TheMarkz0ne 962 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 Watched some really deep video on life and how we all affect each other. To the point, where I guess it deems we aren't our own lives because our actions good or bad affect others. I hear this in my area from eavesdropping on others. Do you think interconnectedness is something to enjoy? Because I think our lives voluntarily and involuntarily affect each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugoi Kurloz 40 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 I guess it's just another debate when it gets down to it ; Free Will VS Fate Life is still your choices ultimately when life adds an obstacle by an outside person(s) it's still your choice to persue or deny As is anything else BUT without the outside obstacle you wouldn't have that choice to begin with and your life therefore becomes semi-stagnant. Life is a consistency of probability and chances. That's all I have to say 1 TC: tHeSe MoThErFuCkErS aRe PrEtTy DoPe AcTuAlLy, I lIkE tHeM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubWolf 17,264 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 (edited) Yup. Free will, but that free can also affect the free will of others based on how those actions of yours affect them. Edited August 25, 2014 by Super80 Wolf 1 Sig by Wolf, Handwriting by SparklingSwirls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTwo 64 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 I think so. Sure our actions have subtle effects on others, but not to the point to where we aren't living our own lives anymore. Honestly it makes me feel more important to think that I have that kind of effect on other people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Pink 31 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 you can read 'free will' by sam harris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugoi Kurloz 40 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 you can read 'free will' by sam harrisOr Slaughter-House Five TC: tHeSe MoThErFuCkErS aRe PrEtTy DoPe AcTuAlLy, I lIkE tHeM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 August 25, 2014 Author Share August 25, 2014 Neuroscience doesn't impress me. Humans will not solve life by looking at biology alone. Brain scans just reveal electric impulses. It just seems to be anti Christian, fine by me. But I don't advocate free will for my own reasons. But I will not ascribe with nihilism that science has wrapped itself in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinky Pie 71 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 Well we sure are living our lives, the biggest prove to that is that you can end your life whenever you want (suicide etc). But yea everything we do affects others too because we are like atoms of a solid, if one of us vibrates, everyone of us vibrates. And this is why we never want to live alone (I mean totally alone, without any friend/familly member/BF or GF) Also, everything we do affects others but that effect affects us too. Which means we totally live our lives. For example I make a joke. This will make you laugh, which will make me happy. Or I kill someone. This will end his life, which will make me go to a prison. We are like mirrors... We reflect everything around us to everyone around us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMarkz0ne 962 August 25, 2014 Author Share August 25, 2014 (edited) We are all one Naturally Anatomically Biologically Atomically Vibratory Spiritually I have more reasons to defend no free will, than support free will. Edited August 25, 2014 by TheMarkz0ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
碇 シンジン 27,431 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 I think your life is your own. However some parents think their kids life is theirs and they start growing their children the way they want them to be not the way the children would want and that can cause damage to the kids emotional life. Because the child needs to hide his/her emotions as being forced to live the way the parents want. Everyone should be able to live the life the way they want not the way someone else want them to live. Rarity Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countsp00ky 23 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 We're all one really. Appreciate life; it's beautiful and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningMana 146 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 Everyone affects everyone. Everyone, our peers and family teach each other. When you have kids and they grow up, they end up being our messengers. What we do around them, teach them, becomes them. When we're raised by our parents, what we see, absorb, becomes part of us. How our friends/peers treat us, affects us as a individual person. Avatar designed by my beloved VinylShadow~ ~~~COMMISSIONS OPEN~~~ http://mlpforums.com/topic/102640-lightning-mana-custom-pony-figure-commissions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklingSquirrels 21,345 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 I think it's some of both, really. It's true that people affect each other, but I also believe that we have free will and can make our own choices. 1 ֍֎֍֎ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReGen 1,466 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 To the point, where I guess it deems we aren't our own lives because our actions good or bad affect others. I don't see the correlation there, honestly. I assume that you're saying we don't have free will, but I don't see it. Our actions may always affect others, but we do have free will since we have the choice whether to make those actions or not. "I keep the walking on the right side, but I won't judge the next who handles walking on the wrong. 'Cause that's how he wants to be. No difference, see." Cloud of Sounds | YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Pink 31 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I don't see the correlation there, honestly. I assume that you're saying we don't have free will, but I don't see it. Our actions may always affect others, but we do have free will since we have the choice whether to make those actions or not. but some argue that we only have the illusion of a choice - lets say my favorite food is pizza, and I am given a choice whether to eat pizza or spaghetti - I will choose pizza most likely because I like it more and it would seem like I have a choice but answer me this: Did I choose to like pizza the most or was it out of my control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarSarahh 56 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Ultimately, this is life is ours. In the end, with most things, we choose what we want to do. Depending on how you have grown up, I feel like some people have higher expectations to live up to. When that happens, it seems as if we are supposed to be doing things that makes everyone else happy. Our actions are going to affect others. No matter what. Plain and simple. But as long as we know are making those decisions for our own happines, it shouldn't matter. You don't have to live this life for anyone else. You need to live this life for yourself. You need to do what YOU love. You need to do what YOU think is right. You need to do what makes YOU happy. Of course, when we love people, we sacrifice things. And that's completely fine. But just be sure you are sacrificing something for the right reason. We were put here to interact and to live amongst each other. To make connections. Relationships are important for all human beings. Doesn't mean all connections are going to affect each other postiviley or negatively. Probably a little bit of both. I believe in fate. I think that everything happens for a reason. But I also believe that we are in control of what we want to be in control of. Hopefully, in the end, you end up where you need to be. I'm a bit torn between the two, if you can't tell. I probably went a whole tangent that doesn't even make sense. Hopefully this all made sense. I was just typing away. Lolololol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invincible 2,091 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 The human mind is nothing but a machine, a very complex machine, but a machine. And if you knew how it works, and all the input it's possibly getting at a moment's notice, you'd be able to make fully accurate predictions. There's no matter of chance about it. I hold that we are just blown along with the winds of circumstance, and that there's no choice involved. We simply are. My OCs for Roleplay purposes: o Lit Fuse (http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/lit-fuse-r6608) o Dust Devil (http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/dust-devil-r7357) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,351 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 What do you think? Of course they are. Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix 1,363 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I'd say our lives are our own. Others do in fact change our ways of life and how we see things. They change how long we live even if we don't know them or see it coming. Car crashes and murder. The ones we love or marry greatly change who we are as well. Our happiness, how we act, what we like. They get us to try different things and see things differently. So while many people do factor into our life I like to see it as our own life together. All our lives are our own but within our lives are our soul mates or other people of great importance. We are each other. Now that's just some complicated thing I tried to conjure but hopefully it makes some sense. Credit to Kyoshi for the awesome signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson Cross 7,532 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I believe we have free will to some extent, despite all of the restrictions placed upon us. I guess we still have a choice in what we do regardless. Everyone is individual I guess. Each one of us is a little bit different to the other. We all have similarities, but it's our differences and uniqueness that set us all apart from one another. Now with more added tea leaves! My fantastic signature made by Gone Airbourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Shep-herd 64 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 (edited) Er so-so. I think it's dependent on person to person. I would say society has a massive effect on the way people act and behave, even if they wouldn't act that way usually. It seems wanting to conform plays a major role in how we choose what life we want. Also the media can have an impact on the control of our lives. It tells us what clothes to wear, who to hate, who to like. But some people go against this conformity and media perspective. So, in my opinion I would say for the most part, no our lives aren't really ours. But I would also say that some people do have control over their lives, to like what they want to like without feeling a need to conform, or to judge based on what they think, and not what some newspaper, government official, or news broadcaster wants you to think. Edited August 26, 2014 by Commander Shep-herd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naiya The Brony 483 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 There is ''I'' in life, soo... yeah My life is my own to chooseEven though each of us are the same, we are also different. Though it's true, Our actions, be it good or bad, will affect someone's life and theirs will affect ours. We are in control of our life, the decision we make the, paths we take but we aren't in control on the changes that will affect our and other's lives. My Commission Shop || My Deviantart || My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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