No wind proves the Pony World is flat and does not rotate

[Buck Testa 5,505]

As I am sure you are aware all things weather are managed by Pegesi and things that normally by natural causes are managed by ponies in general. Wind does not naturally occur in Equestrias world out side of stuff ponies do.

 

Wind is generated by the differences in temp at the poles to the equator and the rotation of the planet (there is more to it but thats the jist) and the absense of these factors would make the atmosphere relatively static, which is why you van make cloud cities.

 

In other words Pony world is "flat" with no poles and no rotation.

 

If you have counter points I would love to hear them.

 

As with all my topics please leave the "its just a kid show" comments out cause it hinders discussion.

[Skygunner 352]

I think you need to watch a bit more of the show before coming up with your conclusion.  

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

Despite the Pegasi controlling the weather, it's clear from many different instances in the show that naturally occurring weather patterns are possible in the pony world, thus calling into doubt your theory.

 

After all, it's not like there's just a horde of Pegasi sitting over the Crystal Empire giving them random snow storms, is there?

[LZRD WZRD 1,929]

But the clouds "move all on their own" in the Everfree Forest, do they not?

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Despite the Pegasi controlling the weather, it's clear from many different instances in the show that naturally occurring weather patterns are possible in the pony world, thus calling into doubt your theory.

 

After all, it's not like there's just a horde of Pegasi sitting over the Crystal Empire giving them random snow storms, is there?

That storm was far from random. Unless I am mistaken it had more to do with Sombras presence than anything.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,091]

That storm was far from random. Unless I am mistaken it had more to do with Sombras presence than anything.

 

But the Crystal Empire is still shown to have snow surrounding it after Sombra has left in other episodes, meaning that Pegasi don't just up and create all weather. It also means that the Crystal Empire is naturally a cold place and Sombra probably just made the snowstorm worse rather than create it himself.

 

To me, Pegasi are more weather-regulators than the source of weather. That's why Rainbow Dash doesn't necessarily seem surprised by the presence of those mysterious clouds in "Return of Harmony" since weather does naturally occur, it's just up to the Pegasi to control it.

[LZRD WZRD 1,929]

I see all you awindists out there are ignoring my damning evidence against your theory

[toonbat 28]

Even if the world IS flat, how would this stop wind from forming?  The sun shining down on Equestria would still cause hot air to rise, with colder wind from the colder regions in the north (and presumably the south as well) rushin in to fill the gap.

[Darker 1,351]

Are we trying to put logic in a world of multi-colored marshmallow ponies? AGAIN?

[Yamato 1,348]

Y'all remember this?


Look, even the flag is goin' in the background.

[Princess Lona 382]

Maybe the world is round and there is a pony or group of ponies who are responsible for making it turn. Or maybe when the Royal Pony Sisters "rise" the sun and moon, what they are actually doing is causing the planet to rotate. Once that rotation gets the wind going, the Pegasi step in and fine tune it.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Toonbat yes the sun would do that, but not to the degree that rotation and the poles do for our planet. It shows too.

 

Princess Lona, if Celestia rotated the planet she would have the planet as her cutie mark right? It also showed in the season four finale that Twilight made them move around the sky spastically (and without apocolyptic results I might add). Also if the planet was truly round then would that mean Celestia would have to work 24/7 with no rest? She only needs to bring light to a surface, not a sphere.

Edited August 27, 2014 by Buck Testa

[Cwanky 17,602]

Sure, and the pegasi were watering and raising those expansive green fields of grass in Equestria all that time long before they even arrived and settled in Equestria.

 

Sure, sugar cube. 

[Dattebayo 2,850]

The weather is controlled by the pegasi to better regulate crops and such

There are certain places where there is no civilization, such as the Everfree Forest, where the weather is, as the characters in the show called it, "Wild".

[Yamato 1,348]

Toonbat yes the sun would do that, but not to the degree that rotation and the poles do for our planet. It shows too.

 

Princess Lona, if Celestia rotated the planet she would have the planet as her cutie mark right? It also showed in the season four finale that Twilight made them move around the sky spastically (and without apocolyptic results I might add). Also if the planet was truly round then would that mean Celestia would have to work 24/7 with no rest? She only needs to bring light to a surface, not a sphere.

It's not always either noon or midnight, though. Equestria has sunrises and sunsets, so the sun must follow a path across the sky.

 

But, let's take out our brains for a second and suppose the world is flat. What about the underside? Surely the Equestrian universe has the capability to render backfaces. I mean, there'd have to be something back there.Who lights it? Celestia of course, or would it be Luna?

 

But a disk would have a pretty low gravity, so how would it retain an atmosphere? Or a moon?

 

Also, do you really know what causes wind? It's differential heating. Doesn't matter if it's the planet or the sun rotating, so long as there's a day-night cycle, there'd be wind. I mean, let's once again assume that the world is flat. When the sun crosses that horizon, it doesn't just disappear, does it? No, it goes around back and heats that shit up, too. As the air on one side cools and gets more dense, it'll start trying to move to the less-dense other side. Granted, they'd be pretty janky winds, but they'd happen.

 

So hey, here's a theory. The world is round, and maybe the heavens never stop moving, or maybe the planet never stops rotating. Maybe the sisters just take shifts moving them, or it, or both

Edited August 27, 2014 by Chrysler

[Jeric 46,860]

Did I just stumble on a thread that simultaneously tries to use Physics and Cosmology to validate the absence of natural weather AND a non spherical world?

 

The nature of the proof is paradoxical in the OP. Astrophysics disproves any plane stellar body

 

Yo Mr. White! Emmy Magic Pony Science

[Zoraxe 546]

Are we trying to put logic in a world of multi-colored marshmallow ponies? AGAIN?

 

Yes, It doesn't matter what marshmallow colors the characters are, their world runs on its own logic and thus can be debated.

 

The world of FIM is a fictional setting and a developed one as well with multiple locations and creatures and ways nature and magic operate. Its not just something to dismiss just because there is magic and the characters are ponies.

[Jeric 46,860]

Yes, It doesn't matter what marshmallow colors the characters are, their world runs on its own logic and thus can be debated.

 

The world of FIM is a fictional setting and a developed one as well with multiple locations and creatures and ways nature and magic operate. Its not just something to dismiss just because there is magic and the characters are ponies.

As a fan of free interpretation of fiction I wholeheartedly agree with you. Simply dismissing the elements in a show by saying, 'it's just a cartoon' is a disservice to anyone that looks for thematic depth, character motivation, and even scientific logic in MLP.

 

Good point

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

It's physically impossible for a world that large to retain a shape like a disk.. No gravity would mold it into a ball like shape just like our world.

Edited August 27, 2014 by ResistenceXD0001

[Darker 1,351]

Yes, It doesn't matter what marshmallow colors the characters are, their world runs on its own logic and thus can be debated.

 

The world of FIM is a fictional setting and a developed one as well with multiple locations and creatures and ways nature and magic operate. Its not just something to dismiss just because there is magic and the characters are ponies.

It's not only that, but about the fact that this show, like many others, has errors, and specially inconsistencies. Because in one moment we can see RD break the sound barrier but right after we can see her flying at what barely could be 100 ft/s.

 

And about applying logic into a world that is not fully defined just melts into lots of theories. None of them are true, since seeing how random the show is, at one moment they might bring something up, and in another they could get some idea out of nowhere and this could cause confusion.

 

We are trying to specify a world in MLP, when we all know only Equestria, one country is defined. Faust said that everything past Equestria was unknown, or simply never thought of giving an existence to the rest of the world the ponies are in.

 

However, even for everything I've said, your point is really valid, I could agree with you.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Darker, that is precisely why I said in the original post that if you have nothing to add to the conversation beyond pointing out that its a kid show then do not bother commenting in the first place because it hinders discussion. We all know its a fictional story, this is actively suspending disbelief and solidfying the world in our heads.

 

Chwanky, now here is how you show logic errors! Extra brownie points for use of the pet name Sugar Cube. You are indeed correct that something was maintaining the land before the ponies arrived.

 

Dattebayo, that sounds pretty logical, do you happen to have a clip where they refer to weather as wild? It would be interesting if they simply tame areas and manually work the weather to maximize yeild.

 

Chrysler yes I am aware of how wind is formed that is why I put that parenthesis saying it was more complex then rotation and the poles, but they play a huge role none the less. Onto your second point gravity does not seem that strong on that planet anyway considering how easily the ponies leap about and defy it. Also the moon and sun would have to be smaller to revolve around the planet. considering the set up the planet feels more like an artificial Biodome then an actual planet.

 

Zoraxe, thank you. I rather enjoy theads like this cause it gets people thinking. Its like those lawyer games were you put out your theory and the objections start flying. Love it.

 

 

ResistenceXD0001, Are we sure how big the planet actually is though?

[Pastel 7,630]

@@Buck Testa, the pony world is a sphere, as seen in Secret of my Excess: