stigma against men, to the point where I would say the 'privilege" is not inherently in men's favor. If you're an attractive man who has good connections? Yeah, you'lll be pretty well off, but if you're not... the odds are stacked against you in many areas, with only a few areas where men have an advantage.

That being said, here in Germany it's not quite so much like that, but these issues do need to be addressed.

 

On the MORE controversial side I'm going to openly say: a lot of women that complain about men disrespecting women... (not all, but I'd say a chunk at least, like the people who write these articles) WANT to be disrespected by men. They want to because it gives them something to complain about. They want to feel justified in being a pain in the ass and point to operations like hooters and strip clubs and porn... When in reality... the women working those places are making good money for relatively little work. Most of them are actually pretty happy with what they do and paid way more than most would be for doing much harder and more labor-intensive jobs. A lot of it can stem from jealousy, jealousy that these women are desirable enough to do these jobs and be successful at it when the ones complaining don't believe they could be. They like to look down on the men who enjoy these things instead of realizing that it's the women who accept these jobs and willingly do them. There is no conspiracy to keep women in these jobs.

The irony is that if these people complaining about this stuff actually believed in loving yourself for who and what you are, they wouldn't bitch so much about women being sexy and using that to get a living. That's their choice and they feel great enough about who they are and what they look like to do it, then who are we to say they are "wrong". It's capitalism, they have something people are willing to pay for and they are using it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Tell me: how do you know who you can trust? Because, logically, not every man hater is open about it. Some may keep quiet until the opportunity arises that their voice can be heard most effectively.

There are 7.5 billion people on this planet, with over half of the population being women. Even a small minority of women who hate men (or at least have a grudge against them) is a large number - in the hundreds of thousands or the millions.

Also, what is your opinion on "reverse-sexist" jokes against men? (Such as, "Only a man would make that mistake", or "Men will be men", or "Men don't think. That's weird".)

Also, what is your opinion on the widely popular idea of eliminating toxic masculinity? Do you believe in toxic masculinity?

Don't know if I feel like compiring a single womans opionion on men to the problems women face in the workforce is a fair comparison to make. 

25 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Tell me: how do you know who you can trust? Because, logically, not every man hater is open about it.

If you're any example... I'd say they are... Also, I don't go around assuming everyone is evil or bad because that's how you live in total misery. That's how you live your life hating existence and not truly living.

27 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Some may keep quiet until the opportunity arises that their voice can be heard most effectively.

Very unlikely. Most who have such negative views share them regularly and openly because they don't see them as "bad" so they have no reason to believe others would disagree.

28 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

There are 7.5 billion people on this planet, with over half of the population being women. Even a small minority of women who hate men (or at least have a grudge against them) is a large number - in the hundreds of thousands or the millions.

I do not think there has been any study done to assert the number of hundreds of thousands or millions in any level of accuracy. Even 100 million women is not even 1% of the world population of women, remember that. Even if the ENTIRE US population of women were all "man haters" that would still be less than 10% of the world population, etc.

30 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Also, what is your opinion on "reverse-sexist" jokes against men? (Such as, "Only a man would make that mistake", or "Men will be men", or "Men don't think. That's weird".)

There is no reverse sexism, just sexism. If you blame someone making a mistake on their sex, you are being sexist, period.

31 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said:

Also, what is your opinion on the widely popular idea of eliminating toxic masculinity? Do you believe in toxic masculinity?

Absurd. I also wouldn't even call it "widely popular" because it's supported only by extreme feminists who make up less than 20% of the US population, and less than 10% of the UK population and less than 1% of the world population. I would hardly call that widely popular. It's just another idiotic lie that third wave feminists made up to have an excuse to blame men for more problems instead of addressing real issues.

There are real problems in the world that women face such as women in third world countries being killed for "honor" because they were raped. Women having their clitorises forcibly removed in third world countries to prevent them from cheating on their husbands who they are forced to marry. Women in many cultures who are punished merely for speaking out of turn or voting. But here are third wave feminists complaining about non-existent or trivial problems that women in the US who have the most privileges of any other nation are facing such as "manspreading" and "toxic masculinity".

I don't take the opinion of some third wave feminist blogging from her iPhone at a Starbucks Cafe seriously when she continually turns a blind eye to the crimes of Islamic nations who literally treat women as less than property while at the same time complaining about how toxic masculinity is one of the biggest problems we as a society face.

I am more interested in attacking REAL issues in the west for women such as reducing rape against women and raising awareness for rape victims to come forward sooner so that the chances of justice are higher and of course improving forensic science to catch rapists more often.

One final question: What is your opinion on fathers? Are they really needed? Or do you believe that a women could marry a man, maybe have a child, and then divorce her partner and live off of welfare and child support from her ex-husband?

On 3/17/2018 at 4:23 PM, Feather Scribbles said:

Tell me: how do you know who you can trust? Because, logically, not every man hater is open about it. Some may keep quiet until the opportunity arises that their voice can be heard most effectively.

Yeah, women sure are scheming behind the scenes as a massive collective, you caught us. We have a huge underground system and everything, waiting for the perfect moment to strike and take down The Man. I mean, you said it yourself:

On 3/17/2018 at 1:00 AM, Feather Scribbles said:

Not to mention that all women are manipulative scumbags.

(Which is kind of hilarious, given you said you were a male feminist before that.)

On 3/17/2018 at 4:23 PM, Feather Scribbles said:

There are 7.5 billion people on this planet, with over half of the population being women. Even a small minority of women who hate men (or at least have a grudge against them) is a large number - in the hundreds of thousands or the millions.

I mean, by that logic I should distrust every man, because even a small minority of misogynist pig men is a large number, right?

Hot damn your degree of paranoia is almost frightening. Should probably get that checked out, that doesn't sound fun to live with.

EDIT: i just realized omg this sounds like the m&m thing haha omg

On 3/17/2018 at 4:23 PM, Feather Scribbles said:

Also, what is your opinion on "reverse-sexist" jokes against men? (Such as, "Only a man would make that mistake", or "Men will be men", or "Men don't think. That's weird".)

As a woman, my womanly opinion on this particular piece of conversation is:

• It's absolutely pointless, literally everything is joked about and that includes gender stereotypes, and that's always going to be a thing. (And no, I am not bothered by jokes about girls. I have other things to be concerned about.)
• "Reverse-sexism" is not a thing, it's just sexism.

Also for the record I've never heard anyone say any of the phrases that you're citing as examples.

On 3/17/2018 at 4:23 PM, Feather Scribbles said:

Also, what is your opinion on the widely popular idea of eliminating toxic masculinity? Do you believe in toxic masculinity?

If by "widely popular" you mean "it's supported by a niche group of feminists who usually hang around on more social justice-heavy websites and do nothing else", then yeah, sure.

And no, the idea of toxic masculinity is pretty ridiculous from the onset.

I know I might sound scathing here, but like, c'mon man... There's no way you actually believe any of the stuff you're saying, is there? I hate to say it, but for all your cries about women being sexist, you've gone in so deep that you're the one who sounds sexist from where I'm standing. You don't see anything hypocritical in saying that men should be defended from sexism and yet "all women are manipulative scumbags" in the same breath? You're pulling the very thing you're accusing feminist women of doing, and I'm not even a feminist.

Let's avoid the name-calling people. Stick to reports; not accusations.