technology The Glorious PC master race thread

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

 You need to format the drive before it can be used. You do that in Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management.

 

Also, I Minecraft started stuttering and dropped to 1FPS after I played with some shit(I have optifine) no-clue what I hit that this card doesn't like(I'm still updating drivers, that may be a factor)

[long gone 8,929]

Also, I Minecraft started stuttering and dropped to 1FPS after I played with some shit(I have optifine) no-clue what I hit that this card doesn't like(I'm still updating drivers, that may be a factor)

Yeah, finish installing drivers first lol

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Yeah, finish installing drivers first lol

 

Yeah, and I found the formatting so we're good, a demonstrating that everything is registering right as well:

 

I just have to fix that fan that runs but doesn't give a read-out because I couldn't reach a fan-port on the board with it and figure out what it takes me to the boot screen to pick a device every-time I turn it on. 

[long gone 8,929]

Yeah, and I found the formatting so we're good, a demonstrating that everything is registering right as well:

 

I just have to fix that fan that runs but doesn't give a read-out because I couldn't reach a fan-port on the board with it and figure out what it takes me to the boot screen to pick a device every-time I turn it on. 

Yeah, everything looks good. Hope you figure out those last two kinks!

[Plageius 263]

 

Reporting from my new computer, still ironing the kinks out but all seems to be running smooth aside from

 

a CPU fan-error that seems to be pointless because the fan is working

 

Wanting me to choose a boot-device every-time I start up

 

Not showing my other HDD in my computer even though it's installed and showing up in device manager. 

 

assuming your using an asus board, that happens when you have the cpu fan cable plugged into a normal case fan cable.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

assuming your using an asus board, that happens when you have the cpu fan cable plugged into a normal case fan cable.

I'll have to figure out which slot is the CPU fan and fix-that, thanks. 

[long gone 8,929]

I'll have to figure out which slot is the CPU fan and fix-that, thanks.

There's a very wise saying that goes RTFM, ya know.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

There's a very wise saying that goes RTFM, ya know.

 

I did(or I would've failed horribly)

 

I think I misread the slot labels.

[long gone 8,929]

I did(or I would've failed horribly)

 

I think I misread the slot labels.

Well, read the fucking manual again then

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Well, read the fucking manual again then

 

If only the PSU would've had one, things would've been so much easier....

One thing I DIDN'T know, my 750ti seems to be able to use shared RAM on top of it's own vram:

 

[Celli 4,338]

Isn't there a steam sale in December?

[long gone 8,929]

Isn't there a steam sale in December?

Usually, yes, there is a Steam sale in December.

[Celli 4,338]

Usually, yes, there is a Steam sale in December.

Oh good,because I missed the summer sale and I ended up paying full price for Bioshock Infinite. 

I won't miss it this time, though. Lots of games I want to get.

I wonder if my Laptop will be able to run GTA V. IV runs fine considering how badly optimized the game is, though I have to run everything on minimum.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

It's the greatest game ever...

EVER.

I can think of a better game in the same genre

 

I'm not. kidding.

 

This game is just THAT GOOD.

[long gone 8,929]

I can think of a better game in the same genre

 

I'm not. kidding.

 

This game is just THAT GOOD.

In your subjective opinion.

 

Opinion =/= fact.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

In your subjective opinion.

 

Opinion =/= fact.

Unfair to compare them. Doom wasn't really in full 3d. (I mean like this

 

 

Compared to this

 

 

"full" 3d.)

 

But let's take to GAMERANKINGS:

 

Dark Forces 2 - 88.69

Doom - 86.67

 

[long gone 8,929]

Unfair to compare them. Doom wasn't really in full 3d. (I mean like this

 

 

Compared to this

 

 

"full" 3d.)

 

But let's take to GAMERANKINGS:

 

Dark Forces 2 - 88.69

Doom - 86.67

 

But I thought that graphics don't matter?

 

Also, keep in mind that Doom was released for MS-DOS in 1993, considering what they had back then Doom is a technical achievement in game design.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

But I thought that graphics don't matter?

 

Also, keep in mind that Doom was released for MS-DOS in 1993, considering what they had back then Doom is a technical achievement in game design.

It isn't graphics; it's freedom of view.

 

With DF2, you could look up, down, all over the place and the level designs could be really layered, making it a much different game (in terms of level design)

 

Time does not matter; I expect the same of a game in 1994 as I do in 2014. (My top 5 games are all 2002 or older.)

 

But if their idea was too awesome for systems to handle, then they release a sequel that CAN. And we get to see the game as it was meant to be.

 

And in terms of comparison to dark forces 2, a direct competitior (in terms of gameplay similarites) has never really been released. We got Doom 3, which was kinda like Dead Space 0.

 

If we were to talk about Quake, however, that's a whole other story...

[long gone 8,929]

It isn't graphics; it's freedom of view.

 

With DF2, you could look up, down, all over the place and the level designs could be really layered, making it a much different game (in terms of level design)

 

Time does not matter; I expect the same of a game in 1994 as I do in 2014. (My top 5 games are all 2002 or older.)

 

But if their idea was too awesome for systems to handle, then they release a sequel that CAN. And we get to see the game as it was meant to be.

 

And in terms of comparison to dark forces 2, a direct competitior (in terms of gameplay similarites) has never really been released. We got Doom 3, which was kinda like Dead Space 0.

 

If we were to talk about Quake, however, that's a whole other story...

Games in the early 1990s did not have access to the same technologies as they do today. MS-DOS wasn't even designed for use with a mouse, it was designed for use with a keyboard and mouse APIs were very limited. Mouse look (or the lack of) aside, Doom had an amazing lighting engine for the time, large, complex levels with many branching paths, height differences in rooms (as opposed to 1992's Wolfenstein 3D, where all rooms were the same height), non-perpendicular walls, full texture mapping and pioneered in using darkness and ambient sounds to build suspense in the player. For 1993, that's pretty impressive.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

Games in the early 1990s did not have access to the same technologies as they do today. MS-DOS wasn't even designed for use with a mouse, it was designed for use with a keyboard and mouse APIs were very limited. Mouse look (or the lack of) aside, Doom had an amazing lighting engine for the time, large, complex levels with many branching paths, height differences in rooms (as opposed to 1992's Wolfenstein 3D, where all rooms were the same height), non-perpendicular walls, full texture mapping and pioneered in using darkness and ambient sounds to build suspense in the player. For 1993, that's pretty impressive.

And what I'm saying that is "For yearblank" doesn't matter. If it wasn't able to offer a sufficient gaming experience because the hardware was not sufficient, they should have waited.

[long gone 8,929]

And what I'm saying that is "For yearblank" doesn't matter. If it wasn't able to offer a sufficient gaming experience because the hardware was not sufficient, they should have waited.

So you're saying that every game from 2001 and below should have never been released and they shoulda just waited until better hardware and more APIs were available? Doesn't work that way, sorry.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

And what I'm saying that is "For yearblank" doesn't matter. If it wasn't able to offer a sufficient gaming experience because the hardware was not sufficient, they should have waited.

 

It's alright if you enjoy Dark Forces 2 more than Doom, but let's not fool ourselves regardless if Dark Forces 2 received a higher score, Doom is considered a far more influential game then Dark Forces 2, heck Doom is often considered the game that put FPS genre on the map in video gaming which had only gotten bigger as more influential games like COD, BF, Halo, Metroid Prime, and the like showed up.

 

Right now, if you ask most people, they would prefer Doom as Doom is considered one of the greatest video games of all time for very good reasons. Dark Forces 2 is a good game, but not on the same level as Doom in legacy.

 

 

Also, some guys like James Cameron may get away with waiting until better tech shows up but he's in the much older movie business so they can easily wait for him. Not for video games especially when Doom came out when the video gaming industry was still trying to walk figuratively speaking for how young the business was then, it needed pioneering games like Doom and the like to help push it to greater prominence. Thus if Doom hadn't shown up, something else will to take it's place.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Nuke87654

[A Black Circle 1,586]

@Daring

No. If they could HANDLE it, then yes, but if their concept was too much, they should have waited (for release. The smart thing to do would be to develop this game and release it WITH the new hardware so people are like YEAH LETS GET THIS THING BECAUSE THIS GAME)

 

@Duke Nuke87654

A game's importance in history has no standing with me in terms of how much I like it. If Doom was just too limited, then I'm not going to like it. When the formula gets perfected is when I take attention. The first Dark Forces WAS a Doom ripoff. I think Doom is better, but if DF1 had made enough improvements to be better than Doom, despite ripping it off, so be it. I'll like the game more.

[long gone 8,929]

Please stop trying to present your opinion as fact, it comes off as cringeworthy.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

@Daring

No. If they could HANDLE it, then yes, but if their concept was too much, they should have waited (for release. The smart thing to do would be to develop this game and release it WITH the new hardware so people are like YEAH LETS GET THIS THING BECAUSE THIS GAME)

 

@Duke Nuke87654

A game's importance in history has no standing with me in terms of how much I like it. If Doom was just too limited, then I'm not going to like it. When the formula gets perfected is when I take attention. The first Dark Forces WAS a Doom ripoff. I think Doom is better, but if DF1 had made enough improvements to be better than Doom, despite ripping it off, so be it. I'll like the game more.

 

You have to take into account when something was made, Doom is pretty crude and simplistic now but it was as ground-breaking upon release in 1993 as Modern Warfare was to the last couple generations of gaming. 

 

It's also 21 year old game that still has a active fandom, prolific modding community(in fact, it might as well be the grand-father of serious game-modding) and a modern source-port that polishes it quite a bit. 

 

 

On topic, some screenshots of my rig's performance and temps(there's a second-fan that doesn't show even though it's running because it's not plugged into the board due to not reaching, I need an extension of some kind for it)