Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 Hating Derpy is like hating a special needs kid you don't know but a lot of people seem to like. You don't know anything about them except they are special needs and a lot of people like them. That is how Derpy is. We know she is a mailmare, she's clumsy, she has some disorder that causes her eyes to go in different directions, and she likes muffins. We don't know if she's obsessed with muffins, though. We don't know much about her. So how is that any different? Wooooowwwww, your first accusation is derogatory as all Hell and I won't deign to acknowledge it. As for the rest of the post, you yourself admitted you liked her because of fandom stuff, why can't I hate her for fandom stuff Why no, who could ever hate such a delightfully chaotic mare? Pinkie Pie is more chaotic, though Derpy has done her fairshare "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visual Spectrum 1,932 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Wooooowwwww, your first accusation is derogatory as all Hell and I won't deign to acknowledge it. As for the rest of the post, you yourself admitted you liked her because of fandom stuff, why can't I hate her for fandom stuff First, that is exactly what it is unless you hate all background ponies. Second, I do not like her because of fandom stuff. I I even said I would still love her without the song. If you think it's because of the clumsiness, she is clumsy in canon. It's not a fanon thing. Applejack Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 First, that is exactly what it is unless you hate all background ponies. Not all, just the ones that are overrated as Hell. Thanks for the accusation of me hating disabled people, that's very kind Second, I do not like her because of fandom stuff. I I even said I would still love her without the song. If you think it's because of the clumsiness, she is clumsy in canon. It's not a fanon thing. The clumsiness came about later, it was just derp eyes at first, the clumsiness came in response to the derp eyes "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visual Spectrum 1,932 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Not all, just the ones that are overrated as Hell. Thanks for the accusation of me hating disabled people, that's very kind The clumsiness came about later, it was just derp eyes at first, the clumsiness came in response to the derp eyes I get it! You hate a character that people love! Loving a character makes deserve to be hated. I'm sure a lot of people love you, so I hate you! Applejack Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 I should really add a disclaimer to this thread so no one gets butthurt about it "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visual Spectrum 1,932 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 You hate a character solely because a lot of people like her. That is a stupid reason to hate a character. I hope you hate Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash, too. I think Pinkie Pie also has a lot of fans, so hate her, too. Same with Vinyl Scratch. However, you probably hate those characters and only like characters like Applejack, Rarity, Noir, and other "underrated" characters because a big fanbase is a great reason to hate a character according to you. Applejack Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpitomeOfTruth 243 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Why is everyone so hellbent on the assumption that Derpy is special needs. Not only has it never been officially stated, but cocked eyes and clumsiness is a common trope in cartoons to represent a character that isn't too smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 @, THE ANGST IS REAL! IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE HASBRO BRINGS IN PERSECUTED ZEBRAS AND RACIST PONIES SPITTING OUT SLURS! @@Visual Spectrum, The difference is that they have a lot of haters as well, as well as fans who aren't foaming at the mouth fanboys. Derpy's fans are mostly the rabid kind of fanboy and her haters are slammed, hard "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniles2004 3 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Of course I don't hate her! She's awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox 870 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Hate? hell no! . She's not my favorite, but she's damn cute. Who you jiving with that cosmik debris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visual Spectrum 1,932 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Special Needs =/= stupid. That is unless I'm stupid. I guess I am stupid. Applejack Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractured 2,684 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 @, THE ANGST IS REAL! IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE HASBRO BRINGS IN PERSECUTED ZEBRAS AND RACIST PONIES SPITTING OUT SLURS! @@Visual Spectrum, The difference is that they have a lot of haters as well, as well as fans who aren't foaming at the mouth fanboys. Derpy's fans are mostly the rabid kind of fanboy and her haters are slammed, hard I'm under the impression there shouldn't really be a need to "openly" hate any pony. If you're somewhere where the topic is relevant, and people happen to like that pony, then it's probably going to end up as a "stop liking what I don't like" scenario, regardless of how you say it. It's not really an idea you can change, since you can't prove an opinion wrong...the best you're going to get is a lot of people angry at you. Produced by the phenomenal J.R. DT Fanclub here:https://mlpforums.com/topic/93212-diamond-tiara-fan-club/page-6 OC Fantasy: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/fantasy-r7486 OC Alice: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/alice-r8163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 I'm under the impression there shouldn't really be a need to "openly" hate any pony. If you're somewhere where the topic is relevant, and people happen to like that pony, then it's probably going to end up as a "stop liking what I don't like" scenario, regardless of how you say it. It's not really an idea you can change, since you can't prove an opinion wrong...the best you're going to get is a lot of people angry at you. Hate perhaps is wrong. I dislike her strongly. And I have no issue with people throwing words at me Special Needs =/= stupid. That is unless I'm stupid. I guess I am stupid. Her only appearances consist of doing stupid things. Even discounting clumsiness, you've got her rolling back and falling with "Go Applejack!" People with special needs aren't necessarily stupid, but Derpy most certainly is "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visual Spectrum 1,932 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Her only appearances consist of doing stupid things. Even discounting clumsiness, you've got her rolling back and falling with "Go Applejack!" People with special needs aren't necessarily stupid, but Derpy most certainly is She could be a genius for all we know. Pinkie Pie is a genius according to Twilight, and she may seem to be stupid be at times. (Especially in Season 4.) Applejack Fan Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,447 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 (edited) I can't ignore it when it's practically 80% of the fandom going into an ape like rage over Derpy getting censored. And why shouldn't they have been upset? By completely changing her appearance, they do several things. Derpy's character is out of character. She went from a mare with a clumsy, adorable, childlike innocence to someone who was sarcastic. Dash's lines become much more gentle. This makes her actions truly patronizing because Derpy is suddenly not treated as an equal, but someone with below intelligence (when in fact, she's not an idiot, no matter how much you believe otherwise). Hasbro sent huge implications that people who like Derpy have no meaning being represented in any way, shape, or form. That people like Derpy don't truly exist. This form of censorship is factually offensive because it's demeaning of Derpy, her fans, and the fact that there are people like her out there who adore her. Also, it's incredibly ignorant of you to use the fandom as a reason to dislike her. In fact, it's one of the stupidest reasons to think of because you're scapegoating the fandom. By letting them influence you to dislike her, you're saying you don't genuinely enjoy any character in this show. Not Derpy. Not anyone. Sure, Derpy's censorship was irritating at first then I realized "Who the f*** cares, it's a damn cartoon about Technicolor talking horses." I hear this excuse all the time, and it never becomes any less dangerous. People become extremely attached to various characters for several reasons, one of which is how much they can really relate to them. Each of the Mane Six is very relatable in some way. Derpy is inherently relatable herself thanks to her innocent personality and sudden appearances. Characters are represented by their fans, and characters become impressionable. It's especially the case for children, as fictional characters become role models. By changing her appearance, you're telling these kids Derpy has no reason to exist and that liking her for who she is is a mirage. IIRC, there was a firsthand story of a brony who was handdrawing Derpy while riding in a train; a little girl saw it and was very hurt by Derpy's censorship. Therefore, he handed her the drawing. The fact that she's one of the most popular characters in the show, even moreso than most of the main characters, despite doing absolutely nothing, is also ridiculous To claim it's ridiculous for bronies to place her among the top characters is absolutely ridiculous. There are so many great reasons why Derpy is so well-loved (and deservedly so, despite what you and many of the people who brohoofed you think). @@Steel Accord already posted some reasons why here. Edited November 5, 2014 by Dark Qiviut 3 "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatekeeper Giggle 2,902 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 I don't hate her per say, but I don't really like her either. 1 My OCs: Dividend Yield, Stormgiggle | Ask Me questions! | My Counting Game Jeric, on 25 Sept 2014 - 6:09 PM, said: Any problem that you may experience on this site can be solved immediately if you simply throw Fluttershy into a wood chipper. You can trust me on this, because I'm an administrator. Would I lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 She could be a genius for all we know. Pinkie Pie is a genius according to Twilight, and she may seem to be stupid be at times. (Especially in Season 4.) When dd Twilight say Pinkie was a genius? Regardless, being a genius means nothing. Goku's a genius in fighting, but is dumb as dirt in anything else Derpy is jumping on a cloud repeatedly, causing it to shock her and calling down to RD if she's okay after falling down a hole with rubble "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 @@Dark Qiviut, Thank you for the mention. When dd Twilight say Pinkie was a genius? Regardless, being a genius means nothing. Goku's a genius in fighting, but is dumb as dirt in anything else Derpy is jumping on a cloud repeatedly, causing it to shock her and calling down to RD if she's okay after falling down a hole with rubble Twilight has said Pinkie Pie is a genius in Luna Eclipsed and again in Rainbow Rocks. Yes, you are right, there are areas of expertise. However, just because we don't see Derpy excelling at anything on screen doesn't mean those areas don't exist. 1 My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 Twilight has said Pinkie Pie is a genius in Luna Eclipsed and again in Rainbow Rocks. In Eclipsed, it was Pinkie making a matter of the fact statement. Genius being said there doesn't mean much. Twilight was overthinking things and Pinkie is down to Earth enough to get the point. Which makes her sensible "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpitomeOfTruth 243 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 (when in fact, she's not an idiot, no matter how much you believe otherwise). What makes you so sure of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye 399 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 TBH, she doesn't deserve all of the love she gets. She's a pointless background character, she's irrelevant to the story, she only had, like, 3 speaking lines, and she has a bunch of annoying cameos that are only there to please the fanbase. I seriously don't get why she is so popular. 1 gonna take you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Accord 6,660 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 In Eclipsed, it was Pinkie making a matter of the fact statement. Genius being said there doesn't mean much. Twilight was overthinking things and Pinkie is down to Earth enough to get the point. Which makes her sensible You simply asked when she said it, not if the context meant "specialized, expert knowledge." and I gave the times she said it. I would argue that Pinkie is actually quite intelligent and not just in being "down to earth." (Which really isn't something I would describe Pinkie as to begin with.) But that's another thread. My ponysona: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/steel-accord-r1970 My AMA thread: http://mlpforums.com/topic/76698-as-steel-me-andor-oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 November 5, 2014 Author Share November 5, 2014 You simply asked when she said it, not if the context meant "specialized, expert knowledge." and I gave the times she said it. I would argue that Pinkie is actually quite intelligent and not just in being "down to earth." (Which really isn't something I would describe Pinkie as to begin with.) But that's another thread. Maybe so. But there's nothing saying Derpy is a genius either. There's nothing either way. However, she has shown dumbness for her screen time in the Last Roundup. As for Pinkie being down to earth, I should be saying she doesn't over think things "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,783 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 To claim it's ridiculous for bronies to place her among the top characters is absolutely ridiculous. There are so many great reasons why Derpy is so well-loved (and deservedly so, despite what you and many of the people who brohoofed you think). @@Steel Accord already posted some reasons why here. She does absolutely nothing other than stand there and have derped eyes. Pretty much everything we know about her (and what most probably like about her) was the result of the fandom, and believe it or not, not everyone has to follow/like what the fandom establishes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMinori 4,145 November 5, 2014 Share November 5, 2014 Her only appearances consist of doing stupid things. Even discounting clumsiness, you've got her rolling back and falling with "Go Applejack!" no they don't. In most of her on screen appearances, she's seen standing in a crowd, not being "stupid" as you put it. In more of her scenes, she's seen just flying past the screen, quickly, and not being "stupid". In hearth's warming eve, she' poked her head out from behind the curtain and waves to the audience- again, not being "stupid", in the very first episode, she's not doing anything 'stupid', nor is she 'stupid' in the Running of the Leaves, Canterlot Wedding, Rainbow Falls, Pinkie Pride, Magical Mystery Cure, Hirricane Fluttershy, Twilight;s Kingdom, or Applebuck season you're GREATLY exxagerating Under the Jellicle Moon- a site with cuteness, cat boys, and comic strips / Star Dreams Fanclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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